Official Azzurri (Italy) Euro 2008 Thread (33 Viewers)

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Alen

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What Domenech is now saying isn't any different than what the azzurri fans were saying when they were accusing UEFA of a conspiracy against Italy.
Both are wrong.

As for Cassano vs Del Piero, the Sampdoria guy had the luck to play the match where Italy won and secured qualification. After such a win no-one will look at the negative things from the France match so everyone who did anything wrong against France will be given an amnesty and a chance to play in the quarters.
The same would have happened if Toni's goal against Romania was allowed and Italy won that match. Donadoni wouldn't have changed the winning team and Ale would have played yesterday, even if he had a bad match vs Romania.
Del Piero was unlucky, Cassano was lucky, it's as simple as that.

Personally, both of them disappointed me because they are the two guys(+Pirlo) i expected to lead Italy through the group of death but they were among the worst players on the pitch.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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What Domenech is now saying isn't any different than what the azzurri fans were saying when they were accusing UEFA of a conspiracy against Italy.
Both are wrong.

As for Cassano vs Del Piero, the Sampdoria guy had the luck to play the match where Italy won and secured qualification. After such a win no-one will look at the negative things from the France match so everyone who did anything wrong against France will be given an amnesty and a chance to play in the quarters.
The same would have happened if Toni's goal against Romania was allowed and Italy won that match. Donadoni wouldn't have changed the winning team and Ale would have played yesterday, even if he had a bad match vs Romania.
Del Piero was unlucky, Cassano was lucky, it's as simple as that.


Personally, both of them disappointed me because they are the two guys(+Pirlo) i expected to lead Italy through the group of death but they were among the worst players on the pitch.
Bravo
 

francesco

Till death do us part!
Jul 25, 2006
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Bloody terrible. Passing the ball to Mutu is one thing. But if he pulls that crap with Torres and Villa. Italy are screwed.
against Holland and Romania he was very disappointing as well as handing Mutu the goal, but yesterday against France, i saw some flashes of the old Zambrotta, he had a good game IMO.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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What Domenech is now saying isn't any different than what the azzurri fans were saying when they were accusing UEFA of a conspiracy against Italy.
Both are wrong.


As for Cassano vs Del Piero, the Sampdoria guy had the luck to play the match where Italy won and secured qualification. After such a win no-one will look at the negative things from the France match so everyone who did anything wrong against France will be given an amnesty and a chance to play in the quarters.
The same would have happened if Toni's goal against Romania was allowed and Italy won that match. Donadoni wouldn't have changed the winning team and Ale would have played yesterday, even if he had a bad match vs Romania.
Del Piero was unlucky, Cassano was lucky, it's as simple as that.

Personally, both of them disappointed me because they are the two guys(+Pirlo) i expected to lead Italy through the group of death but they were among the worst players on the pitch.
The thing about this tournament is that the longer you stay in the greater chance you have of benefiting from a bad call, as refereeing has been atrocious, but on the same page the longer you stay the greater chance there is of getting screwed over again. After yesterdays match, Italy can really no longer claim that UEFA hates them. If anything they should push for more consistent refereeing overall. Not only will that be more beneficial to their cause, but it will make them look a lot less like poor sports. That's just an observation from an outsider, nothing more nothing less.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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What Domenech is now saying isn't any different than what the azzurri fans were saying when they were accusing UEFA of a conspiracy against Italy.
Both are wrong.

As for Cassano vs Del Piero, the Sampdoria guy had the luck to play the match where Italy won and secured qualification. After such a win no-one will look at the negative things from the France match so everyone who did anything wrong against France will be given an amnesty and a chance to play in the quarters.
The same would have happened if Toni's goal against Romania was allowed and Italy won that match. Donadoni wouldn't have changed the winning team and Ale would have played yesterday, even if he had a bad match vs Romania.
Del Piero was unlucky, Cassano was lucky, it's as simple as that.

Personally, both of them disappointed me because they are the two guys(+Pirlo) i expected to lead Italy through the group of death but they were among the worst players on the pitch.
Alex's first half against Romania was good, it's as simple as that. Most Italian media reported that as well. He was invisible in the second half though. Either way to be honest, I think Cassano played very well last night. You can't expect more from the guy, not just yet anyway.
 

francesco

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Jul 25, 2006
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Tested isn't the word. I think he will get owned. Italy might win, but Zambro will do his best to make them lose.
unfortunately i dont see any better options other than Zambrotta at right side of defence. Grosso is doing great at LB and Panucci/Chiellini have teamed up rather nicely. Would start looking at other options for the world cup qualifiers...
 

denco

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Jul 12, 2002
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What Domenech is now saying isn't any different than what the azzurri fans were saying when they were accusing UEFA of a conspiracy against Italy.
Both are wrong.

As for Cassano vs Del Piero, the Sampdoria guy had the luck to play the match where Italy won and secured qualification. After such a win no-one will look at the negative things from the France match so everyone who did anything wrong against France will be given an amnesty and a chance to play in the quarters.
The same would have happened if Toni's goal against Romania was allowed and Italy won that match. Donadoni wouldn't have changed the winning team and Ale would have played yesterday, even if he had a bad match vs Romania.
Del Piero was unlucky, Cassano was lucky, it's as simple as that.

Personally, both of them disappointed me because they are the two guys(+Pirlo) i expected to lead Italy through the group of death but they were among the worst players on the pitch.
You hit the nail completely on the head as neither player did anything with the difference being as you said the end result of both games.

Cassano actually played better against Romania when he came on and against France with all the space afforded he did very little.

Both players are victims though of Donadoni's tactics which is to provide ammo for a clearly exhausted Luca Toni. The guy has played so many games this season and scored a lot of goals.

I am still baffled as the Di Natale snub as he did nothing wrong against Holland. The thing I am most irritated by is that the realy good players, the ones capable of making Italy champions are being marginalised and 1 in Inzaghi that would have got a hattrick last night is not even here.

The likes of Dp, Di natale, cassano and Aquilani should have had more minutes than flops like Ambrosini, Camoranesi and Gatusso.

I know a lot of people do not appreciate Perrota but I do as his energy is something this weak Italy cannot do without. He may not have the natural ability but he does find space both for himself and his colleagues, pity there is no Totti to exploit his running power.

As for Donadoni he is exactly like his mentor Sacchi, both insane tactically and with personnel prefering quantity to quality, seriously only a buffoon would have played Ambrosini ahead of De Rossi.

I had said it a long time ago DDR is easily the most complete midfielder in Italy perhaps the world and he is wasted as a defensive midfielder. Unleash him and he would make Steve Gerrard look like an amateur as he has everything.

As for gatusso and zambrotta, I am shocked at the incredible demise of these 2 guys just 2 years on from world cup glory.

Against Spain, Italy would probably go through with another unconvicing display especially if puyol is out as Senna alone cannot handle Italy's offence and I am not convinced that Iniesta is fully match fit.

Grosso better beware of Sergio Ramos as he might eat him for breakfast, that boy has got huge talent going forward whilst Chiellini and Panucci would know abot off the ball running against Villa and Torres as until now let's be honest they have not come up against much attack
 

francesco

Till death do us part!
Jul 25, 2006
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Grosso better beware of Sergio Ramos as he might eat him for breakfast, that boy has got huge talent going forward whilst Chiellini and Panucci would know abot off the ball running against Villa and Torres as until now let's be honest they have not come up against much attack
and Ramos better watch out for Grosso, he hasnt impressed me for Spain and was beaten alot of times. He loves jumping into tackles
 
Apr 12, 2004
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Domenech: Italy Game Was Fixed

Raymond Domenech has blamed referee Lubos Michel for France’s Euro 2008 exit last night, and says it was if it had already been arranged that Italy were supposed to win.

Les Bleus crashed out of the Euros at the group stage as their 2-0 defeat to Italy means they finish rock bottom of Group C with just one point.

The match was all but over from the 25th minute when Eric Abidal conceded a penalty for a foul on Luca Toni, and was also shown a straight red card as he was the last man.

Andrea Pirlo converted from the spot and the World Champions later added a second through a deflected Daniele De Rossi free kick.

Domenech was furious by the performance of the referee, and says that it was almost as if it had already been arranged that France must be knocked out of the competition.

“The mistake was giving Italy a penalty that also caused a red card,” Domenech lamented.

“It was a catastrophic evening where we lost a striker after 10 minutes and there was a penalty due to a poor decision by the referee.

“There wasn’t any real aggression, it was as if the game had been awarded to the Italians. We can only be disappointed.”

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I believe this, of course it's true. The Italians always cheat. Look at the league.
 
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