Notebooks vs PCs (1 Viewer)

Chxta

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Nov 1, 2004
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Dual processors, improved battery life and bigger screen sizes all mean that the laptop is becoming a viable alternative to the PC.

In 2004 there were approximately 180 million PCs sold around the world, of which nearly 50 million were notebooks.

Traditionally, notebooks are the problem child of the computer industry.

Making them as powerful as a desktop is physically impossible, and trying to get them to run for longer than five hours is wishful thinking.

This is not to say that they have not been getting better.

Emily Campbell, from Dell, says: "There have actually been a lot of changes in the notebook environment in the last five years.

"One of the key things that we've seen in notebooks is the price of one to the average consumer - it's come down dramatically.

"At the same time as costs have come down so the performance has improved significantly."

There are two ways you can go with a notebook: big and chunky or small and petite.

Either way, though, they have not been able to take on the desktop at home, until now that is.

Emily Campbell says there have been significant improvements in screen technology.

"In the past we would have seen a 12" screen as standard in a notebook. Now you're seeing 17" screens with super-high resolution and notebooks that can replace a desktop in virtually any environment, but they're portable."


To drive these processors we need more power on the move, and that is one area where the solutions are not coming thick and fast
Part of that growth in the notebook platform revolves around developing the processor, and AMD has just made the future happen by launching its first 64 bit processor for laptops.

David Everett, from AMD, says: "We've made it that the transistors use less power than our mobile Athlons. We've also added some controls in there to take it to additional sleep states.

"So it's basically designed for mobility, yet we've not compromised on performance. It's still AMD 64 performance, yet now it's got the battery life and the thinness and lightness and all the things to do with mobility."

AMD's 64 bit Turion is just the first step. Both Intel and AMD are committed to multi-core processors, that is more than one processor in a chip.

Within the next 18 months we will be seeing the first 64 bit dual processors for notebooks, which will be very powerful.

To drive these processors we need more power on the move, and that is one area where the solutions are not coming thick and fast.

There has been talk of fuel cells for years, and we assume it is just a matter of time before they arrive.

In the meantime Toshiba has just announced a new Lithium Ion battery that recharges something like 60 times faster than current batteries. In fact, it is claimed that it will take an 80% charge in a minute.

Then there are the graphics. In the old days they were horrible, murky, black and white. Now they are bright, vibrant and colourful.

Richard Huddy, from ATI, says: "What we're doing is building more graphics horsepower into chips.

"The cool thing that we can do as time goes forward - and we can do this in gradual stages so that we just unleash a little bit more of the graphics power that's available - we can render at higher resolution than you can view if we have a good video scaling engine on the back end.

"We've given people the ability to program things so that anything they can see in reality, in principle, if they're prepared to put the effort in, they can mimic.

"There's almost no limit to what we can do if we have the extra horsepower available. "

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But despite all these developments it is not all change.

You may be surprised to learn that some technologies just are not going away.

Emily Campbell says: "Floppy drives are certainly something that, in the PC industry, we would have expected to die a gradual death with a proliferation of new technologies like CD-RW, DVD-RW, even memory keys.

"It seems like floppy discs are a technology that's been and gone as an opportunity.

"But what we do see is that customers still want it."

As to the future, it perhaps is not surprising that Sony has a plan to take the notebook even further into our lives.

Jun Koyama from Sony says: "Today only a few PCs have TV tuners built in. So watching and recording TV programmes is done by a desktop PC.

"But gradually, as notebook PCs get bigger in terms of screen sizes, [TV functions] can be taken over by notebooks. That is an area we want to expand."

So there we have it, the notebook is finally taking on the desktop at home.
 

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Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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This has been discussed quite a bit the last few years but despite the claims that the notebook has become (or is becoming) a viable desktop replacement, we're still not there and probably won't be for a couple of years. You can still put together a desktop for less cash than you would spend on the same laptop, performance wise. Only yesterday did I read some annoucement about a new development in batteries but my notebook still only runs for 3h and that's high.

So I'm not holding my breath, a lot of progress has been made but the desktop is here to stay.
 
Jul 19, 2003
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The only thing with notebooks is their relatively high price and their very expensive repair costs. I personally don't know how to install/replace any hardware on notebooks and ended up paying $300 for a damaged CD drive fix. After I fixed it, I sold it on ebay and that was it for me and notebooks.
 

Respaul

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++ [ originally posted by Bürke ] ++

I used to have an old school bulky notebook that ran for only 40 minutes it seemed like.
What is this world coming too.... notebooks at school... something wrong with a pencil and a peice of paper
 
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Chxta

Chxta

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Nov 1, 2004
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  • Thread Starter #11
    Personally, I have both a notebook and a desktop. But based on past experience, I'll go with that Egyptian when talking about repair costs. And I don't know if I am alone on this, but it seems that modern notebooks are far more fragile than the older ones? I've had a Pentium II Dell notebook for some years now, and I no longer hide it, but brandish it proudly, why?
    Because last year I bought an Acer Pentium IV for a month's pay, and it didn't last 3 months. What did I do? After taking it to the service center and being told that it'd cost me an arm and a leg to fix, I got a new battery for my Dell, swapped hard disks, and voila.
    So I tend to use my desktop when I am home nowadays.
     

    baggio

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    Jun 3, 2003
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    I use both, and both have their place like Shadowfax rightfully stated above.


    PS: Too lazy to start a new thread about this, but i picked up a Sony P 200 digicam on my vacation in the far east. 7 mega pixels et al. Was just in two minds between a Canon and Sony, and now i jes wanted some feedback. Love the P200 personally.
     

    JCK

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    May 11, 2004
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    What do you mean by the brand name?

    IMO Sony is the best digital camera on the market now because their lenses are made by Hasselblad (which I think is the best camera lens)
     

    gray

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    Apr 22, 2003
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    I can't look past Canon anymore when it comes to digital cameras. Simply fantastic. I've had plenty of experience using both Sony and Canon digicams.
     

    Martin

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    I'm not too crazy about Canon digicams, they're not as nice on usability as Nikon. The metal cases are also void of any rubber patches for a better grip, more likely to slip out on a sweaty day.

    *Canon owner*
     

    JCK

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    JCK
    May 11, 2004
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    ++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
    I can't look past Canon anymore when it comes to digital cameras. Simply fantastic. I've had plenty of experience using both Sony and Canon digicams.
    You have to try the new Sony cameras, since they started using the Hasselblad the quality of the pictures has changed a lot.
     

    baggio

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    I think Sony is the most functional of the lot, and most easy to use. Even though im an amateur at this, i dont think id put Nikon in the race between Sony and Canon as far as digis are concerned (of course they're right up there when it comes to film cameras and the like). And although some of you here say Canon are the name to be reckoned with, your obviously meaning at the top of the spectrum, but in reality a decent mid range camera like the P200 would compare favourably to a similar product from the Canon stable (in this case the IXUS if im not mistaken). Anyone got a Sony P series camera around here?
     

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