Official Azzurri (Italy) Euro 2008 Thread (25 Viewers)

[tpain]

i feel that part of italy's failure so far should be blamed on the referees. what the hell man. how can italy get bad calls for 2 consecutive games. now it is like...
in 100% of the italian games in euro2008, the referees make mistake AGAINST US.

this is kind of like as story plot or something?

 

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[tpain]

come on, bring in the italian ultras and mafia to scare the referees man

 

[francesco]

i feel that part of italy's failure so far should be blamed on the referees. what the hell man. how can italy get bad calls for 2 consecutive games. now it is like...
in 100% of the italian games in euro2008, the referees make mistake AGAINST US.

this is kind of like as story plot or something?

its been going on for years! not just in these Euro's. And its not only against Italy either, many countries are affected by controversial decisions.
FIFA is the mafia of the footballing world and Blatter is their Godfather.

 

[tpain]

its been going on for years! not just in these Euro's. And its not only against Italy either, many countries are affected by controversial decisions.
FIFA is the mafia of the footballing world and Blatter is their Godfather.

yes man you are right, and the last thing we need is people like Mr Mustafa implying that italy's failure are 100% due to poor performance

 

[francesco]

Read Gigi Riva!

this is just Riva trying to divert the players attention away from the media. He wants the Azzurri in the right frame of mind building up to what will be a very tough game against France. Riva has criticised FIFA and referees for ages now mate, but he knows theres no point just crying over it, because as long as there are no video refs, FIFA will continue fucking everybody over!

 

[Seven]

The thing is, it's not just against Italy. In all fairness they were never fucked over by the ref in 2006 and although they obviously deserved to win the WC, some teams really were kicked out by referees. One that comes to mind is the USA, who were unlucky to play against Ghana, because IMO FIFA wanted an African team to go through. Just like it might be a huge stimulus for Romania as a country, it was great news for the African continent back then.

As for these Euros, what bothers me most is the declarations made by the UEFA. After the Holland game they change the rule to save a referee's ass. After the Romania game, Del Piero's suddenly offside and active (what the hell?) and last but not least: they have to say Holland can field 11 substitutes and that that's just life. Obviously Holland can field 11 substitutes, but do you have to declare that and moreover the last part of the phrase is truly worrying: that's just life. It's like saying: tough break, you fucking Italians.

Oh, and Greece are out because of a refereeing error as well. Kudos UEFA.

 

[Cuti]

How are Greece out due to a refereeing error? I'm asking seriously, not taking the piss

 

[Seven]

Greece's goal was unjustly annulled. The guy was either onside or in a very debatable position in which, the rules state so, the advantage should go to the attacker.

 

[francesco]

Read Riva again.

you are just an arrogant Azzurri hater who doesnt like losing arguments. You, Andy and whoever else wants to jump on your bandwagon will never win this argument. I know what Riva is talking about, you giving me that response shows that you have no counter argument to my right response.

On another note, UEFA can suck my balls. They say the goal was OFFSIDE but yet i just saw on RAI news that the referee has been sent home. Now dont tell me that we should stop crying about this issue!

 

[Cuti]

Riva's comments are nulled as he dissed Malta

 

[francesco]

You got it wrong again, I have nothing against the team, never hated them and never will.

understatement of the year?

 

[Brixity]

Its a bit worrying though how all the fixing and pleading for Holland to play well seem to b coming from the Italian camp while Ive not read much of the same from the French side considering they are in an identical situation. Im hoping they dont preoccupy themselves with the issue while France r channeling all their energy into the game

 

[Alen]

Why can't Italy just win their matches instead of bitching about what should have been?

A legitimate goal is a legitimate goal, we can't compensate it with the fact that Italy didn't play well.
I'm just putting myself in the position of the Italians and i realize that it's close to impossible to be sportive when your country is involved and, like in your case, it's easy to talk about sportmanship and other aspects of the game when your country isn't involved.

But the accent here is on "YOUR country", and that's why some of the reactions in this topic don't make sense.

 

[Azzurri7]

What's the thing with your country or his country. If I support or cheer for the Italians it's up to me not to others to tell me what team I should or shouldn't support.

This tournament is called "EURO 2008" and since my homeland and country isn't in Euro, I think I have all the right to hope and cheer for a certain team to win it, that doesn't mean I prefer them over my homeland country which is a retarded argument IMO and being taken really far.


Alen, as for your post. I'm not Italian and I got pissed for the fact that Toni's goal was considered as an offside. I don't see anything wrong with that... though I'm not Italian, it's normal myself and some others to get pissed since they're Italian football fans.

 

[HelterSkelter]

The emphasis should be on 'The Team You Support'. and not 'Your Country'.If we're going to get into the 'your country' logic,then perhaps none of us should be supporting Juventus unless we're from Turin.If we can call an Italian club called Juventus 'our team' despite being Croats,Americans,Arabs and what not..why cant we call Italy 'our team' based on the same logic?

If a person supports a Tennis player other than the one from his country,thats not wong,if you support a team other than your country,thats not wrong either.Atleast you're being loyal to that one team,and not being a fan of 16 different teams.If someone is going to trash a person for being a fan of multiple teams,that i totally understand,but the 'You shouldnt support Italy if you arent Italian' logic is compleley flawed.Especially when you think of it form the perspective of someone who has a nonexistant football culture in his/her country..as quite a few members here have.

 

[Bjerknes]

You got it wrong again, I have nothing against the team, never hated them and never will.

That's the funny thing about this. Instead of actually taking our claims seriously, all they do is call us a bunch of Azzurri haters. I never had anything against them, never hated them, and always respected them. Now I will wish that they destroy France because now that is a team I truly do hate.

Alen, you're right when you say "our" doesn't make sense here.

 

[HelterSkelter]

Good enough.I know you and the others think its retarded,but i,and a lot of others,think its perfectly acceptable.Its down to personal prefrences,whats right for you people is wrong for us,and whats right for us is wrong for you people.Italy only has one more match to play anyway,so this probably wont go on for much longer.

 

[Seven]

A legitimate goal is a legitimate goal, we can't compensate it with the fact that Italy didn't play well.
I'm just putting myself in the position of the Italians and i realize that it's close to impossible to be sportive when your country is involved and, like in your case, it's easy to talk about sportmanship and other aspects of the game when your country isn't involved.

But the accent here is on "YOUR country", and that's why some of the reactions in this topic don't make sense.

Hey, I only talk to Italians and read Italian media, so obviously I'm going to get hung up about it . But, contrary to what many believe, Italian media are NOT unsportsmanlike and are mostly blaming the Italian team. That's why I find it strange how foreign media are reporting that Italians are looking for conspiracy theories as they are simply not doing so. I find the discours used by foreign media and UEFA highly discouraging as it is downright racist towards Italians. No one is looking for excuses over here, yet everyone out of Italy says it's "always the same with Italians, always looking for excuses". To make matters even worse they are doing so when pointing to refereeing decisions is actually legitimate.

The goal should have stood, that's all UEFA need to say.

 

[francesco]

Stop promoting posts, go read all my posts and see that it was all directed towards the fans. But you take it as you say because you too are a fan.

ok so where is your response to the referee being sent home by UEFA? im sure you have something to say which will be against the Azzurri..

 

[Seven]

That's the funny thing about this. Instead of actually taking our claims seriously, all they do is call us a bunch of Azzurri haters. I never had anything against them, never hated them, and always respected them. Now I will wish that they destroy France because now that is a team I truly do hate.

Alen, you're right when you say "our" doesn't make sense here.

You are supporting Holland on facebook and you called them "my guys".

I'm not implying that I don't understand what you mean, just saying that it's a fine line indeed. Add to that the fact that EVERYONE I know in Belgium is either for or against Italy and I would say it's perfectly comprehensible to support the Azzurri and not in the least bit retarded.

Speaking with "we" is stupid even when you're talking about Juventus. We is the team, fans are not the team.