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[Zacheryah]

Definitely. The Russian forces are not what media tries to make them. They are only depending on committing tragedies against civilians to evacuate lands in order to control them. This way of attack can not be used in a country like Turkey.

Russia is using expendable old aircraft in syria. If they would bring out some of their new toys, it would fly circles around whatever turkey has and bomb the shit out of it.


Seriously, if America and china stays out of it, russia could go against the entire world and win. What the fuck are you talking about

 

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[Mohad]

This is nonsense, the regime never promoted stability in the region, not in Lebanon, Palestine or Iraq. We can go into details if you wish.

I would understand if you had to pick between ISIS or Assad regime but to say the regime brings stability is pure nonsense and bull$#@! and at the end of the day they are both bloody vampires and like I said before one executes silently and off the Camera whereas the other is on drugs and does it on set.





Who are you to decide what they need? Dictators were brought by the West Agenda's at the first place. And basically what you are saying you have no problem if citizens are murdered and have no rights so long it brings political tension down? Are you aware that with dictators or not it's still easy to produce individual terrorists and chaos? Unless you are North Korea and you serve no use for the foreign Agenda's so far.

 

[Eddy]

Russians ain't Armenians bro.

Hey! We have a history of surviving. :depressed

 

[JuveJay]

Yes and if the Brits shot down a Russian plane that wasn't over British airspace. Russia could view it as an act of war.

But the difference here is that it was. Also Britain isn't in the middle of regional conflict, if it was there is every chance those bombers could be fired on instead.

What happens is usually pretty funny, the Russian and British pilots wave to each other and hold up photos of girlies.

 

[DAiDEViL]

But the difference here is that it was. Also Britain isn't in the middle of regional conflict, if it was there is every chance those bombers could be fired on instead.

What happens is usually pretty funny, the Russian and British pilots wave to each other and hold up photos of girlies.

says who?

 

[kao_ray]

This is nonsense, the regime never promoted stability in the region, not in Lebanon, Palestine or Iraq. We can go into details if you wish.

I would understand if you had to pick between ISIS or Assad regime but to say the regime brings stability is pure nonsense and bull$#@! and at the end of the day they are both bloody vampires and like I said before one executes silently and off the Camera whereas the other is on drugs and does it on set.





Who are you to decide what they need? Dictators were brought by the West Agenda's at the first place. And basically what you are saying you have no problem if citizens are murdered and have no rights so long it brings political tension down? Are you aware that with dictators or not it's still easy to produce individual terrorists and chaos? Unless you are North Korea and you serve no use for the foreign Agenda's so far.

What do you think is the solution?

 

[JuveJay]

says who?

Assuming the Turkish flight data was correct. Although naturally the Russian side shows something else.

It's different for us as an island as our air space can be many miles away from the land, this is a land border. And in some cases certain countries don't recognise the zones set out by a particular country. It's best not to fly close at all.

 

[zebrettino]

The Arabic version of Russia today site just announced that French warplanes have targeted an elementary school at Mosul, north of Iraq killing 28 students, but you will not hear about these news a lot in the Western media.
https://arabic.rt.com/news/801590-الموصل-مقتل-28-تلميذا-بقصف-فرنسي-على-مدرسة/

Article is a hoax, the school doesn't exist.

http://www.ara.shafaaq.com/41105 (also in Arabic)

RT quotes the German Press Agency (DPA) which hasn't released anything about civilians being bombed... try again. It is being reported that France hit ISIS targets near Mosul, though.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...s-destroy-an-ISIS-command-center-in-Iraq.html

 

[ReBeL]

Article is a hoax, the school doesn't exist.

http://www.ara.shafaaq.com/41105 (also in Arabic)

RT quotes the German Press Agency (DPA) which hasn't released anything about civilians being bombed... try again. It is being reported that France hit ISIS targets near Mosul, though.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...s-destroy-an-ISIS-command-center-in-Iraq.html

You are making it as if I wrote that article for Russia Today
If that was not correct news, it is even worse. They are spreading some wrong news about their allies

 

[zebrettino]

You are making it as if I wrote that article for Russia Today
If that was not correct news, it is even worse. They are spreading some wrong news about their allies

I think Putin is on his own side in the end, tbh. France and the rest of NATO are still imposing sanctions against Russia over Crimea, don't forget.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

 

[Nzoric]

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/25/middleeast/syria-turkey-russia-warplane-shot-down/

Surprise.

Shiet

Fallout 5 coming out soon.

 

[Zacheryah]

S-400 ????

NO WAY ? S-400 triumph ????

Holy crap...

The S-400 triump is the best anti aircraft defence in the world. This is the only operational system that can take out any stealthplane in a 250km radius.


Russia doesnt sell those (like the US doesnt sell F-22's), they only sell the much inferior S-300(like the US only sells the much inferior F-35). S-300 is comparable to the american "Patroit" system.


Their only deployment is at strategical area's around Moscow. They have never had any other task.




Putin basically can shoot down F-22's, B-2's, F117's if they come within radius. let alone that paltry turki airforce

 

[swag]

That was incredibly powerful and poignant.

 

[Nzoric]

S-400 ????

NO WAY ? S-400 triumph ????

Holy crap...

The S-400 triump is the best anti aircraft defence in the world. This is the only operational system that can take out any stealthplane in a 250km radius.


Russia doesnt sell those (like the US doesnt sell F-22's), they only sell the much inferior S-300(like the US only sells the much inferior F-35). S-300 is comparable to the american "Patroit" system.


Their only deployment is at strategical area's around Moscow. They have never had any other task.




Putin basically can shoot down F-22's, B-2's, F117's if they come within radius. let alone that paltry turki airforce

Theyre not selling them, just bringing them to Syria and installing them in a russian military complex. if I understood it correctly.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

That was incredibly powerful and poignant.

Indeed, almost shed a tear. It's moving, especially when you know Homme is a bit of the macho man getting into bar fights stereotype, wasn't even there and he's breaking down. Jesse is obviously still in shock.

 

[Zacheryah]

Theyre not selling them, just bringing them to Syria and installing them in a russian military complex. if I understood it correctly.

Yeah offcourse. It would be a massive scandal if they sold S-400's because then assad is pretty much impossible to hit by american airforce or cruise missles. Sure the US can trow much more stealth at them then they have missles, but the cost to deplete those missles would be catastrofic.


But the thing is, they have never left Russia, never planned. Russia's most advanced missle and guidance system are moved to a base in syria.

 

[Nzoric]

Yeah offcourse. It would be a massive scandal if they sold S-400's because then assad is pretty much impossible to hit by american airforce or cruise missles. Sure the US can trow much more stealth at them then they have missles, but the cost to deplete those missles would be catastrofic.


But the thing is, they have never left Russia, never planned. Russia's most advanced missle and guidance system are moved to a base in syria.

The turks shouldnt have shot the russian bomber down, plain and simple. we are all acting like russia is the same as they were right after the wall, when the nato bloc pushes too hard with their brinkmanship (georgia, ukraine and now turkey) we are all surprised that the ruskies lash out.

 

[Zacheryah]

The turks shouldnt have shot the russian bomber down, plain and simple. we are all acting like russia is the same as they were right after the wall, when the nato bloc pushes too hard with their brinkmanship (georgia, ukraine and now turkey) we are all surprised that the ruskies lash out.

 

[only-juve]

At least that regime promotes stability in the region and unlike so many of the rebels being backed by the west, is secular. It makes sense to side with Assad right now because without him Syria will turn into a permanent failed state power vacuum. The strategy of the U.S. and it's allies is practically non-existent. Just back "moderate rebels" who have been steadily radicalizing or defecting to ISIL all throughout the war. The U.S. led alliance have turfed Sadam and Gaddafi making failed states out of both of their countries. Now they want to do it to Syria. These countries aren't going to turn into genuine democracies. They, like Egypt need dictators for stability.

And the west would be perfectly happy for a brutal dictatorship to govern Syria, so long as it's submissive to their interests ala Saudi Arabia which is a terribly brutal feudal dictatorship as well. But because Assad has been a thorn in their side for a while, it's best to arm any Syrian opposition to him who seem moderate.

This is nonsense, the regime never promoted stability in the region, not in Lebanon, Palestine or Iraq. We can go into details if you wish.

I would understand if you had to pick between ISIS or Assad regime but to say the regime brings stability is pure nonsense and bull$#@! and at the end of the day they are both bloody vampires and like I said before one executes silently and off the Camera whereas the other is on drugs and does it on set.





Who are you to decide what they need? Dictators were brought by the West Agenda's at the first place. And basically what you are saying you have no problem if citizens are murdered and have no rights so long it brings political tension down? Are you aware that with dictators or not it's still easy to produce individual terrorists and chaos? Unless you are North Korea and you serve no use for the foreign Agenda's so far.

plus people saying that Saudi Arabia are funding these extremist and radicals either clueless or extremely naive.

The first countries that ever been hit by these terrorists in the Middle East (even before 9/11) are both Egypt and Saudi Arabia back in the 90's. So if they're funding these groups why would they target them ?

People tend to mix between some radical laws in Saudi Arabia (specially against women rights plus other sharia laws) and supporting these groups. Being an Iraqi and shia I'm the last one that should defend Saudi Arabia but reality these extremist hate the Saudi's government even more so than any other western country.