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[Tifoso]

No, it's more like you stole an apple and the brother of a murderer put you in prison for 40 years and not did anything against his brother.

Stop to read Gazzetta, it is a Inter's Newspaper!

Good Year!

Exactly. What region of Italia are you from, amico mio? I miei sono da vicino Lucca e vicino Genova*)




*Translation (for the mods ) Mine are from Toscana and Genova

 

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[Ascension]

I repeat Moggi's words: 'At this time we cannot trust the transcripts.'

 

[HelterSkelter]

We're half way through the season,looking very good for a place back in serie A,and people are still whining about wether we are innocent or wether the Milan clubs are guilty.

FFS,get over it.Its done and dusted with.We're playing in Serie B,we'd be back in Serie A in 5 months time,and unless someone invents a time machine soon,nothing can change what happened.

GET OVER IT!!

 

[Ascension]

All right. Calm down, soldier.

It's not like it took me more than a day or two to accept Serie B. What our dear Italian friend, Antonello, is saying here is that something disgraceful happened.

If you have at least followed just a little bit of this saga you will discover that there was a collaborate effort to bring Juventus down.

And that, my friend, should make you, as a Juventino, determined to fight back.

 

[HelterSkelter]

The only way Juventinos can fight back is on the pitch.Not by talking about a issue that is done and dusted with,fairly or unfairly.

 

[Ascension]

That is just so wrong.

I don't know what to say.

 

[isha00]

And people are still wearing their blinders I see. If Juventus is totally innocent, that would mean everybody else is innocent as well, which is obviously not the case.

We are not talking about "talking with Bergamo" innocent.

Did you know that Milan and Inter shouldn't have taken part to this Serie A campaign?
You know why? They had much more than the debt allowed by Figc.
Why are they taking part to the championship? Cause Guido Rossi gave them a 70% discount of what they should have recapitalized. How convenient, huh?
Inter was able to field Recoba thanks to a stolen driving license and a false passport. This means that everything Recoba did on the pitch influenced the regularity of the championship (--> sportive illicit).
Roma took part to the 2003-04 championship thanks to a false guarantee they presented later than allowed. When it was discovered that it was false, Roma had an extra month to provide another one. Still, they always had enough money to give expensive rolexs to the refs as a gift.
And does anyone remember Lazio's scudetto of 2000? It was won with players bought thanks to the money clueless investors had invested in Cirio's titles (Cirio was Cragnotti's company, the investors never got their money back) and to the ones Lazio spared from paying taxes. In fact in that couple of years Lazio arrived to have more than 120 millions € of taxes not paid. Did they bankrupt? Of course not: Lotito gets to pay those money in the next *23* years and he also got a discount. Everytime I think about it, I realize how stupid Giraudo really was: he sold Zidane to get Buffon, while he could have spared the money he spent in taxes and could have created even stronger teams. It gets even nicer if you think that the taxes Lazio didn't pay were paid by honest citizens (also the ones who lost their fortunes thanks to Cirio), who saw their taxes rise. Many thanks, Cragnotti, really.

These are the honest clubs media talk about.

As for us, we didn't have debts, our players had regular documents, we didn't talk with refs (see Meani) and we didn't give them gifts.
Our only fault was having Moggi talking on the phone with Bergamo -something everyone else did- and the verdict itself says that we didn't commit a sportive illicit.

We are being taught that Moggi was the only rotten apple of Italian football and that now calcio is clean.


No, sorry but I can't accept it, I'm not gonna give up. They have spitted on the honour of our club and doubted (more than that, actually) its fair play, when they really had nothing to be proud about. There is still one chance to get justice and, personally, I feel I have to pursue it.

 

[white_rabbit]

We're half way through the season,looking very good for a place back in serie A,and people are still whining about wether we are innocent or wether the Milan clubs are guilty.

FFS,get over it.Its done and dusted with.We're playing in Serie B,we'd be back in Serie A in 5 months time,and unless someone invents a time machine soon,nothing can change what happened.

GET OVER IT!!

from football point of view its over
but fighting back can at least restore some of the financial damage

 

[JCK]

The only way Juventinos can fight back is on the pitch.Not by talking about a issue that is done and dusted with,fairly or unfairly.

I agree.

 

[Antonello]

And people are still wearing their blinders I see. If Juventus is totally innocent, that would mean everybody else is innocent as well, which is obviously not the case.

All clubs did the same things. They punished only Juventus, there aren't violation of atr.6

 

[Antonello]

Lombardia, near Milan.
Good year, firend

 

[Ascension]

We are not talking about "talking with Bergamo" innocent.

Did you know that Milan and Inter shouldn't have taken part to this Serie A campaign?
You know why? They had much more than the debt allowed by Figc.
Why are they taking part to the championship? Cause Guido Rossi gave them a 70% discount of what they should have recapitalized. How convenient, huh?
Inter was able to field Recoba thanks to a stolen driving license and a false passport. This means that everything Recoba did on the pitch influenced the regularity of the championship (--> sportive illicit).
Roma took part to the 2003-04 championship thanks to a false guarantee they presented later than allowed. When it was discovered that it was false, Roma had an extra month to provide another one. Still, they always had enough money to give expensive rolexs to the refs has gift.
And does anyone remember Lazio's scudetto of 2000? It was won with players bought thanks to the money clueless investors had invested in Cirio's titles (Cirio was Cragnotti's company, the investors never got their money back) and to the ones Lazio spared from paying taxes. In fact in that couple of years Lazio arrived to have more than 120 millions of taxes not paid. Did they bankrupt? Of course not: Lotito gets to pay those money in the next *23* years and he got also a discount. Everytime I think about it, I realize how stupid Giraudo really was: he sold Zidane to get Buffon, while he could have spared the money he spent in taxes and could have created even stronger teams. It gets even nicer if you think that the taxes Lazio didn't pay were paid by honest citizens (also the ones who lost their fortunes thanks to Cirio), who saw their taxes rise. Many thanks, Cragnotti, really.

These are the honest clubs media talk about.

As for us, we didn't have debts, our players had regular documents, we didn't talk with refs (see Meani) and we didn't give them gifts.
Our only fault was having Moggi talking on the phone with Bergamo -something everyone else did- and the verdict itself says that we didn't commit a sportive illicit.

We are being taught that Moggi was the only rotten apple of Italian football and that now calcio is clean.


No, sorry but I can't accept it, I'm not gonna give up. They have spitted on the honour of our club and doubted (more than that, actually) its fair play, when they really had nothing to be proud about. There is still one chance to get justice and, personally, I feel I have to pursue it.

This post deserves a medal.

 

[Seven]

Exactly. What region of Italia are you from, amico mio? I miei sono da vicino Lucca e vicino Genova*)




*Translation (for the mods ) Mine are from Toscana and Genova

I really don't think Lucca translates into Toscana .

 

[Antonello]

I really don't think Lucca translates into Toscana .

Lucca is a city of Toscana (one of 20 italian region)

 

[Albertmare]

Nice text dude
Juve till we die!
Even in Serie B we're proud to be black and white

well said my friend, they cant keep us down for long, forza juve

Like we've said before, Serie B or Serie F, Juventus forever!

Juve till I die!!!!

Juve is the best, Fcuk the rest.

Binter i wish you a thousand deaths.

FORZA JUVE

I don't love Juve, but I know Delpie loves Candyman.

always proud to be juventino.........

They will never win. Juve has milion fans all over the world. Even in Siere B we are more than the ... Jerks

same with u guys , always proub to be juventini , till die , nothing gonna change my love to juventus FORZA JUVE !!

 

[juve_amore]

nobody id innocent, but juve was the only team who got punished
juve's punishment was bigger than the other. they took our last two titles
and we are palying now in seria B.

but no matter what we will prove that we are the best team in italy and we will be back to seria A next season

 

[Pinturiccio]

juve will come back and when we will win any cup or league.. that will be our revenge hehe

 

[Antonello]

nobody id innocent, but juve was the only team who got punished
juve's punishment was bigger than the other. they took our last two titles
and we are palying now in seria B.

but no matter what we will prove that we are the best team in italy and we will be back to seria A next season

but no matter what we will prove that we are the best team in italy and we will be back to seria A next season

We 'll go to win with De ceglie, Paro, Marchionni?
We need them, but we also need some champion.

I repeat: stop to read Gazzetta!

 

[C4ISR]

We are not talking about "talking with Bergamo" innocent.

Did you know that Milan and Inter shouldn't have taken part to this Serie A campaign?
You know why? They had much more than the debt allowed by Figc.
Why are they taking part to the championship? Cause Guido Rossi gave them a 70% discount of what they should have recapitalized. How convenient, huh?
Inter was able to field Recoba thanks to a stolen driving license and a false passport. This means that everything Recoba did on the pitch influenced the regularity of the championship (--> sportive illicit).
Roma took part to the 2003-04 championship thanks to a false guarantee they presented later than allowed. When it was discovered that it was false, Roma had an extra month to provide another one. Still, they always had enough money to give expensive rolexs to the refs as a gift.
And does anyone remember Lazio's scudetto of 2000? It was won with players bought thanks to the money clueless investors had invested in Cirio's titles (Cirio was Cragnotti's company, the investors never got their money back) and to the ones Lazio spared from paying taxes. In fact in that couple of years Lazio arrived to have more than 120 millions € of taxes not paid. Did they bankrupt? Of course not: Lotito gets to pay those money in the next *23* years and he also got a discount. Everytime I think about it, I realize how stupid Giraudo really was: he sold Zidane to get Buffon, while he could have spared the money he spent in taxes and could have created even stronger teams. It gets even nicer if you think that the taxes Lazio didn't pay were paid by honest citizens (also the ones who lost their fortunes thanks to Cirio), who saw their taxes rise. Many thanks, Cragnotti, really.

These are the honest clubs media talk about.

As for us, we didn't have debts, our players had regular documents, we didn't talk with refs (see Meani) and we didn't give them gifts.
Our only fault was having Moggi talking on the phone with Bergamo -something everyone else did- and the verdict itself says that we didn't commit a sportive illicit.

We are being taught that Moggi was the only rotten apple of Italian football and that now calcio is clean.


No, sorry but I can't accept it, I'm not gonna give up. They have spitted on the honour of our club and doubted (more than that, actually) its fair play, when they really had nothing to be proud about. There is still one chance to get justice and, personally, I feel I have to pursue it.

Very well said Isha00. You never dissapoint.

The hypocrisy of Italian football sickens me. The fans, coaches, managers, etc all act like politicians, telling lies they know arent true just to manipulate other people's perceptions. Being innocent in Italy means u have the best lawyer.

 

[Seven]

Lucca is a city of Toscana (one of 20 italian region)

I know, I've been there three times that I know of but probably more, it's a nice city. I also know there are 20 regions in Italy that are all divided further into provinces. The capital of Toscana is Firenze.

But all that still doesn't mean Lucca is Italian for Toscana.