Our Biggest Mistakes (1 Viewer)

- vOnAm -

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Jul 22, 2004
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#41
denco said:
[/B]You do have Dp on the mind do you not? post 2000 we won 5 scudetti with him playing a big role in all of them and youare saying it was a slight mistake to keep him, really where do we get these people?
Biggest mistake is obvious
2)Hiring Moggi
what we may have won under him is now seriously tainted cos of his sheningans. Berlusconi is 100% correct when he says fans and plays will suffer cos of what people like Moggi have done. Do you as a Juve fan deserve to see your club relegated for what Moggi has done? Do the players?
yes post 2000 we won many scudettos, but he wasn't really a schevchenko, henry, or nistelrooy....he was very inconsistant and only until the last two years did he began to play better....

but you made your point and I think I may have posted it in the wrong thread considering this is a "our biggest mistake" thread,

so i apologize if it looked worse than I meant, I merely meant he wasn't really that big on the pitch during those years and IMO wasn't the main reason we won, excluding our last two(which he made a few yet significant impacts) and we could've gotten somebody more effective during those years.

Anyways, I went on to say it was slight because we still won many scudettos(calciopoli aside) with him on so no need for me to mention him really. He is a Juve legend but still not the consistant performer by my books, I hope he concludes his career on a high but Im excited about the new generation of Juve without him.

And we cant say too much about Moggi, he played the game and that was that...it was him who succesfully brought in many of the players Juve had.
 

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#42
well there were some mistakes that no one can denie, but when you say focussing on dm rather than pm is not one of them but the dm that we bought werent in their form that i can accept,but lets see vierra no one can say he isnt one of the best that plays his position well wat i can say that in the past 2 years i havent seen zambrotta do what he did best under the helm of lippi i.e in the front court as if capeelo was keeping him back and telling him no offence, common zambrotta we are talking about... other than that we can say staedy goalscorer trezeguet scored good goals past season but he wasnt steady. leaving mutu, davids, and benching dp. not reinforcing the attack and duno if its eligible to say accepting second rate players in some cases(zebina, legrotali) cmon they play wiz juve? how is this possible????????? we neeeded an attacker as milans golden boy shiva well we needed fire arms ahead.i read somewhere getting caught cheating i dunno why i feel they are others that played the same game but arnt mentined in the scandal lets hope that we would out of our problems soon enough to get readdy for our 3rd star on our uniform
 

denco

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Jul 12, 2002
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#43
- vOnAm - said:
yes post 2000 we won many scudettos, but he wasn't really a schevchenko, henry, or nistelrooy....he was very inconsistant and only until the last two years did he began to play better....

but you made your point and I think I may have posted it in the wrong thread considering this is a "our biggest mistake" thread,

so i apologize if it looked worse than I meant, I merely meant he wasn't really that big on the pitch during those years and IMO wasn't the main reason we won, excluding our last two(which he made a few yet significant impacts) and we could've gotten somebody more effective during those years.

Anyways, I went on to say it was slight because we still won many scudettos(calciopoli aside) with him on so no need for me to mention him really. He is a Juve legend but still not the consistant performer by my books, I hope he concludes his career on a high but Im excited about the new generation of Juve without him.

And we cant say too much about Moggi, he played the game and that was that...it was him who succesfully brought in many of the players Juve had.
Man, Sheva has just the 1 scudetto to his name, is that what you want? Nistelrooy has only 1 premiership title and was benched in place of Saha, is that what you want? RVn is just a goal scorer and thats not what Dp is about. As for Henry he is big trouble in little china,in that he shines in a league that is so open and attack minded that when there is a step up in opposition, he is inconsistent too. I am just flabbergasted that Juventus highest ever leading goal scorer is having a question mark no matter how little to his name. He is the one ppl like to totally scrutinise as if you look properly Nedved only has had 1 super season with juve, same with Thuram and Trez. Noone has been consistently great for Juventus and noone even comes close to be as consistently good as Dp has been at Juventus. So no matter what form you come in, no way would i be convinced
 
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  • Thread Starter #45
    ESS-Juventino said:
    Our Biggest Mistakes last 10 years IMO

    1- Selling Roberto Baggio
    2- Buying Salas
    3- Not Buying Nesta
    4- Not Buyning Cannavaro after WC 2002
    5- Selling Mutu for Bojinov
    6- Selling Maresca
    7- Try Matchfixing while we didn't realy need that

    AND biggest mistake will be if we sell our italian players this time.
    You're right!That would be our biggest one!
     

    Eddy

    The Maestro
    Aug 20, 2005
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    #46
    One of the mistakes include selling Thierry Henry and not playing him in his natural striker position. Imagine a Henry-Del Piero forward.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    Feb 12, 2006
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    #47
    edpiero said:
    One of the mistakes include selling Thierry Henry and not playing him in his natural striker position. Imagine a Henry-Del Piero forward.
    henry was playing in his natural position, he was a left winger, then he moved to arsenal who converted him into a striker. i dont regret selling henry, because if we hadnt we wudnt of got trezeguet.
     

    Akerman

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    Oct 20, 2005
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    #48
    Our biggest mistake is obviously cheating. The next one might be ahead of us. If we handle the coming situations with demotion and Serie B/C badly then we have more to add.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    #49
    Akerman said:
    Our biggest mistake is obviously cheating. The next one might be ahead of us. If we handle the coming situations with demotion and Serie B/C badly then we have more to add.

    fact is we havnt cheated, how many times theres no real hardcore proof we cheated, just cases un anti fair play, but back to the topic, our biggest mistake was still selling chimenti
     

    sateeh

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    Jul 28, 2003
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    #50
    denco said:
    Man, Sheva has just the 1 scudetto to his name, is that what you want? Nistelrooy has only 1 premiership title and was benched in place of Saha, is that what you want? RVn is just a goal scorer and thats not what Dp is about. As for Henry he is big trouble in little china,in that he shines in a league that is so open and attack minded that when there is a step up in opposition, he is inconsistent too. I am just flabbergasted that Juventus highest ever leading goal scorer is having a question mark no matter how little to his name. He is the one ppl like to totally scrutinise as if you look properly Nedved only has had 1 super season with juve, same with Thuram and Trez. Noone has been consistently great for Juventus and noone even comes close to be as consistently good as Dp has been at Juventus. So no matter what form you come in, no way would i be convinced
    i have to disagree on that, trezi does wat he always does best which is score goals.Even after he was sidelined for injury for a long time he still scored goals.In the league alone he scored 20+ for 3 seasons is it ?

    thuram, although he has his blunders at times is brick in that backline since he came to juve.Good at his job but not as great as when he first came in.

    neddy always gave 110%, first season was good ,2nd was amazing.Then although he wanst at his best but can't be replaced at the team.Not until last year which we saw a big dip in form, but thats expected as he is no spring chicken.

    I see Alex as a big influential figure would helps the team beyond the field.On the field helps the team more with his personality and drive more.Dont get me wrong he will always add that bit of class to the forward line and will score goals from simply nothing at times.But i dont think he is the consistant performer in significance to goals and even at times overall displays.
    That would down to the rough play he gets at times, with the fact that he is a type of player that is soo versityle in his abilities that cant be very consistant. Similar to zidane, ronaldinho, messi, etc...They could have the great games and could have the below average ones.

    But he had two very good seasons, where he played better than many years from before.And contributed much more than before.And was more consistant than before
     

    Eddy

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    Aug 20, 2005
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    #51
    Badass Devil said:
    henry was playing in his natural position, he was a left winger, then he moved to arsenal who converted him into a striker. i dont regret selling henry, because if we hadnt we wudnt of got trezeguet.
    Flair-wise I meant.
     

    Akerman

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    Oct 20, 2005
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    #53
    Badass Devil said:
    fact is we havnt cheated, how many times theres no real hardcore proof we cheated, just cases un anti fair play, but back to the topic, our biggest mistake was still selling chimenti
    You are just being naive. I have learned to accept it.
     

    di_vladi

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    Jul 11, 2006
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    #57
    - vOnAm - said:
    yes post 2000 we won many scudettos, but he wasn't really a schevchenko, henry, or nistelrooy....he was very inconsistant and only until the last two years did he began to play better....

    but you made your point and I think I may have posted it in the wrong thread considering this is a "our biggest mistake" thread,

    so i apologize if it looked worse than I meant, I merely meant he wasn't really that big on the pitch during those years and IMO wasn't the main reason we won, excluding our last two(which he made a few yet significant impacts) and we could've gotten somebody more effective during those years.

    Anyways, I went on to say it was slight because we still won many scudettos(calciopoli aside) with him on so no need for me to mention him really. He is a Juve legend but still not the consistant performer by my books, I hope he concludes his career on a high but Im excited about the new generation of Juve without him.

    And we cant say too much about Moggi, he played the game and that was that...it was him who succesfully brought in many of the players Juve had.
    How can you say that Nistelrooy is better than Del Piero. He had only one good season with Man Utd 2002/2003 but has been performing awfully since then.
    Del Piero actually had 1 or 2 bad seasons. 1999/2000 was his worst season, but don't forget he had been out of action for almost an entire year. In 2000/2001 he wasn't great, but Juve played terribly that season and would say he was our best players. I remember so many matches when apart from Alex, all our players were just walking on the field. In 2001/2002 and 2002/2003 he was in top form again and in 2003/2004 his form dropped after another injury. This season he was in great form again but didn't get enough chances to play. I really think Lippi should have played him ahead of Totti who didn't do anything apart from that penalty.
     

    salvatore_

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    May 16, 2006
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    #58
    luca toni didn't play well either,del piero was destroyed by the italian press when he suffered from depression and lost confidence they came down so hard on him,same with baggio italy would have been knocked of u.s.a94 if it wasn't for his individual performances,then they blame him for losing the final!
     
    Sep 1, 2002
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    #60
    Juventinho said:
    I am sure you covered all the possible mistakes but few, how about:

    Selling Henry
    Selling Appiah
    Moving To Del Empty (89)

    Appiah was worth keeping, true.
    Henry, well lets be honest only Wenger still believed in him and he made him too.
     

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