Our challenges so far in Serie B (2 Viewers)

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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On September 9, 2006 glamorous club Juventus started a difficult season in Serie B with an unexpected 1-1 draw against Rimini. On that day, Juventus were making their first ever appearance in division two football in their entire 109-year history.

Contrary to previous campaigns, this time their target is far off the scudetto or the Champions League in Europe. Juve are seeking a quick return to the top flight despite having to start with a massive minus 17-point handicap for their involvement in the match-fixing scandal that rocked Italian football last summer.

In the transfer season, various bidders came forward with lucrative offers to prise away Juve's top players. However, the new management succeeded in persuading a good number of their stars to stay and help the team regain its lost pride.

Inevitably, Juve, had to offload some of their best assets to balance off their books. Gianluca Zambrotta and Lilian Thuram joined Bar-celona and Fabio Cannavaro and Emerson followed in Fabio Capello's footsteps at Real Madrid.

Otherwise, Gianluigi Buffon, Mauro Camoranesi, Pavel Nedved, Alessandro Del Piero and David Trezeguet stayed put. With players of this calibre, Juventus will find it much easier to win promotion.

After the draw at Rimini, Juve steadied the ship and won all their next four outings, including a 4-0 drubbing of Modena.

Trezeguet, the player who missed France's crucial penalty against Italy in the World Cup final, has increasingly become vital for Juve's cause. He is hitting goals regularly and currently leads the scorers' list with five goals. Some contend that Trezeguet may join either Man. United or Lyon in January but one thing is for sure - Juventus desperately need Trezeguet's goals to make the Serie A.

All other top players in the squad are essential in Serie B but, perhaps, not as important as having a deadly striker of Trezeguet's quality. Experience teaches that in the Serie B, sides banking on a prolific striker are often the most successful.

Irrespective of the outcome of this week's appeals verdict, the Bianconeri are still the clear favourites to reach their goal. Indeed, this squad looks good enough to challenge in the Serie A let alone finishing among the top three at the end of the Serie B season. Besides, none of the other promotion-seekers are strong enough to run away with the division.

On the other hand, Juve's promotion bid has three flaws principally.

Their coach, Didier Deschamps
, is a great connoisseur of European soccer having played in France, Italy and Spain. However, he is a novice to the Serie B. The Frenchman may want to do well and prove himself as coach of Juventus, but a time will come this season when his lack of experience at this level will have its toll on the team.

Besides, although Juventus have only conceded two goals in five outings, their defence is not as tight as it may seem.

Jean Alain Boumsong, Robert Kovac, Nicola Legrottaglie and Igor Tudor are the four centre-backs at Juve. All are tried and tested but somehow lack cohesion. Surely, Deschamps must have savoured the moment Buffon decided to stay.

Also, Del Piero and company are only used to play top-level football. For many Juve players, this is their first taste of division two competition. Will their early enthusiasm last till the end of the term?

Genoa, Napoli, Brescia, Lecce, Rimini and Mantova are expected to challenge Juventus for the two automatic promotion slots.

Genoa are the hot favourites for promotion.

Currently, they lead the standings with 12 points from six outings. They look convincing at home but rather shaky away... they lost twice from three away games so far.

Mantova lost a decisive play-off to Torino last June. They are still under the charge of ex-Vicenza midfielder Domenico Di Carlo who can bank on a settled team that led the Serie B standings for most of last season.

Rimini, like Brescia and Zdenek Zeman's Lecce, are strong enough to make the play-offs even though they do not have any acclaimed names within their ranks.

On Sunday, they went down to Napoli at the San Paolo but Rimini played really well and did not deserve to lose.

Edy Reja's Napoli are a strong team. They are backed by enthusiastic supporters, as ever, and the ambitions of their president Aurelio De Laurentis.

Although automatic promotion could be out of Napoli's reach, particularly due to a lack of key players in certain areas, they are surely equipped to mount a serious challenge for a play-off berth.

By Antoine Dalli
 

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Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#2
ReBeL said:
On September 9, 2006 glamorous club Juventus started a difficult season in Serie B with an unexpected 1-1 draw against Rimini. On that day, Juventus were making their first ever appearance in division two football in their entire 109-year history.

Contrary to previous campaigns, this time their target is far off the scudetto or the Champions League in Europe. Juve are seeking a quick return to the top flight despite having to start with a massive minus 17-point handicap for their involvement in the match-fixing scandal that rocked Italian football last summer.

In the transfer season, various bidders came forward with lucrative offers to prise away Juve's top players. However, the new management succeeded in persuading a good number of their stars to stay and help the team regain its lost pride.

Inevitably, Juve, had to offload some of their best assets to balance off their books. Gianluca Zambrotta and Lilian Thuram joined Bar-celona and Fabio Cannavaro and Emerson followed in Fabio Capello's footsteps at Real Madrid.

Otherwise, Gianluigi Buffon, Mauro Camoranesi, Pavel Nedved, Alessandro Del Piero and David Trezeguet stayed put. With players of this calibre, Juventus will find it much easier to win promotion.

After the draw at Rimini, Juve steadied the ship and won all their next four outings, including a 4-0 drubbing of Modena.

Trezeguet, the player who missed France's crucial penalty against Italy in the World Cup final, has increasingly become vital for Juve's cause. He is hitting goals regularly and currently leads the scorers' list with five goals. Some contend that Trezeguet may join either Man. United or Lyon in January but one thing is for sure - Juventus desperately need Trezeguet's goals to make the Serie A.

All other top players in the squad are essential in Serie B but, perhaps, not as important as having a deadly striker of Trezeguet's quality. Experience teaches that in the Serie B, sides banking on a prolific striker are often the most successful.

Irrespective of the outcome of this week's appeals verdict, the Bianconeri are still the clear favourites to reach their goal. Indeed, this squad looks good enough to challenge in the Serie A let alone finishing among the top three at the end of the Serie B season. Besides, none of the other promotion-seekers are strong enough to run away with the division.

On the other hand, Juve's promotion bid has three flaws principally.

Their coach, Didier Deschamps
, is a great connoisseur of European soccer having played in France, Italy and Spain. However, he is a novice to the Serie B. The Frenchman may want to do well and prove himself as coach of Juventus, but a time will come this season when his lack of experience at this level will have its toll on the team.

Besides, although Juventus have only conceded two goals in five outings, their defence is not as tight as it may seem.

Jean Alain Boumsong, Robert Kovac, Nicola Legrottaglie and Igor Tudor are the four centre-backs at Juve. All are tried and tested but somehow lack cohesion. Surely, Deschamps must have savoured the moment Buffon decided to stay.

Also, Del Piero and company are only used to play top-level football. For many Juve players, this is their first taste of division two competition. Will their early enthusiasm last till the end of the term?

Genoa, Napoli, Brescia, Lecce, Rimini and Mantova are expected to challenge Juventus for the two automatic promotion slots.

Genoa are the hot favourites for promotion.

Currently, they lead the standings with 12 points from six outings. They look convincing at home but rather shaky away... they lost twice from three away games so far.

Mantova lost a decisive play-off to Torino last June. They are still under the charge of ex-Vicenza midfielder Domenico Di Carlo who can bank on a settled team that led the Serie B standings for most of last season.

Rimini, like Brescia and Zdenek Zeman's Lecce, are strong enough to make the play-offs even though they do not have any acclaimed names within their ranks.

On Sunday, they went down to Napoli at the San Paolo but Rimini played really well and did not deserve to lose.

Edy Reja's Napoli are a strong team. They are backed by enthusiastic supporters, as ever, and the ambitions of their president Aurelio De Laurentis.

Although automatic promotion could be out of Napoli's reach, particularly due to a lack of key players in certain areas, they are surely equipped to mount a serious challenge for a play-off berth.

By Antoine Dalli

A great, great Article, Rebel!!!

I hope Dallis predictions wont come true, although Juventus current form is to good to be true and to last until the end of a season.

But Dalli forgets one thing ---> if Juve gets a discount on point deduction, we will be in a much more better position!

Then on the other side, if we stay with -17, we may be screwed!

We will definitely have a crisis, short or long, I dont know, but we must stay focused and keep all our players, and maybe buy some more!
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
#3
i agree about DD, thats why i thought that he should've hired someone more experienced in serie B with him as an assistant.

the good thing is that DD has already instilled a winning mentality, in such an early stage. And i think although there will be some problems here and there but overall the winning mentality will prevail and will be the most important factor.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#5
sateeh said:
i agree about DD, thats why i thought that he should've hired someone more experienced in serie B with him as an assistant.

the good thing is that DD has already instilled a winning mentality, in such an early stage. And i think although there will be some problems here and there but overall the winning mentality will prevail and will be the most important factor.


:agree:
 

Omair

Herticity
Sep 27, 2006
3,254
#6
Has anyone considered that our appeal could go both ways ?? from what i know about appeals that make the situation better (( which usually the case )) and also can get the situation worse ... hope it's not the case here ...

What Dalli is saying is practically right .. the team is still on their high ... they'll find a hard time staying there ... :agree:
 
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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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    Omair said:
    Has anyone considered that our appeal could go both ways ?? from what i know about appeals that make the situation better (( which usually the case )) and also can get the situation worse ... hope it's not the case here ...

    What Dalli is saying is practically right .. the team is still on their high ... they'll find a hard time staying there ... :agree:
    Exactly...

    I hope players can forget about the appeal thing these days, because if they have high expectations, and the result comes not compatable with their expectations, then we may see a decline in their performance...

    I liked how Lazio's Rossi looks to the appealing thing: "If the deductions decrease, good. If not, there is no problem"...
     

    sateeh

    Day Walker
    Jul 28, 2003
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    am sure the management and DD prepared the team for the worst(which is not getting any point penalty reduction)

    imo November will be very important as we will have Brescia,Lecce and Napoli.So this will be a big test for DD's team
     

    Marc

    Softcore Juventino
    Jul 14, 2006
    21,649
    #9
    sateeh said:
    am sure the management and DD prepared the team for the worst(which is not getting any point penalty reduction)

    imo November will be very important as we will have Brescia,Lecce and Napoli.So this will be a big test for DD's team

    :agree:
     

    Marc

    Softcore Juventino
    Jul 14, 2006
    21,649
    #10
    There will be some affect on players if the sentence stays as it is, that is true, but as DD said, they are working under impression that the sentence wont be reduced.

    The way I see it, main problems will be injuries, especially in the midfield.

    For example, Nedved & Camoranesi get injured at the same time, who will play??!

    Pray to God, even if there will be injuries, that they would be light.

    And one more thing, Juventus usually drops in form on spring, so I see this time of year as a critical one.
     

    Philipp00

    Senior Member
    Jan 31, 2004
    1,517
    #11
    I hope that we are in the middle of the table after one month. If we climb up the table every few weeks our situation is more positive than now on the last place. If we have -17 or -10 or -8 points penalty does not matter now. serie B is a hard league and we have to fight in every match to win. I am nearly sure that we will get a playoff place and positive that we can get first or second if not too many players get injured or are in poor form. But we need a really great season with a lot of wins especially against teams like genoa, napoli, mantova... Everything is possible then.
     

    AngelaL

    Jinx Minx
    Aug 25, 2006
    10,215
    #12
    ReBeL said:
    Exactly...

    I hope players can forget about the appeal thing these days, because if they have high expectations, and the result comes not compatable with their expectations, then we may see a decline in their performance...

    I liked how Lazio's Rossi looks to the appealing thing: "If the deductions decrease, good. If not, there is no problem"...


    :agree: Me too. I hope that cobolli gigli was not being over optimistic re his comments on leaving Coni: -

    Events - 11 Oct 2006 - 4:58 PM

    Arbitration

    The hearing at the ‘Camera di Arbitrato’ of the CONI (Italian Olympic Committee), began at 9.30 this morning and lasted around an hour and an half. On leaving the building, our chairman Giovanni Cobolli Gigli declared himself satisfied: “We are expecting a substantial reduction of the penalty. It went as we expected. I’m satisfied as it was a very fruitful discussion during which both ourselves and our counterparts were able to get our arguments across. We’re feeling confident so I’m optimistic, even if there won’t be a decision before the end of the month”.
    Our players should ignore his comments & adopt lazio's rossi's attitude. It is a more professional one & an unfavourable decision would have less impact on morale.
     

    sco_tino

    Junior Member
    Jan 30, 2004
    99
    #13
    I for one am not thinking much about a possible reduction in the points deficit. Rossi's attitude is quite professional; Expect nothing and you won't be dissapointed. Believe me I know that feeling right now. But that said, it will be real great if we do get a deduction, I remember hearing in some quarters then that we dropped our appeal against the penalty then in a deal for the reduction of the points penalty.

    Let's see how it goes.
     

    Ahmed

    Principino
    Sep 3, 2006
    47,928
    #16
    I think DD should have had the job 2 years ago...Crapello should never have been brought to Taurin in the 1st place...the observation about the central defence is quite true we will definitely have to get better players at the back...
     

    el_02

    Junior Member
    Jul 31, 2006
    244
    #17
    ReBeL said:
    Exactly...

    I hope players can forget about the appeal thing these days, because if they have high expectations, and the result comes not compatable with their expectations, then we may see a decline in their performance...

    I liked how Lazio's Rossi looks to the appealing thing: "If the deductions decrease, good. If not, there is no problem"...
    :agree: Yeah, we must stay focus on what will happen ahead
     
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    ReBeL

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    Jan 14, 2005
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    Sleeping giants need wake-up call


    This season, the Serie B comprises 21 teams some of whom of a certain calibre, including fallen giants Juventus. They look stronger than the rest by a mile and a half.

    Despite a hard-fought draw against Spezia last weekend, Didier Deschamps's Juve have already claimed the platonic winter champions title and their promotion is expected to materialise quite some time before the end of the season. It is anyone's guess who will win the other direct promotion slot and who will make it to the play-offs.

    In football, there is no better feeling than to see the supposedly mighty ones struggling against the underdogs. Football commentators suggest that, after all, unexpected results make the sport the most exciting and with the best following around the globe.

    Juventus have been rather erratic lately. Before the Christmas recess, they could only share the spoils with bottom-of-the-class Arezzo at home.

    When the championship resumed earlier this month, they went down to Mantova 0-1 before thrashing Bari 4-2 in Turin.

    But Juve's great escape came last Saturday following the one-all draw with lowly Spezia. The Bianconeri were a goal down until Pavel Nedved's equaliser two minutes into added time.

    Juventus remain firm favourites to run away with the Serie B but they badly need an urgent wake-up call to put their long and enduring journey, which should end up by a much-awaited promotion, back on track.

    The Serie B this season has plenty of clubs suffering from delusions of grandeur. Along with Juventus, one might cite Napoli, Genoa, Bologna and Verona, all former Italian champions. Indeed, the glory days are something of the past for these clubs.

    The harsh reality of present days is represented by their relentless run to get back into the limelight and the coveted Serie A. Some will make it while others will remain in the doldrums.

    Verona, Italy champions in 1985, are currently third from bottom.

    They have to be very careful not to be dispatched to the abyss in Serie C1. Giampiero Ventura's side have all cards in place to avoid the drop but in the Serie B nothing's sure. There were several occasions before when promotion favourites ended up in the mire of relegation whereas, on the contrary, relatively unknown and less quoted sides won promotion to the Serie A.

    The Verona supporters are among the most deluded of all, constantly reminding themselves of Osvaldo Bagnoli's title-winning team more than 20 years ago. But ever since that unprecedented success, the Verona faithful were badly let down with the team spending most of the time in the Serie B.

    Juventus may seem the outright candidates to win the championship. But, one cannot remember a time when the Serie B was so evenly balanced. A good run of results, six or seven matches without defeat, could secure an automatic promotion place.

    Bologna, Mantova, Napoli, Genoa, Piacenza and Rimini are all in contention to join Juve in Serie A
    .

    The direct matches involving these promotion contenders were tight in the first round. The race is now on but with little to choose from one would not dare predict the winners as the championship enters the straight for home.

    by Antoine Dalli
     

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