No matter who we sign (5 Viewers)

[Togon]

I was thinking about he t-period end just reached the point when i have to say: It doesnt really matters who we buy.

I trust the Capello-Moggi duo as much as that i dont think they gonna make obviously stupid signings and i think they earned that respect.

There are so many equaly (doesnt mean similiar at all!) good players around that it is basically and purely the matter of taste who we gonna like in the bianconeri shirt next season.

Moggi wont sign any ***kheads and Capello can bring out the best from anyone he chooses.

Just take some examples:

What if Cassabo arrives? Would anyone be absolutely sure that a Cass-Zlatan-Trez trio would be better functioning then Mutu-Zlatan-Trez? Is there anyone who would pick 100 percen sure any trio better than this two?

And is there any more reliable midfield duo behind the above mentioned trios then Emerson and Giannichedda? (Emerson and Vieira if you are dreaming, but not many more)

Camoranesi proved a lot this year and Nedved Cannot be writen off as well, may another creative side-midfielder would make some improvement but have trust in the above mentioned two as well.

Our defence had been rock solid this season and quite probably will be able two achieve nearly on the same level next season. maybe miquel would add to the lineup, maybe Chiellini on the left and Zambro on the right, but what if it stays as it was? Zambrotta only can play batter then he played this season, while Zebine showed that he is one, if not the best defender in the world considering the athletical capabilities (and he linked with Camo nicely.)

Buffon is one and only

so as i think: for a Juvefan this years transefer period should be the time of relaxed quessing and than enjoying the signing policy of the two masters.

Nothing more serious then that.

(if that was obvious than sorry for the thread)

 

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[Boksic]

these are the risks of the transfer market. But in order to become great, risks need to be taken.

 

[dossis1986]

imo the Cassano,Trez,Zlatan is class better,and of course i don't think that Giannichedda will be at the first team.

 

[Juve_Kosova]

++ [ originally posted by dossis1986 ] ++
imo the Cassano,Trez,Zlatan is class better,and of course i don't think that Giannichedda will be at the first team.

 

[Torkel]

++ [ originally posted by Togon ] ++
And is there any more reliable midfield duo behind the above mentioned trios then Emerson and Giannichedda? (Emerson and Vieira if you are dreaming, but not many more)

Just to respond to this; I think there are many more. Gianchedda is barely an upgrade on Tacchinardi, I would rather go with Appiah.

On a whole I agree, we do make a lot of good signings, even if they are at times kinda boring.

 

[3pac]

++ [ originally posted by Togon ] ++
Our defence had been rock solid this season and quite probably will be able two achieve nearly on the same level next season. maybe miquel would add to the lineup, maybe Chiellini on the left and Zambro on the right, but what if it stays as it was? Zambrotta only can play batter then he played this season, while Zebine showed that he is one, if not the best defender in the world considering the athletical capabilities (and he linked with Camo nicely.)

zebina the best defender in the world?

 

[giovanotti]

++ [ originally posted by Sir Sebastian ] ++


zebina the best defender in the world?

I am confused about the same thing!

 

[Len]

Me too

 

[arc]

i cant agree your point on zebina, he is the worst, even tudor desereve a bench seat more than he is

i know we have to relax a bit and leave the works to moggi, but seeing milan buying one class player after one just scared the sh!t outta me

 

[Adrian]

all our signings so far are just back ups. giannichedda isnt great. he is a versitile back up player. kovac is just back up as well.

our defence needs back up and a world class right back, something zebina isnt.

our midfield needs a creative midfielder, UNLESS capello is going to play cassano or mutu as the playmaker behind the forwards. If that happens, then we can start saying that having Emerson and one of appiah, tacchinardi, blasi or giannichedda is fine because they would be soley defending the midfield and dont have to offer much offensively at all...alla tacchinardi, davids and zidane days.

 

[sallyinzaghi]

++ [ originally posted by Torkel ] ++

Just to respond to this; I think there are many more. Gianchedda is barely an upgrade on Tacchinardi, I would rather go with Appiah.

thank you.

 

[Togon]

++ [ originally posted by Sir Sebastian ] ++


zebina the best defender in the world?

I didnt say that!:groan:

please read more carefuly:

"while Zebine showed that he is one, if not the best defender in the world considering the athletical capabilities (and he linked with Camo nicely.)"



he is, and he linked nicely as he was on of the factors behind Camoranesis excellent season.

++ [ originally posted by Adrian ] ++
all our signings so far are just back ups. giannichedda isnt great. he is a versitile back up player. kovac is just back up as well.

our defence needs back up and a world class right back, something zebina isnt.

our midfield needs a creative midfielder, UNLESS capello is going to play cassano or mutu as the playmaker behind the forwards. If that happens, then we can start saying that having Emerson and one of appiah, tacchinardi, blasi or giannichedda is fine because they would be soley defending the midfield and dont have to offer much offensively at all...alla tacchinardi, davids and zidane days.

Zebina again, he is class. He played in a system he didnt played the last couple of years and he did fine, he is a huge athlete, some non italian, quite reliable analysis just described him as the defender with "fearsome athletical capabilities" (or something like that)

His speed and strenght will be more and more vital as Canna and Thuram gets older.

by the way i wouldnt be surpiresed to see three central defs regularely next season.

just calculating with the current forwards we have right now it is more than probable that 3 of them will be on the pitch. (DP, Trez, Zlatan, Mutu, Zala). So two dm-cm is needed, for that role there is not much better pair than Emo and Giannichedda who is so much underrated by most of juvefans, i donno why. He is a class dm and can play cd as well, he can pass within the range of 20 m and for his role its more than enough.

------------------Gigi

--- Zebina--Thuram---Canna


---------------------------------------Zambro

Camo--------Emo---Ghianni


-----------------------------------Mutu

-----------------------Zlatan

----------------Trez


Mutu plays kinda Delvecchio from the champion roma side, creating lot of crosses and corners.

with Cass its even better

 

[Adrian]

i cant see giannichedda being that player to be honest. going back 3 or seasons ago, yes, he is good enough but now i just think his time has passed, just like tacchinardi. in his dyas he was very good.

as for zebina, no one doubts his strength, height and speed, but i think we can all agree that his brain isnt world class when it comes to football. not being overally critical, but he does make a lot more mistakes when compared to other defenders.

Your line up is world class, but you can see that zebina and giannichedda would be the weakest links. For Serie A, we would get away with it but playing against the best in europe i think it may cause problems.

 

[giovanotti]

++ [ originally posted by Togon ] ++


I didnt say that!:groan:

please read more carefuly:

"while Zebine showed that he is one, if not the best defender in the world considering the athletical capabilities (and he linked with Camo nicely.)"



he is, and he linked nicely as he was on of the factors behind Camoranesis excellent season.





Zebina again, he is class. He played in a system he didnt played the last couple of years and he did fine, he is a huge athlete, some non italian, quite reliable analysis just described him as the defender with "fearsome athletical capabilities" (or something like that)



by the way i wouldnt be surpiresed to see three central defs regularely next season.

just calculating with the current forwards we have right now it is more than probable that 3 of them will be on the pitch. (DP, Trez, Zlatan, Mutu, Zala). So two dm-cm is needed, for that role there is not much better pair than Emo and Giannichedda who is so much underrated by most of juvefans, i donno why. He is a class dm and can play cd as well, he can pass within the range of 20 m and for his role its more than enough.


with Cass its even better

Athlete or not we need someone more confidential behind.
With 3 central defs we will allow more goals,we need to play with 2 backs and 2 central defs,I think.

And for me is the great question is who will leave us if Cass arrive,because someone is going to leave in that case,that's for sure (DP,Trez,Ibrahim,Zala,Mutu,Cass )

 

[DelpieroForLife]

++ [ originally posted by Togon ] ++


I didnt say that!:groan:

please read more carefuly:

"while Zebine showed that he is one, if not the best defender in the world considering the athletical capabilities (and he linked with Camo nicely.)"



he is, and he linked nicely as he was on of the factors behind Camoranesis excellent season.





Zebina again, he is class. He played in a system he didnt played the last couple of years and he did fine, he is a huge athlete, some non italian, quite reliable analysis just described him as the defender with "fearsome athletical capabilities" (or something like that)

His speed and strenght will be more and more vital as Canna and Thuram gets older.

by the way i wouldnt be surpiresed to see three central defs regularely next season.

just calculating with the current forwards we have right now it is more than probable that 3 of them will be on the pitch. (DP, Trez, Zlatan, Mutu, Zala). So two dm-cm is needed, for that role there is not much better pair than Emo and Giannichedda who is so much underrated by most of juvefans, i donno why. He is a class dm and can play cd as well, he can pass within the range of 20 m and for his role its more than enough.

------------------Gigi

--- Zebina--Thuram---Canna


---------------------------------------Zambro

Camo--------Emo---Ghianni


-----------------------------------Mutu

-----------------------Zlatan

----------------Trez


Mutu plays kinda Delvecchio from the champion roma side, creating lot of crosses and corners.

with Cass its even better

3 Men deffence with Zebina one of them is more than enoygh to destroey next season...

 

[- vOnAm -]

Zebina is very athletic for his Size.....I am satisfied at his performances in 1st season of Juve. sure he lacks acceleration to cover pacey wingers but any player of his size would too.

I think we can do well with our back four for this next season, but we do need more depth and quality in our back-up.

 

[ZhiXin]

++ [ originally posted by - vOnAm - ] ++
Zebina is very athletic for his Size.....I am satisfied at his performances in 1st season of Juve. sure he lacks acceleration to cover pacey wingers but any player of his size would too.

I think we can do well with our back four for this next season, but we do need more depth and quality in our back-up.

Zebina is heavily underrated. His performance r ok for me, and his performance against Roma away is the match in which I watched a professional Zebina in action. However his lack of concentration is 1 thing which irritates me, and the Zola goal in cagliari proves this. I only hope that Zebina will learn how to become more concentrated mentally.

 

[Mr. Gol]

Agreed. There is no need for buying another right back. A offensive one is useless as Camoranesi already makes runs down the right flank.

 

[Chxta]

Now this is probably the most controversial thread around these parts in quite a while...

 

[Chxta]

++ [ originally posted by Togon ] ++


I didnt say that!:groan:

please read more carefuly:

"while Zebine showed that he is one, if not the best defender in the world considering the athletical capabilities (and he linked with Camo nicely.)"



he is, and he linked nicely as he was on of the factors behind Camoranesis excellent season.





Zebina again, he is class. He played in a system he didnt played the last couple of years and he did fine, he is a huge athlete, some non italian, quite reliable analysis just described him as the defender with "fearsome athletical capabilities" (or something like that)

His speed and strenght will be more and more vital as Canna and Thuram gets older.

by the way i wouldnt be surpiresed to see three central defs regularely next season.

just calculating with the current forwards we have right now it is more than probable that 3 of them will be on the pitch. (DP, Trez, Zlatan, Mutu, Zala). So two dm-cm is needed, for that role there is not much better pair than Emo and Giannichedda who is so much underrated by most of juvefans, i donno why. He is a class dm and can play cd as well, he can pass within the range of 20 m and for his role its more than enough.

------------------Gigi

--- Zebina--Thuram---Canna


---------------------------------------Zambro

Camo--------Emo---Ghianni


-----------------------------------Mutu

-----------------------Zlatan

----------------Trez


Mutu plays kinda Delvecchio from the champion roma side, creating lot of crosses and corners.

with Cass its even better

I've heard of Xmas tree formations and some other sorts of scheisse that coaches do, but this is... ridiculous!