Paul Pogba (155 Viewers)

[dolph]

He has an advantage for two reasons. First is because he is a striker with flair and that gives him an advantage over midfielders. Second is because he plays for a club that gets much more viewership than we do. He thus gets wider recognition for his performances and tricks because more people watch him doing it than the people who watch Pogba.

Our disadvantage for being in Serie A is having less viewership. Pogba gets seen globally with France and during our CL runs. Neymar gets seen when playing in La liga, when playing in the CL (where barca get more attention than us) and when playing for Brazil (who get more attention than France).

Sponsors prefer to see their players in the EPL for example than in Serie A because that player (and thus their brand) gets more exposure by virtue of being in a much more followed league. You might get more exposure as a player in say Westham than in Roma, Napoli or Inter which is really sad. I'd actually be very interested to see the viewership stats for say Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea matches compared to Juve matches. It will be very sad if more people watch Fabregas and Coutinho than those who watch Pogba playing for Juve (in terms of league matches). Serie A must get their act together before its too late.

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[Vlad]

Neymar is popular because of Brazil, not Barca. Barca gained popularity because of Brazilian players like Ronaldinho and Neymar.

Ronaldinho definitely made them great and started all this crazyness, Messi followed and uplifted them even more. But Neymar already arrived when they were among the most popular teams, so can't see that he's done the same as Ronaldinho for instance, or even Messi. He's definitely popular footballer, but he became even more once he joined them, whereas in Ronaldinho's case, before he arrived they were irrelevant, relatively.

 

[zizinho]

yep, Ronaldinho was what caused Barca to catch up as a top club. before that they were what Milan/inter are now

 

[Valerio.]

Ronaldinho definitely made them great and started all this crazyness, Messi followed and uplifted them even more. But Neymar already arrived when they were among the most popular teams, so can't see that he's done the same as Ronaldinho for instance, or even Messi. He's definitely popular footballer, but he became even more once he joined them, whereas in Ronaldinho's case, before he arrived they were irrelevant, relatively.

Ronaldo before Dinho

 

[Vlad]

Ronaldo before Dinho

Spent only one season there and they didn't play in the CL. Didn't even win Primera that season, lost to Real iirc. Before Ronaldinho they were always lagging behind Real.

They won 1 friggin' CL before Ronaldinho ffs. They were nowhere near to what they represent today.

 

[Xperd]

Ronaldo before Dinho

Romario before Ronaldo

 

[Hydde]

Ronaldo before Dinho

No, it was Ronaldinho who catapulted Barcelona. Before him, they were madrid bitches and just a good team in the CL.
And after Messi appeared, things escalated even more.

 

[Hist]

Neymar is popular because of Brazil, not Barca. Barca gained popularity because of Brazilian players like Ronaldinho and Neymar.

Ronaldinho not Neymar. Ronaldinho made people follow Barca on mass. Everyone wanted to see what he would do next because of how entertaining he was. That entertainment also translated in terms of team performances and that built up their brand. Neymar is a beneficiary of the Barca brand that Ronaldinho and then Messi built. He is a top player no doubt and will probably carry the mantle after Messi but I think that Neymar would not have had all this recognition had he played in pre-dinho barca. He wouldn't have been even affordable let alone him, Messi and Suarez at once.

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[Lemon318]

What I really hate about his character is what makes him so valuable to us; his "swag". Personality like his will sell much more shirts than someone like Buffon's in this generation. He is incredibly marketable and he made people notice Juventus. We need to keep him.

 

[Hist]

didnt Pogba sell more shirts this season than Neymar?

I have no idea. But that would be a happy surprise. Neymar faces competition from Messi, Suarez and Iniesta though when it comes to Barca fans deciding whose shirt to buy and I have a hunch the great majority of them opt for Messi and iniesta as club legends before they consider printing Neymar or Suarez on the shirt.

Also shirt sales does not necessarily mean higher exposure (views). More people probably watch barca than Juve but I wouldnt expect Alba or mascherano to sell more shirts than Pogba. I really think that if Pogba does well in the CL with us in the next couple of years and wins it, he can be our ronaldinho and give us a great boost in following. We just need atleast one top level competitor to keep the league interesting.

Preferably AC Milan becomes our competitor, since they have the biggest global brand in Italy. Doesn't seem like it will happen soon though. We need them to finish top 2 and make good CL runs (not Roma or Napoli style) for a couple of years.

 

[zizinho]

I have no idea. But that would be a happy surprise. Neymar faces competition from Messi, Suarez and Iniesta though when it comes to Barca fans deciding whose shirt to buy and I have a hunch the great majority of them opt for Messi and iniesta as club legends before they consider printing Neymar or Suarez on the shirt.

Also shirt sales does not necessarily mean higher exposure (views). More people probably watch barca than Juve but I wouldnt expect Alba or mascherano to sell more shirts than Pogba. I really think that if Pogba does well in the CL with us in the next couple of years and wins it, he can be our ronaldinho and give us a great boost in following. We just need atleast one top level competitor to keep the league interesting.

Preferably AC Milan becomes our competitor, since they have the biggest global brand in Italy. Doesn't seem like it will happen soon though. We need them to finish top 2 and make good CL runs (not Roma or Napoli style) for a couple of years.

im not sure either. i think someone posted top 10 players sold jerseys somewhere on this forum and Pogba was pretty high up. cant remember where though


agree about Milan. they are the biggest brand apart from us and the most suited to rival us. if they can recover and make the league more like La Liga where 2-3 of the biggest clubs fight for the title until last matchday Serie A would get much better TV deals and more viewers worldwide

 

[Alex-444]

 

[zizinho]

such a superstar

 

[napoleonic]

Serie A must get their act together before its too late.

People need to stop hoping for that because it's not gonna happen anytime soon; it's already too late by 5 years, and it's not pure football related problem but goes deep into ideology, socio-politics and cultural... So don't hold your breath.

 

[Hydde]

People need to stop hoping for that because it's not gonna happen anytime soon; it's already too late by 5 years, and it's not pure football related problem but goes deep into ideology, socio-politics and cultural... So don't hold your breath.

yeh...at the very least...and with th current state of the teams and the league... IF they do things right from now on (and that a big if)....maybe serie a will be worthy in a minimum of 6 or 7 years....

serie a will have to do A LOT to catch up to juventusl

 

[Wings]

Nice freekick, hit the post. France completely dominating Scotland.

 

[Wings]

What an assist that would have been.

 

[Signora Omicidi]

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Guy is a Titan! Not for sale...

Redcafe is fapping over this clip.

They are utterly gobsmacked at how great this guy is.

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/paul-pogba.417567/page-17#post-19286701

We should swallow our pride and get him if we can.

Unbelievable video. Anyone who has any doubts about the guys talent needs to watch this.

I watched all 28 minutes of it. What a footballer. Can't believe we couldn't keep him.

We should go break the records on him. Hope the club doesn't let ego cloud their judgement- he is clearly going to be the best midfielder in the world, if not there already.
Those 80-100 million will fetch us titles again.

Anybody doubting Pogbas talent regardless of the price when we have had Fellaini playing there half the season is an idiot. He has always been an amazing talent from a kid that we pinched from Le Havre, to the youth player who was frustrated by lack of game time when Im sure he would have een getting that the following season with us but left free, to the already world class player at Juventus that can still get better. For me his talent has never been in question, you could question his attitude and loyalty....but in all honesty he hasnt really made any bad moves when you look at it from his point of view, league titles, champions league finals....would he have got that here?

The urge to go full muppet about this is just too strong I am caught up in it now even though I know it wont happen

Scary combination of physical gifts and exceptional technique, playing on pure instinct. Along with Griezmann, Pogba is a player that would make me go full-muppet this summer.

That's just ridiculous... .

Mad ting.

What on Earth were we doing to let this guy go... You would struggle to put together a compilation as good as that that for all of our players combined this season.

Just watched that video. How on earth have we done this to ourselves??? It is only right that we break the British transfer record.

The best midfielder around.

And we fecking had him!

Just to rub it in: We decided to play rafael and park in central midfield instead of him when we were ravaged with injuries in that area.

To think, a lot of posters on here didn't want to give him a chance, instead hoping that we'd sign Wesley Sneijder. He wasn't ready, they claimed, as he'd Only featured in the youth teams.

He then went straight into the Juve first team and the rest is history. Where's Sneijder these days?

If we sign him I promise not to complain about Rooney all season

He'd be worth whatever ridiculous fee it would cost to get him. Even if it's £100m. We'd recoup most if not all of it in a few years time or he'd be a world class midfielder for us for a decade. Either way it's good business in the long run.

Holy fecking wow. Jesus Christ what a player he has turned out to be. This was Fergie's biggest mistake - not Becks, not RVN, not Stam and not Keane but Pogba.

He is disgustingly good. Such ability. If things went ideally we could've had a Morrison-Pogba midfield.

You need to look back at the posts when he left where I was saying he was one of the biggest prospects in world football and how we would regret it every single day letting him go.I was told that "Fergie knows best" and "no player should be holding the club to ransom"

All he wanted to do was play football and develop, and we let him slip through our fingers through shortsighted bloody minded management.
And here we are today where people are thinking that paying £60 million and what ever wages he wants to bring him back is an acceptable outcome.

It's completely absurd.

You often see these type of youtube videos of players with them pulling off little drags, flicks, and other skills etc but its showboaty and a lot of the time the clip ends with them ballooning a shot into row z or getting tackled by trying one trick too many.

Watching this, the thing that strikes me the most is that he pulls off these pieces of skill and then follows it with the perfect pass, he's immensely productive.

Those tears

 

[zizinho]

 

[Zacheryah]

Best part is he wouldnt even consider leaving juve for them, no matter how much cash they trow at it