Non-Juve Transfer news (official or rumors) (61 Viewers)

[pitbull]

It's a joke. I can't believe people are actually defending this move, let alone supporting it as somehow good for football.

And no, neither Barca nor Madrid have ever done anything remotely similar to this.

In the last 30 years the biggest transfer record fee jump was by Inter when they bought Vieri for 32 million pounds, a jump of 49% from Denilson's transfer fee of 21.5 million pounds a year earlier.

Zidane was a 26% on Figo's transfer fee. And since those were both by Madrid, Zidane was only a 30% jump on Crespo the previous non-Madrid record.

C. Ronaldo was a 43% jump on Kaka.

Even if we go all the way from Crespo to Bale, in which Real Madrid continually broke its own transfer records over a period of 13 years... the jump for that entire period is 83.3%. And 3 of those players were Ballon d'Or winners.

Throw in Pogba and you get a rise in transfer record from 2000 to 2016 of 91%. 1.91X increase. Over 16 years.

PSG on the other hand just raised the transfer record by 124.7%. 2.1X the previous record. In a single season. For Neymar. Who is not a Ballon d'Or winner or the best player in football (maybe top 5). FFP is an absolute joke if UEFA don't bitch slap this club right out of the CL.

1. FFP is an absolute joke
2. Why do you care how much they paid for Neymar? I honestly don't care if it's 100m, 150m or 200m, if China clubs making random footballers stupid rich didn't disturb the market, one Neymar surely won't, it'll probably affect only how much Barca will have to pay for his replacement

 

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[Post Ironic]

1. FFP is an absolute joke
2. Why do you care how much they paid for Neymar? I honestly don't care if it's 100m, 150m or 200m, if China clubs making random footballers stupid rich didn't disturb the market, one Neymar surely won't, it'll probably affect only how much Barca will have to pay for his replacement

It will certainly distort the market. Mbappe, Dembele, and other top talents with Ballon d'Or potential are no longer going to be sold in that 100-120m price range. It's going to spike the transfer market. A transfer market that really hadn't increased all that much post-Zidane, over 15 years. 75 mil to 105 mil. All of a sudden PSG throws out 220 mil. And the other members of the uber-rich are going to want to compete with this. If FFP shows no teeth here there will be no reason for the owners of clubs like ManCity, ManU, Chelsea, etc to hold back anymore for a semblance of following the rules.

Unless a European super league is forthcoming, eventually we will not be able to compete with teams that can spend over half our yearly revenue on a single player. The richness of the EPL was already taking football in that direction, but this just accelerated that process by several years. PSG jumped the gun on everyone. Increasing the transfer record by 115mil, over 2X is obscene and should not be allowed.

 

[Wittl]

It will certainly distort the market. Mbappe, Dembele, and other top talents with Ballon d'Or potential are no longer going to be sold in that 100-120m price range. It's going to spike the transfer market. A transfer market that really hadn't increased all that much post-Zidane, over 15 years. 75 mil to 105 mil. All of a sudden PSG throws out 220 mil. And the other members of the uber-rich are going to want to compete with this. If FFP shows no teeth here there will be no reason for the owners of clubs like ManCity, ManU, Chelsea, etc to hold back anymore for a semblance of following the rules.

Unless a European super league is forthcoming, eventually we will not be able to compete with teams that can spend over half our yearly revenue on a single player. The richness of the EPL was already taking football in that direction, but this just accelerated that process by several years. PSG jumped the gun on everyone. Increasing the transfer record by 115mil, over 2X is obscene and should not be allowed.

We may once be in same position as Ajax is now.

 

[Afghan_juventus]

We may once be in same position as Ajax is now.

im guessing a return from Milan and Inter along with an overall stronger Serie A will help us avoid that.

 

[Post Ironic]

We may once be in same position as Ajax is now.

 

[Hist]

I don't have any issues with the Neymar transfer in terms of principle. I am surprised he went along with it and how much PSG decided to spend for him but in principle, richer clubs always poached players from poorer clubs its just this time its a rich, small seemingly unattractive club poaching players from a less rich (but still very rich) big and attractive club.

Just in the last window we did something similar in inflating Pogba's price to 100 mill and in activating the release clauses of Pjanic and Higuain against their club's wishes. In the Higuain purchase in specific, we were the richer club forcing a key player transfer at an inflated price from the poorer club. If we had PSG money, I'd be more than happy if we had done this to Barca to bring Neymar (its a massive financial risk imo though). The principle is the same its just a question of degree.

The reason I don't like this is that I feel we are being priced out of the market for top players but I felt no sympathy to Napoli when we did the same to them.

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It will certainly distort the market. Mbappe, Dembele, and other top talents with Ballon d'Or potential are no longer going to be sold in that 100-120m price range. It's going to spike the transfer market. A transfer market that really hadn't increased all that much post-Zidane, over 15 years. 75 mil to 105 mil. All of a sudden PSG throws out 220 mil. And the other members of the uber-rich are going to want to compete with this. If FFP shows no teeth here there will be no reason for the owners of clubs like ManCity, ManU, Chelsea, etc to hold back anymore for a semblance of following the rules.

Unless a European super league is forthcoming, eventually we will not be able to compete with teams that can spend over half our yearly revenue on a single player. The richness of the EPL was already taking football in that direction, but this just accelerated that process by several years. PSG jumped the gun on everyone. Increasing the transfer record by 115mil, over 2X is obscene and should not be allowed.

They took a massive financial risk in doing that. There is a good chance this doesnt work out for them and they end up being just as good or only slightly better in the end. One player can only do so much (he is not Messi) and even if he does become as good, that doesnt necessarily translate into CL titles. Football success has too many variables. A lot of this transfer is Qatar buying political influence in France in my view.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Fucking crazy if true.

Khelaifi was spotted in a Madrid restaurant. Rumours have it PSG will be bidding $100m to activate Oblak's release clause.

 

[Post Ironic]

PSG is -800 million in transfer balance since 11-12

Manchester City is -722 million.

Manchester United is -683 million.

No one else is worse than -300 million.

Those 3 clubs are destroying football.

 

[PhRoZeN]

United do make a shitload of genuine income though.

 

[pitbull]

It will certainly distort the market. Mbappe, Dembele, and other top talents with Ballon d'Or potential are no longer going to be sold in that 100-120m price range. It's going to spike the transfer market. A transfer market that really hadn't increased all that much post-Zidane, over 15 years. 75 mil to 105 mil. All of a sudden PSG throws out 220 mil. And the other members of the uber-rich are going to want to compete with this. If FFP shows no teeth here there will be no reason for the owners of clubs like ManCity, ManU, Chelsea, etc to hold back anymore for a semblance of following the rules.

Unless a European super league is forthcoming, eventually we will not be able to compete with teams that can spend over half our yearly revenue on a single player. The richness of the EPL was already taking football in that direction, but this just accelerated that process by several years. PSG jumped the gun on everyone. Increasing the transfer record by 115mil, over 2X is obscene and should not be allowed.

Neymar was never available for 100-120m, if he was we'd have gone for him not Higuain last summer and would've faced competition from 10 other clubs. IMO this isn't a game changer, it's just how much a Neymar costs in nowadays market.

If you think transfer market hadn't changed all that much since Zidane, I suggest you look at EPL transfer fees now and then.

 

[Post Ironic]

Neymar was never available for 100-120m, if he was we'd have gone for him not Higuain last summer and would've faced competition from 10 other clubs. If you think transfer market hadn't changed all that much since Zidane, I suggest you look at EPL transfer fees now and then. This isn't a game changer, it's just how much a Neymar costs in nowadays market.

I agree it has changed. But nowhere near in line with teams spending 220 million on a single player. And you know what. I don't have so much of a problem with that if a team were selling to cover a significant portion of that. But PSG is operating on an over 200 mil negative this year, and 800 mil negative over the last 6 years in the transfer market.

Real and Barca are both in the -150 mil range for that entire period.

PSG, ManCity, and ManU are operating at a ridiculous loss in the transfer market post 2010. It needs to be curtailed and capped. There should be a hard cap of some sort over a period of 3-5 years. Something reasonable. Otherwise a few teams are just going to spend everyone else into the poor house.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Isco signs a new deal with a $700m release clause

Apparently there are no players in Madrid's first-team squad with a clause below 500 million.

 

[Dujj]

Barcelona back to their good old tricks, forcing a player to clash with his club, and forcing his club to accept a lower fee.

What a disgusting club. So happy PSG f*cked them in the a** like never before.

Sadly PSG is all alone. All other clubs are bending over to that trash catalan club.

 

[Post Ironic]

Isco signs a new deal with a $700m release clause

Apparently there are no players in Madrid's first-team squad with a clause below 500 million.

Pocket change for PSG next summer

 

[Juliano13]

The media and people have spent way more time discussing the Neymar transfer than it deserves. Real Madrid spent more than 50% of their revenue on Zidane in 2001. Zidane was also arguably the best player in the world at the time. Neymar isn't.

 

[Post Ironic]

The media and people have spent way more time discussing the Neymar transfer than it deserves. Real Madrid spent more than 50% of their revenue on Zidane in 2001. Zidane was also arguably the best player in the world at the time. Neymar isn't.

PSG would have spent 3/4 of their revenue on this Neymar transfer if it wasn't for far above market value sponsorships from their owners corporations.

 

[PhRoZeN]

I find the whole no first team player doesnt have a release clause less than of 500m to be bizarre, but I got it from spanish newspaper AS.

https://en.as.com/en/2017/08/11/football/1502438095_840377.html

At the same time the daily shitxpress are saying Marco Asensio has a $75m release clause and Barca are trying to lure him.

While Barcelona go as high as 300m with their release clauses.

 

[Dujj]

The media and people have spent way more time discussing the Neymar transfer than it deserves. Real Madrid spent more than 50% of their revenue on Zidane in 2001. Zidane was also arguably the best player in the world at the time. Neymar isn't.

Prices are crazy this mercato. Lukaku (100-110), Neymar (222), Mendy (60), Dembele (130?), Coutinho (150?) just to name a few. All overpriced.

As if PSG were alone in this mess.

 

[Juliano13]

PSG would have spent 3/4 of their revenue on this Neymar transfer if it wasn't for far above market value sponsorships from their owners corporations.

That's probably true, but if they want to waste their petrodollars why should we care? Better that they spend it on football then on terrorism.

 

[Post Ironic]

Prices are crazy this mercato. Lukaku (100-110), Neymar (222), Mendy (60), Dembele (130?), Coutinho (150?) just to name a few.

As if PSG were alone in this mess.

Yes. Because so many other clubs are operating on negative 800 million balance in the transfer market over the last 6 years.