Paul Pogba (117 Viewers)
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We shouldn't negotiate in the first place, considering he has 3 years on his contract. Next summer if he doesn't renew. Even if he does leave there's no way the club would activate Higuain's release clause and I'd fully support that. People are deluding themselves if they believe Juve would pay 94m for 28-29 yo.
There is so much BS from the media etc. Every day they say - done deal. Every reputable contact has said no deal, no negotiations etc. Sure they may be bluffing but this is how I think its happening in reality:
1) Pogba is happy at Juventus but he would be "open" to a move to United if Juventus accept the right offer.
2) Marotta won't accept the offer unless he feels he can improve the overall squad with the money and profits we generate from selling Pogba.
So for instance, perhaps Marotta doesn't want to pay Higuain's buy out clause in the event of a Pogba sale. But if ADL finally concedes and accepts a player + cash deal, Marotta may take the United offer more seriously.
Who knows. My guess is that Marotta won't do the deal with United unless he knows where to deploy the cash. You don't want to be in a situation where you receive 120m and then go out and start negotiations as the selling clubs will milk you. You don't want to take that risk.
Some may argue that we have already spent much of the Pogba money on Pjanic, Pjaca and wages for Benatia and Alves. But based on my calculations, so far once you consider profits from sales on Morata, wages and amortization saved etc - we are neutral in terms of expenses after the recent known transactions.
I would not be surprised if Pogba stays in the end.
The BOTTOM LINE here is: WE are holding all the cards here. I really don't think it would take much convincing at all for Pogba to stay. We may increase his wages (not to the same level as ManU), but enough to convince him to stay at least one more year.
1) Pogba is happy at Juventus but he would be "open" to a move to United if Juventus accept the right offer.
2) Marotta won't accept the offer unless he feels he can improve the overall squad with the money and profits we generate from selling Pogba.
So for instance, perhaps Marotta doesn't want to pay Higuain's buy out clause in the event of a Pogba sale. But if ADL finally concedes and accepts a player + cash deal, Marotta may take the United offer more seriously.
Who knows. My guess is that Marotta won't do the deal with United unless he knows where to deploy the cash. You don't want to be in a situation where you receive 120m and then go out and start negotiations as the selling clubs will milk you. You don't want to take that risk.
Some may argue that we have already spent much of the Pogba money on Pjanic, Pjaca and wages for Benatia and Alves. But based on my calculations, so far once you consider profits from sales on Morata, wages and amortization saved etc - we are neutral in terms of expenses after the recent known transactions.
I would not be surprised if Pogba stays in the end.
The BOTTOM LINE here is: WE are holding all the cards here. I really don't think it would take much convincing at all for Pogba to stay. We may increase his wages (not to the same level as ManU), but enough to convince him to stay at least one more year.
We shouldn't even consider selling in the first place. Selling Pogba to get Higuain(for 95m) is retarded.
If we sell Pogba we should reinvest it in Verratti. Now that would be a proper replacement that would most probably commit to our project. If PSG don't want to sell, Pogba stays one more year. Next year we can try again. We have to operate like a big club and it means we can't sell a player whenever one asks to go. We can't afford to rebuild the team every year, it's too risky.
I hope Pogba is not pushing for the move. If he does though, that's simply retarded. MU aren't even a team right now, they have no CL. Sure money talks but sporting wise the move doesn't make sense.
If we sell Pogba we should reinvest it in Verratti. Now that would be a proper replacement that would most probably commit to our project. If PSG don't want to sell, Pogba stays one more year. Next year we can try again. We have to operate like a big club and it means we can't sell a player whenever one asks to go. We can't afford to rebuild the team every year, it's too risky.
I hope Pogba is not pushing for the move. If he does though, that's simply retarded. MU aren't even a team right now, they have no CL. Sure money talks but sporting wise the move doesn't make sense.
I am 90% sure Pogba is not PUSHING for a move. His agent may try but at the end, Pogba makes the call on that. Its not like he hates being here! He has a great relationship with the coach, team mates and the club generally. He has seen the team improve around him. It wouldn't take a lot of convincing. He is 23, plenty of time to make that big money move.
OFC WE SHOULD NOT SELL!! that Raiola can do nothing about it! he has 3 years left not one!
As i wrote since no go he'll leave next summer! Those united rats can rant as much as they want but we own the player.
And unless he comes and publicly says that he want to go we will not sell!
Plus our target Andrè Gomes is gone so where would we find the CM we need?
With Marchisio injured for months
Khedira usually being fit for half of the games
We'll be left with Pjanic only! and that can't be done!
We wont lose anything selling next year. I feel juventus should say this to Pogba and to United.
We can convince the player with the plan! If we keep Paul and finally get a good ST we can have a go at the current champions league. Plus United is out of it!
I believe he'll stay! So far the only news about him at United are leaked from those at United.
And we shoudln't deal with Raiola anymore even now. We should phone the player and nothing else
As i wrote since no go he'll leave next summer! Those united rats can rant as much as they want but we own the player.
And unless he comes and publicly says that he want to go we will not sell!
Plus our target Andrè Gomes is gone so where would we find the CM we need?
With Marchisio injured for months
Khedira usually being fit for half of the games
We'll be left with Pjanic only! and that can't be done!
We wont lose anything selling next year. I feel juventus should say this to Pogba and to United.
We can convince the player with the plan! If we keep Paul and finally get a good ST we can have a go at the current champions league. Plus United is out of it!
I believe he'll stay! So far the only news about him at United are leaked from those at United.
And we shoudln't deal with Raiola anymore even now. We should phone the player and nothing else
we'll get some answers, finally.
Seriously. If United wants Pogba for 120 million excluding bonuses etc. That would be an insane amount. Rumors has it that there seems the be some sort of deal between united and juve. They have my blessing, Pogba is important, but 120 million is insanity and definitely worth it. The whole football market will be blown up after this transfer because there will we different boundaries. Is it good for football in general? Certainly not. Does it project the stupidity of the EPL nowadays? Yes. And does Juve benefit from it? Hell yeah.
Lets be honest. Pogba is no Messi and Juve is not dependent on Pogba. There is definetely a post pogba juve whereas Messi is/was way more important for the game of Barca. Pogba, how big a talent he is, is replaceable.
Lets be honest. Pogba is no Messi and Juve is not dependent on Pogba. There is definetely a post pogba juve whereas Messi is/was way more important for the game of Barca. Pogba, how big a talent he is, is replaceable.