Paris attacks (11 Viewers)

[Martin]

Let me get this straight, so I don't misinterpret your post, you haven't read it and plead ignorance on the subject of said 2nd largest in world religion with that sentence. While in the same post on two different paragraphs you deem yourself knowledgeable enough to give it cult status, know enough to rate it's text in different levels to the religious text you grew up with, and finally can comfortably decide it's reasonable that the religion, excuse me, the cult, should be banned and it's places of worship closed down?

You sound so professorial lately. Are you taking a special pill?

 

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[Osman]

Yeah I told the dealer give me the opposite of what you giving @Fr3sh

 

[Martin]

good call

 

[Fr3sh]

Asshole

 

[Nenz]

We should treat advocates for Sharia how Iran and Saudi Arabia treat advocates for Secularism.

Within their own borders at least, western countries are better than that.

 

[Seven]

You need to know when to ease off as Fresh said, pretty much agreed with most if not all you said, but not when you relentlessly insist on stepping over the boundaries of civility needlessly. Even if Cam makes it harder with a bit of double speak like a politician lol.


But I mean come on Bro, this has been going on for days now

Well, I can be a tad harsh.

You are so boring

You don't understand me initially and that is your problem not mine.

Dude. No one misunderstood. You do this every time. I think it's great that you are willing to change your opinion, but it is ridiculous to say you were of this opinion all along. And you do it in every debate. Drives me fucking crazy.

 

[Seven]

@Seven I dare you try to discuss politics or societal issues in general with this dude. Stack up on Alvedons

Lol. No way, man. Dude's crazy. He's joking though right?

 

[Hust]

Well, I can be a tad harsh.

Dude. No one misunderstood. You do this every time. I think it's great that you are willing to change your opinion, but it is ridiculous to say you were of this opinion all along. And you do it in every debate. Drives me fucking crazy.

Don't confuse me with your imaginary brother.

 

[Post Ironic]

Putting political correctness aside, civil society needs to look at Islam and decide whether it even deserves the label of a religion. Given the number of hateful versus and insistence of converting all non-muslims to muslims and encouraging jihad and caliphates etc must put into question whether it is a religion or a cult. I suspect Islam is completely at odds with modern western secular democracies.

I have not read the quran so yes, I do plead ignorance here. However, I have come across numerous quotations from it and find them incredibly disturbing. the Old testament is no nursery rhyme either but I think they are on different levels. (FYI I grew up as a Catholic but now consider myself Agnostic)

If it attains cult status, then you can outlaw its teachings and close mosques.

Ever heard of Christian Evangelism, Missionaries, The Inquisition, The Crusades, etc. etc. etc.?

 

[Mohad]

Don't confuse me with your imaginary brother.

 

[Hust]

Ever heard of Christian Evangelism, Missionaries, The Inquisition, The Crusades, etc. etc. etc.?

Good point

 

[pitbull]

Ever heard of Christian Evangelism, Missionaries

Arent they the ones usually getting killed in the process while theyre trying to save pagans from eternal hell? On the other hand Muslims tend to blow infidels up. But the reaction to closing mosques would be awful, which is why I think that would be a bad idea.

 

[Osman]

Lol. No way, man. Dude's crazy. He's joking though right?

He's not.


He gets extra interesting when he tries to explains how he is a "racial realist". Google the term and notion why it would get interesting

 

[Catenaccio]

Ever heard of Christian Evangelism, Missionaries, The Inquisition, The Crusades, etc. etc. etc.?

Sure.

The point of my post was that governments and authorities have to look at each religion and see whether they are consistent with the principles of the constitution or harmful to society. Try to look at it from an objective view. I don't know if Islan should be classified as a cult but it should be looked at objectively.

If a British survey is anything to go by, if 38% if Muslims surveyed want the UK to adopt shariah law, then you have a huge problem. Shariah law has no place in western society.

 

[Seven]

He's not.


He gets extra interesting when he tries to explains how he is a "racial realist". Google the term and notion why it would get interesting

This racial realism thing is weird. I'm not sure what they mean. I read a time piece and a wiki article and I'm not getting it..

 

[Seven]

Don't confuse me with your imaginary brother.

Why are you so weak, man? Own your words. I'm really disappointed in you.

 

[Seven]

Did I ever tell you about my brother Allah?

 

[Mohad]

Did I ever tell you about my brother Allah?

The one who you never met? Yeah I heard about him.

 

[Osman]

This racial realism thing is weird. I'm not sure what they mean. I read a time piece and a wiki article and I'm not getting it..

Its pretty much a way to spread racist ideology in academically "sciency" terms. Pretty much just lipservice and better rhetorics to get home the same point. Double speak way to spread the "message" pretty much. In our old Uni we had a seminar around the subject, and what did you know, all the self-proclaimed racial realists were "former" skinheads in their youths and current academics who are far right extremists. All just a coincidence ofcourse.

 

[Ocelot]

You are so boring

You don't understand me initially and that is your problem not mine.

Come on, it would ahve been extremely hard to understand your original statements in any other way than how Seven did. You can say that those posts were poorly formulated and everything, and blame Seven for needlessingly making the thing personal, but if you look at what you wrote you have to admit that they can only really be understood in pretty much the way Seven did.

Putting political correctness aside, civil society needs to look at Islam and decide whether it even deserves the label of a religion. Given the number of hateful versus and insistence of converting all non-muslims to muslims and encouraging jihad and caliphates etc must put into question whether it is a religion or a cult. I suspect Islam is completely at odds with modern western secular democracies.

I have not read the quran so yes, I do plead ignorance here. However, I have come across numerous quotations from it and find them incredibly disturbing. the Old testament is no nursery rhyme either but I think they are on different levels. (FYI I grew up as a Catholic but now consider myself Agnostic)

If it attains cult status, then you can outlaw its teachings and close mosques.

I don't even know where to start here.