Jackson is 29.No way i'd pay 35m euros (his release clause) for him.
He's 28 and a proven forward worldwide. He has another 5 very good years ahead of him still.
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Jackson is 29.No way i'd pay 35m euros (his release clause) for him.
He's 28 and a proven forward worldwide. He has another 5 very good years ahead of him still.
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He's 28 and a proven forward worldwide. He has another 5 very good years ahead of him still.
I do remember you saying we should sign Mandzukic ahead of Morata...How has that gone about now ?
lol?
Mandzukic: 20 goals in 42 appearances, 5 in 10 Euro matches.
Morata: 14 goals in 44 appearances, 4 in 11 Euro matches.
It's gone perfectly fine since Mandzukic has 20 goals, including 5 goals in 10 European matches. Or are you saying that Mandzukic is inferior to Morata because Morata scored goals that put us passed Real Madrid? I really like Morata but him scoring key goals for us doesn't suddenly make him better overall than Mandzukic. He's younger and definitely looks promising but he's not on Mandzukic's level.
And while I'm not unhappy to see us sign Dybala, I do think we reached and overpaid for him. I hope he turns into an amazing forward and a beast but I don't think he will. I'm all about buying proven players if they're going to cost the same as younger players. If we could get Jackson for 5 years for 25m instead of Dybala for 30m, I'd take that at this point. Again, hopefully history proves me wrong (in this case) and Dybala becomes a beast. Until then, we overpaid.
Mandzukic: 20 goals in 42 appearances, 5 in 10 Euro matches.
Morata: 14 goals in 44 appearances, 4 in 11 Euro matches.
It's gone perfectly fine since Mandzukic has 20 goals, including 5 goals in 10 European matches. Or are you saying that Mandzukic is inferior to Morata because Morata scored goals that put us passed Real Madrid? I really like Morata but him scoring key goals for us doesn't suddenly make him better overall than Mandzukic. He's younger and definitely looks promising but he's not on Mandzukic's level.
And while I'm not unhappy to see us sign Dybala, I do think we reached and overpaid for him. I hope he turns into an amazing forward and a beast but I don't think he will. I'm all about buying proven players if they're going to cost the same as younger players. If we could get Jackson for 5 years for 25m instead of Dybala for 30m, I'd take that at this point. Again, hopefully history proves me wrong (in this case) and Dybala becomes a beast. Until then, we overpaid.
Mandzukic is 29 now. Just turned 29 a couple days ago. I wouldn't bring him here for over about 10-15 mil like Tevez.
And you're not taking into account that Morata has played far less minutes as he was not first choice for the first couple months of the season. Minutes played tell a far different story between the two.
Morata has 14 goals-6 assists in 2230 minutes in all comps. A goal/assist every 111.5 minutes
Mandzukic has 20 goals-5 assists in 3060 minutes in all comps. A goal/assist every 122.4 minutes
Morata is already on Mandzukic's level, and when the CL knockout round goals are taken into account, I'd say even slightly above Mandzukic now.
And you're not taking into account that Morata has played far less minutes as he was not first choice for the first couple months of the season. Minutes played tell a far different story between the two.
Morata has 14 goals-6 assists in 2230 minutes in all comps. A goal/assist every 111.5 minutes
Mandzukic has 20 goals-5 assists in 3060 minutes in all comps. A goal/assist every 122.4 minutes
Morata is already on Mandzukic's level, and when the CL knockout round goals are taken into account, I'd say even slightly above Mandzukic now.
I wouldnt trade Morata for Mandzukic right now.He may not be prolific yet but he's certainly more refined technically than Mandzukic.I wouldnt imagine Mandzukic to be the same threat as Morata is on the break.Running with the ball at pace is something i've rarely seen Mandzukic do.Morata compliments Tevez perfectly.
Jackson on the other hand is more of a poacher.Not denying his quality but i'd like to see Juve having that extra dimension in attack with the pace and flair Morata and Dybala would potentially provide.Its not like we're short of goals.As long as Tevez is there,i wouldnt worry too much.
Honestly,we really need to stop pretending like we know more than the Juve higher ups who have basically built an empire which would be really difficult to stop for the rest of the league.
Jackson on the other hand is more of a poacher.Not denying his quality but i'd like to see Juve having that extra dimension in attack with the pace and flair Morata and Dybala would potentially provide.Its not like we're short of goals.As long as Tevez is there,i wouldnt worry too much.
Honestly,we really need to stop pretending like we know more than the Juve higher ups who have basically built an empire which would be really difficult to stop for the rest of the league.
True as well.But we need to give them the benefit of the doubt because the rights to wrongs ratio has been like 80-20.
This season has totally shut me as well as other critics for good.What was initially thought to be a mediocre mercato with Morata,Evra and Pereyra signings has actually turned out to be a genius mercato.
So this season will not only be remembered for its success on the field but also for the transfer market decisions we made.
This season has totally shut me as well as other critics for good.What was initially thought to be a mediocre mercato with Morata,Evra and Pereyra signings has actually turned out to be a genius mercato.
So this season will not only be remembered for its success on the field but also for the transfer market decisions we made.
I don't understand the comparison of the two players. They are both forwards I guess? Jackson is at his peak, Dybala is a potential mega talent just being born. What we've done is smart because Dybala is a long term replacement for Tevez. And don't give the lad one season before crapping on him, there will be even bigger pressure on us to win everything next season.
Would be great if true, we've been screaming for a top level striker for a while. If we can keep our players healthy, this midfield - attack looks quite strong:
--------Coquelin----Cazorla---
---Ramsey(Ox)----Ozil------Sanchez
-------------J.Martinez
Add Vidal to that, and it would be
--------Coquelin----Cazorla---
---Ramsey(Ox)----Ozil------Sanchez
-------------J.Martinez
Add Vidal to that, and it would be
How come?
Coquelin has been a revelation ever since he started playing for us in December. He's a big game player as well, doing really well away from home in games against City and United. Only concern is whether this is just a purple patch, or whether he can continue this form, because in the second half of the season he's been one of the most effective ball winners in the EPL.
Cazorla is a magician and one of my favorite players. His form has faded in the last couple of months, but that period between November - February, Santi was amazing.
Coquelin has been a revelation ever since he started playing for us in December. He's a big game player as well, doing really well away from home in games against City and United. Only concern is whether this is just a purple patch, or whether he can continue this form, because in the second half of the season he's been one of the most effective ball winners in the EPL.
Cazorla is a magician and one of my favorite players. His form has faded in the last couple of months, but that period between November - February, Santi was amazing.
How i see this: 4 players up top are good. I'm not a great fan of Ramsey for example, but he can absolutely be world class on his day and if he stays injury free. Same goes for Ozil, he can completely disappear during the game though and his fitness level is always questionable. Martinez is a tank and would be great, while Alexis is the player i would really welcome here. Just like MikeM i think that Ozil and Ramsey seem too lightweight, that's why i'd add two great CMs to compliment them. Cazorla always seemed to me like a good offensive option from the bench, while about Coquelin i can't say much because i don't watch Arsenal too much, didn't really notice him in the games i saw though. Schneiderlin would be a really good acquisition for this idea.
This is all based on very few EPL games i saw so i might be very wrong.
Also i don't want to be an ass, but Arsenal's squad seems really mediocre to me even though they've managed to finish 3rd this season.
This is all based on very few EPL games i saw so i might be very wrong.
Also i don't want to be an ass, but Arsenal's squad seems really mediocre to me even though they've managed to finish 3rd this season.
How i see this: 4 players up top are good. I'm not a great fan of Ramsey for example, but he can absolutely be world class on his day and if he stays injury free. Same goes for Ozil, he can completely disappear during the game though and his fitness level is always questionable. Martinez is a tank and would be great, while Alexis is the player i would really welcome here. Just like MikeM i think that Ozil and Ramsey seem too lightweight, that's why i'd add two great CMs to compliment them. Cazorla always seemed to me like a good offensive option from the bench, while about Coquelin i can't say much because i don't watch Arsenal too much, didn't really notice him in the games i saw though. Schneiderlin would be a really good acquisition for this idea.
This is all based on very few EPL games i saw so i might be very wrong. Also i don't want to be an ass, but Arsenal's squad seems really mediocre to me even though they've managed to finish 3rd this season.
This is all based on very few EPL games i saw so i might be very wrong.
Also i don't want to be an ass, but Arsenal's squad seems really mediocre to me even though they've managed to finish 3rd this season.
IMO it could work out with one defensive midfielder, if the likes of Ramsey, Ozil and Santi stay fit and are more consistent.As for our squad being mediocre, I'd have agreed if you said this a couple of years ago, I used to think our squad was shit. But right now, IMO we have a lot of good players, 3rd place is just where we belong IMO, and with 2-3 quality signings we should be competing for the title. Wenger needs to sort out the injury situation though, obviously you will not be competitive when half your team is out injured for an average 2-3 months.
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