Paris 2024 Summer Olympics (14 Viewers)

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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I know this is going to be a he said/she said. But while I think gays have every right to dig back at Christianity for all the oppression and death they heaped upon them over the centuries, I honesty don't think that Christians were an intentional target of Jolly boy's derision.

Flamboyant gays love camp in all its forms, and that is how you camp. You send up cultural icons, you dress like famous people in famous scenes, you flirt with the scandalous. But the "scandal" is in the social taboo, not in rubbing it in the faces of some enemy.

If there's anything that show was guilty of, it was being clueless that exposing the world to the internals of a camp drag show isn't going to play to all audiences the same way. Some will think it's an intentional religious jab in the eye. I do believe that offense was not intended. And people who aren't familiar with drag camp might feel attacked, even if that's not at all what's going on.



Haa! Best Eiffel 65 reference all day
We differ on this one but that is OK and I respect your point of view.
I think it was intentional(trying to offend). They we're probably expecting backlash or they intended to receive it, but I also think you have a point in pointing out "the social taboo" angle.
 

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Al Birdie

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May 19, 2016
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First of all I'm not Christian .
Second I was not referring to you , though I think it's funny that you think I was .
Last was your comment supposed to offend me? - That's also funny if you think I was offended .
The day I'm going to be offended by someone I don't know personally , on the freaking internet is the day I log off permanently .
At least you find something funny :lol:
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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I feel bad for the athletes but after this, I cannot watch anything related to this now. They don’t want Christians, so I’m making aware to my Christians relatives, friends and colleagues that France think Last Supper was a freak show

I guess they may feel they are part of a revolution a la Charlemagne or Bonaparte but IMO they are just idiots
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Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Hey I know it's novel idea, but it would be nice you know when I click on the Paris Olympics thread, to be actually about the multitude of Paris Olympics sporting events going on? (I say this cuz only thing I seen is USA vs Serbia basketball)



Or is too much to ask for lol Been 5-6 pages already, how much longer can we milk this blue guy metaphorically saying to the right wing/Christian world:


 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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We differ on this one but that is OK and I respect your point of view.
I think it was intentional(trying to offend). They we're probably expecting backlash or they intended to receive it, but I also think you have a point in pointing out "the social taboo" angle.
Likewise. I'm only one person's opinion, so that doesn't mean I'm right. And I know there are flamers out there who love to stick it to the Christians. This one didn't trigger the threshold for me.

Not that I frequent drag shows on a regular basis. :shifty: But it was a throwback to the kind of camp I saw when I was first dragged into a dank dive bar in the Mission in San Francisco some three decades ago, not realizing they had a regular drag queen contest. This was years before a TV show like "Will & Grace" actually portrayed outed gays.

The DNA of that low-budget, closeted affair with solo performers was pretty much the same as this "gloooooriious" send-up with a multi-million budget and an international audience.

I saw some commentary objecting to the image of the chub messiah and the Olympics' image of athleticism. Which is ironic given how much McDonald's and Coca-Cola have spent billions in advertising for Olympic sponsorships over the decades.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Hey I know it's novel idea, but it would be nice you know when I click on the Paris Olympics thread, to be actually about the multitude of Paris Olympics sporting events going on? (I say this cuz only thing I seen is USA vs Serbia basketball)
Speaking of which: I actually like the Olympics a lot more than major international football tournaments. Entire thing feels more genuine too. Not because of the organization, but because of the athletes.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Yeah even it's majority of sports that don't interest me(I'm mainly a footie, basketball, Tennis guy). It's interesting to see in general, a total gathering of all sports and athletes competing at all levels.


Especially interesting seeing the track and field athletes compete, because generally don't see them for 4 years.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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Likewise. I'm only one person's opinion, so that doesn't mean I'm right. And I know there are flamers out there who love to stick it to the Christians. This one didn't trigger the threshold for me.

Not that I frequent drag shows on a regular basis. :shifty: But it was a throwback to the kind of camp I saw when I was first dragged into a dank dive bar in the Mission in San Francisco some three decades ago, not realizing they had a regular drag queen contest. This was years before a TV show like "Will & Grace" actually portrayed outed gays.

The DNA of that low-budget, closeted affair with solo performers was pretty much the same as this "gloooooriious" send-up with a multi-million budget and an international audience.



I saw some commentary objecting to the image of the chub messiah and the Olympics' image of athleticism. Which is ironic given how much McDonald's and Coca-Cola have spent billions in advertising for Olympic sponsorships over the decades.
Oh yeah I do always find it funny when a food or beverage company that's not associated with healthy living is sponsoring a major sporting event.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Yeah even it's majority of sports that don't interest me(I'm mainly a footie, basketball, Tennis guy). It's interesting to see in general, a total gathering of all sports and athletes competing at all levels.


Especially interesting seeing the track and field athletes compete, because generally don't see them for 4 years.
I'm pretty into track and field, several brothers and sisters actually compete.

I think it's a great sport to watch too. If you're really honest about it, the result in football is determined by moments that take about 4-5 seconds and happen three or four times a game. The other 89 minutes are basically irrelevant and even more infuriating you're looking at unavoidable time wasting by whoever's leading for the last 20 minutes. None of that in track and field. It's one great event after another.

I'm particularly looking forward to a lot of running numbers:

- the flat 400m M (Belgian Alexander Doom will probably just miss out on a medal, but he became European champion in Rome and looks in great form).
- the 4x400m M (Belgium has got a decent team, otherwise relay races don't really interest me as much)
- the 100m M (let's be fair: whoever is the reigning Olympic 100m champion is the alpha dog)
- the 200m M (I still think Bolt's record is untouchable for current athletes, but on the 200 Lyles might come really close)
- the 400m M hurdles (Warholm looks like he might be in trouble this time)
- anything involving Femke Bol

Apart from track and field I like watching gymnastics and swimming too, but I don't know anything about these sports and just watch them because they're such a big part of the Olympics.

I will say this though: I absolutely detest field hockey, even if Belgium are the reigning Olympic champions.
 

Badass J Elkann

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For me who has a big interest in hockey the Olympics is the pinnacle, nations prepare their cycles around the Olympics, not the world cup or European championships. It would be a crying shame for me at least to see team sport events reduced to a smaller scale, as Sporting associations would rather invest money in 1 athlete than invest heavily in a team sport for the same reward. Talks of a hockey 5s which is a different sport to the 11 a side format, bit like rugby 7s, only that Rugby do not perceive the Olympics as the sporting pinnacle of their sport.
 

maxi

Senior Member
Aug 31, 2006
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Where are the Christian lawyers suing all these renderings for copyright infringement if it is "theirs" and theirs alone?

What offense scale do Christians need to register for each of these daggers to the heart of their faith? This is legit pearl clutching.
Exposure is key. Not many people were aware of these other examples, including myself. Naturally, with something as grand as the Olympics, (literally the most watched spectacle on Earth) this imitation was always going to generate more outrage than those other instances you bring up.

But the issue lies not least with the time and place, but also with the fact that this distasteful display contradicts everything that the Olympics is meant to stand for. Its an event that it supposed to be a unifying force, something that brings everyone together. And yet they thought it'd be appropriate and befitting of Olympic principles to belittle a religion of which 2.8 billion people belong to. Such an occasion was chosen to do so because they know the extent of the visibility they would receive. They wanted to use this international platform to send a provocative message, and that's what they did. Now they pretend to be confused, as if that wasnt knowingly their intention all along.

Besides, rather than justifying this behavior with past behaviour, you should be asking yourself, "was it ever a respectable decision?"
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Exposure is key. Not many people were aware of these other examples, including myself. Naturally, with something as grand as the Olympics, (literally the most watched spectacle on Earth) this imitation was always going to generate more outrage than those other instances you bring up.

But the issue lies not least with the time and place, but also with the fact that this distasteful display contradicts everything that the Olympics is meant to stand for. Its an event that it supposed to be a unifying force, something that brings everyone together. And yet they thought it'd be appropriate and befitting of Olympic principles to belittle a religion of which 2.8 billion people belong to. Such an occasion was chosen to do so because they know the extent of the visibility they would receive. They wanted to use this international platform to send a provocative message, and that's what they did. Now they pretend to be confused, as if that wasnt knowingly their intention all along.

Besides, rather than justifying this behavior with past behaviour, you should be asking yourself, "was it ever a respectable decision?"
Thank you for your contribution. We will make a note of it.

I would like to point out that it is only a 2.8 billion religion, because it colonized pretty much the entire planet and crammed itself down people's throats while simultaneously destroying all native culture. But yeah, you can be upset about a smurf lying on a table.



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For me who has a big interest in hockey the Olympics is the pinnacle, nations prepare their cycles around the Olympics, not the world cup or European championships. It would be a crying shame for me at least to see team sport events reduced to a smaller scale, as Sporting associations would rather invest money in 1 athlete than invest heavily in a team sport for the same reward. Talks of a hockey 5s which is a different sport to the 11 a side format, bit like rugby 7s, only that Rugby do not perceive the Olympics as the sporting pinnacle of their sport.
Hmm. I can see why the Olympics are not ideal for a team sport. In my opinion having one Olympic champions is more magic. You have one person being the absolute best at what he does.

But you're right about the perception. In football and rugby the Olympics are not the most important international trophy. But they are in field hockey and I'd argue they, surprisingly, are in basketball as well. Feels harsh to take that away.
 

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Sep 23, 2003
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Exposure is key. Not many people were aware of these other examples, including myself. Naturally, with something as grand as the Olympics, (literally the most watched spectacle on Earth) this imitation was always going to generate more outrage than those other instances you bring up.

But the issue lies not least with the time and place, but also with the fact that this distasteful display contradicts everything that the Olympics is meant to stand for. Its an event that it supposed to be a unifying force, something that brings everyone together. And yet they thought it'd be appropriate and befitting of Olympic principles to belittle a religion of which 2.8 billion people belong to. Such an occasion was chosen to do so because they know the extent of the visibility they would receive. They wanted to use this international platform to send a provocative message, and that's what they did. Now they pretend to be confused, as if that wasnt knowingly their intention all along.

Besides, rather than justifying this behavior with past behaviour, you should be asking yourself, "was it ever a respectable decision?"
France may not be much of a Catholic country these days, but it’s in their blood. Even if they aren’t 2.8 billion.

France also has a history of “Gay Paree”. Hell, I have a strange obsession with Maurice Chevalier. He played a suave ladies man in the movies, and was even parodied in a Marx Brothers’ movie (the kind of homage I like). But he was a complete flamer… just that you had to ask around to know. But that is part of French identity.

Today, it’s out of the closet. And we’re in a period between it being new and boringly old. So we get that opening ceremony that will age actually worse than it was live likely.

However, the root of much indignation today is a lot of people seem to think, if not demand, that everything be about them.

There’s a time while growing up as a kid that you always think everybody is watching and staring at you. As you get older, you realize most people didn’t know you existed.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Alen

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China v Korea in the Archery final (Mad that South Korea have always won gold since it became an Olympic sport)
The men teams final has just finished, and Korea won again. They were just amazing. Incredible how Koreans do great in sports that require huge concentration.
Turkiye was excellent in archery. I never expected them to be good in this sport, but they won the bronze and they almost made it to the final. Congrats @Turk_Bianconero
 

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