Official Zlatan Ibrahimovic Thread (22 Viewers)

[Akerman]

Vinman, you should take some chill pills too.

Zambo and Canna don't have to act angry because they get their share in the defense. Zlatan is also the one attacked by defenders most often, but his pchysics makes him more stable than let's say Nedved who falls too often when getting fouled. I think you should get lessoned by Capello in how to keep the good players and make them flourish. Capello is the best capatain in Italy and he keeps Zlatan playing, and it's not because Zlatan would get angry if he would be benched, but because Capello knows how important he is for the team and Zambrotta seems very fond of Zlatan too. I think it would be the biggest mistake in Juventus' modern history to let Zlatan go to a rival instead of teaching him how to stay calm and flourish as a player.

 

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[Shoryuken]

Yep. And I'm not too scared to say that I want him out of here as soon as possible. He was our best player against Treviso IMO, but what he does without the ball is absolutely unacceptable.

Ibra has gone far too far as far as I'm concerned and at 24 it doesn't look like there's going to be improvement. Finding a quality replacement won't be easy, but Ibra's not the world's best either and therefore can't afford to be such an ass if he wants to stay at Juve.

And before people get angry towards me, because I'm biased against Zlatan:
He is a good player and was IMO our MoM against Treviso, but his behaviour has become unacceptable.

Relax, Calling a Juventus player a cunt just because he gets himself into a little trouble at times is childish. What do you think of Patrick Viera? Is he a cunt too?

Maybe he is ok because he doesnt compete for the same spot as Del Piero. Thats really what it comes down to for you isnt it?I believe you said you would follow him to Roma. Maybe not. Whatever. Its not important.

If you cant support Zlatan as a Juve player at least avoid calling him childish names. Just let it slide whenever you feel the urge, trust me you will be a happier person for it.

 

[Espectro]

Ok coommon lets not overreact here, yes he did something wrong and yes its not the first time he has done it, but I believe that this is something that Capello needs to work with Zlatan.

Its Capello job to teach Zlatan a lesson and draw the line with him, so he does not react like he is doing at the moment.

But from that to "he doesnt deserve to be a Juventus player"... like I said lest calm down and lown down the tone.

Oh and by the way, Im not defending Zlatan's actions, all Im saying is that he is young and he still can learn, and that is Capello's job to point him whats he is doing wrong and teach him the lesson.

 

[Shoryuken]

Vinman, you should take some chill pills too.

Zambo and Canna don't have to act angry because they get their share in the defense. Zlatan is also the one attacked by defenders most often, but his pchysics makes him more stable than let's say Nedved who falls too often when getting fouled.

Ive noticed this too, actually i read an article in a newspaper a couple of months ago in which they stated Zlatan was by far the most fouled player in Serie A.

Not only that, he doesnt go down easy, he takes allot of hard hits which allot of the time doesnt even give yellow card. Must be very frustrating for him.

But yea, it would be allot better for him and Juve if he could control his temper a little better.

 

[Seven]

Relax, Calling a Juventus player a cunt just because he gets himself into a little trouble at times is childish. What do you think of Patrick Viera? Is he a cunt too?

Maybe he is ok because he doesnt compete for the same spot as Del Piero. Thats really what it comes down to for you isnt it?I believe you said you would follow him to Roma. Maybe not. Whatever. Its not important.

If you cant support Zlatan as a Juve player at least avoid calling him childish names. Just let it slide whenever you feel the urge, trust me you will be a happier person for it.

TonyMontana, you truly are a biased moron. I stressed the fact Ibra was a quality football player two times in my last post, but you still wouldn't read it. I can deal with blatant ignorance, but that's not what this is about, you wanted to overread that statement.

Are you comparing Zlatan to Vieira? Have you even seen both of them playing? Vieira might be controversial of the pitch, but I don't see him getting into a fight every other minute, I don't see him throwing elbows, I don't see him retaliating and I don't see him asking for red cards so perhaps you understand why I see a difference between the two.

Seriously? I should stop calling Zlatan childish names? I should respect Zlatan? I don't see the need to respect Zlatan as a person quite frankly. Perhaps when he grows up.

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[Seven]

Ive noticed this too, actually i read an article in a newspaper a couple of months ago in which they stated Zlatan was by far the most fouled player in Serie A.

Not only that, he doesnt go down easy, he takes allot of hard hits which allot of the time doesnt even give yellow card. Must be very frustrating for him.

But yea, it would be allot better for him and Juve if he could control his temper a little better.

Yes, that's it.

Del Piero: never been hit by a defender before.
Nedved: a big pussy that'll go down after any contact.
Trezeguet: he's a goalscorer, why would any defender try to take him out?
Emerson: a central midfielder, surely those don't get hit.

No, TonyMontana, it's Zlatan.

 

[Seven]

One thing needs to be clear for Ibra: he can be replaced.

 

[Akerman]

Seven, I'm happy Juventus doesn't have you as a coach. A smart coach would never waste a talent like Zlatan because he "doesn't fit" into your describtion of a Juventus-player. I think we could all agree that Zlatan has a big temper and could benefit in learning how to calm down and that he's also a big talent. Your reactions and your solutions isn't very logical, they are very unrational.

 

[Seven]

Seven, I'm happy Juventus don't have you as a coach. A smart coach would never waste a talent like Zlatan because he "doesn't fit" into you describtion of a Juventus-player. I think we could all agree that Zlatan has a big temper and could benefit in learning how to calm down and that he's also a big talent. Your reactions and your solutions isn't very logical, they are very unrational.

Capello bought Zlatan. I would have bought someone else. Zlatan isn't the world's best player and never will be. There are several players on his level. I would have gotten the one that did fit my description. Not only is Zlatan a cunt, he's also always at a red card risk, like Vinman said, and therefore a tactical risk.

I did not offer any solution so far. All I said was that Zlatan should leave. The easiest way to replace him is simply to buy someone else. We would receive a lot of money for Zlatan and IMO we'd be able to buy an equally good replacement.

My reactions definitely are rational. I've been saying from the start Zlatan would never be a classy player and thus not a player we should be interested in. Only seems logical that he's starting to piss me off when he's still a moron 1,5 year later.

 

[Shoryuken]

TonyMontana, you truly are a biased moron. I stressed the fact Ibra was a quality football player two times in my last post, but you still wouldn't read it. I can deal with blatant ignorance, but that's not what this is about, you wanted to overread that statement.

Are you comparing Zlatan to Vieira? Have you even seen both of them playing? Vieira might be controversial of the pitch, but I don't see him getting into a fight every other minute, I don't see him throwing elbows, I don't see him retaliating and I don't see him asking for red cards so perhaps you understand why I see a difference between the two.

Seriously? I should stop calling Zlatan childish names? I should respect Zlatan? I don't see the need to respect Zlatan as a person quite frankly. Perhaps when he grows up.[/QUOTE


I didnt "overread" anything it is just an observation i have made about you. True or false, whatever. I dont care i just decided to tell you about it.

Viera is the one Juve player with the most "cards" this season is he not? It would only be natural to be pissed at him too since Zlatans "class" is the alleged reason for your hostility against him.

P.s i love the way you started that post,-TonyMontana you truly are a biased moron,Concidering i had advised you to let it slide when you feel the urge to insult people. I guess you thought my advice was shit.

 

[Espectro]

Why I have the feeling that this is gonna end up badly...

 

[Gep]

FFS You arseholes play along nicely OK! Ha. Zlatan is quality! End of story, thats all you need to know.

So FFS! Button it you slags!! HA.

 

[Shoryuken]

Yes, that's it.

Del Piero: never been hit by a defender before.
Nedved: a big pussy that'll go down after any contact.
Trezeguet: he's a goalscorer, why would any defender try to take him out?
Emerson: a central midfielder, surely those don't get hit.

No, TonyMontana, it's Zlatan.

Zlatan is the Devil.

 

[Seven]

TonyMontana, you truly are a biased moron. I stressed the fact Ibra was a quality football player two times in my last post, but you still wouldn't read it. I can deal with blatant ignorance, but that's not what this is about, you wanted to overread that statement.

Are you comparing Zlatan to Vieira? Have you even seen both of them playing? Vieira might be controversial of the pitch, but I don't see him getting into a fight every other minute, I don't see him throwing elbows, I don't see him retaliating and I don't see him asking for red cards so perhaps you understand why I see a difference between the two.

Seriously? I should stop calling Zlatan childish names? I should respect Zlatan? I don't see the need to respect Zlatan as a person quite frankly. Perhaps when he grows up.

I didnt "overread" anything it is just an observation i have made about you. True or false, whatever. I dont care i just decided to tell you about it.

Viera is the one Juve player with the most "cards" this season is he not? It would only be natural to be pissed at him too since Zlatans "class" is the alleged reason for your hostility against him.

P.s i love the way you started that post,-TonyMontana you truly are a biased moron,Concidering i had advised you to let it slide when you feel the urge to insult people. I guess you thought my advice was shit.

I kind of did that on purpose though.

You must have overread, because you said I believed Zlatan was an ok player and that I was saying this to warrant DP's starting position. In reality I said Zlatan was great against Treviso and that he has had some good games in the past. Yet his footballing abilities aren't big enough to make up for his lack of class.

Let's see about your card theory:
Vieira is a central midfielder, those tend to make more professional fouls than strikers. Whereas Vieira gets cards for helping the team, Zlatan gets cards for retaliating, starting fights and making unnecessary fouls.

 

[Seven]

Zlatan is the Devil.

Why ridiculing me instead of acknowledging I made my point?

 

[Akerman]

Capello bought Zlatan. I would have bought someone else. Zlatan isn't the world's best player and never will be. There are several players on his level. I would have gotten the one that did fit my description. Not only is Zlatan a cunt, he's also always at a red card risk, like Vinman said, and therefore a tactical risk.

I did not offer any solution so far. All I said was that Zlatan should leave. The easiest way to replace him is simply to buy someone else. We would receive a lot of money for Zlatan and IMO we'd be able to buy an equally good replacement.

My reactions definitely are rational. I've been saying from the start Zlatan would never be a classy player and thus not a player we should be interested in. Only seems logical that he's starting to piss me off when he's still a moron 1,5 year later.

If you have no solution to offer I guess I will have to take you by your word then?

 

[Seven]

If you have no solution to offer I guess I will have to take you by your word then?

a)I don't even know what that's supposed to mean.
b)I did offer a solution.

 

[Akerman]

a)I don't even know what that's supposed to mean.
b)I did offer a solution.

a) It means that I will have to go with your way of thinking even though you have no solution to offer me
b) Are you schizophrenic or did you just say in the post i quoted that you had no solution to offer?

You keep making points about Zlatan that he's is not Juve-material and you don't want to keep him. You want to sell him for a big amount of money so you could buy another attacker, but the big question is, who would you replace him with and why do you think this attacker would be more fit than Zlatan to play in the black and white-jersey?

 

[Shoryuken]

I kind of did that on purpose though.

You must have overread, because you said I believed Zlatan was an ok player and that I was saying this to warrant DP's starting position. In reality I said Zlatan was great against Treviso and that he has had some good games in the past. Yet his footballing abilities aren't big enough to make up for his lack of class.

Let's see about your card theory:
Vieira is a central midfielder, those tend to make more professional fouls than strikers. Whereas Vieira gets cards for helping the team, Zlatan gets cards for retaliating, starting fights and making unnecessary fouls.

I didnt overread anything, in fact i never even said Zlatan was an ok player, go back and read my first post and you will see.

Sure, central defenders make more fouls then forwards and Zlatan does make some unneccesary fouls but its no reason to call him a cunt and i still dont believe that is the sole reason for all your hostility. But i like i said before, whatever.

 

[Seven]

a) It means that I will have to go with your way of thinking even though you have no solution to offer me
b) Are you schizophrenic or did you just say in the post i quoted that you had no solution to offer?

You keep making points about Zlatan that he's is not Juve-material and you don't want to keep him. You want to sell him for a big amount of money so you could buy another attacker, but the big question is, who would you replace him with and why do you think this attacker would be more fit than Zlatan to play in the black and white-jersey?

"So far" does have a meaning, Akerman .

Gilardino would have been more fit. Toni would have been a better option as well. Other than that I see people like Messi, Robinho and Adriano, although I doubt they're worth less than Zlatan.