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Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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We make our own grappa, too. Quite good.
dad wanted to make his own Limoncello and sell it; then he found out lemon trees don't grow very well in Northern Europe so he stuck to brewing his own beer
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Andy stop using the "Had it been Del Piero" argument.
I will use it until you look at things objectively. Stating it is even partly Zlatan's fault for his injury is absolute madness, and if Del Piero was in the same position you would not have the same opinion. You are obviously biased against Ibrahimovic in this case I'm afraid, and in many others.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I will use it until you look at things objectively. Stating it is even partly Zlatan's fault for his injury is absolute madness, and if Del Piero was in the same position you would not have the same opinion. You are obviously biased against Ibrahimovic in this case I'm afraid, and in many others.
Look dear, Zlatan turned directly towards Materazzi just before the tackle. If that's not stupid I don't know what is. So yes, I do believe that Zlatan's stupidity hurt him.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Look dear, Zlatan turned directly towards Materazzi just before the tackle. If that's not stupid I don't know what is. So yes, I do believe that Zlatan's stupidity hurt him.
I do not see why turning directly towards Materazzi even matters...whether he was facing him or had his back to him does not really matter..it's still a terrible challange. All I remember is Zlatan pushing the ball to his right away from Materazzi and the latter sliding malitiously in with both feet...how is that Zlatan's fault?? Perhaps if Zlatan provoked Mata the moment before the tackle it would be partly his fault, however he was just running at the Inter defense. No matter how you look at it, there is nothing wrong with taking on defenders. This discussion is absolutely ridiculous, Seven.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I do not see why turning directly towards Materazzi even matters...whether he was facing him or had his back to him does not really matter..it's still a terrible challange. All I remember is Zlatan pushing the ball to his right away from Materazzi and the latter sliding malitiously in with both feet...how is it Zlatan's fault. Perhaps if Zlatan provoked Mata the moment before the tackle it would be partly his fault, however he was just running at the Inter defense. No matter how you look at it, there is nothing wrong with taking on defenders. This discussion is absolutely ridiculous, Seven.
You don't get it. When Zlatan comes sliding in you actually see Zlatan turning directly towards him. That's not exactly trying to avoid injury.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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I do not see why turning directly towards Materazzi even matters...whether he was facing him or had his back to him does not really matter..it's still a terrible challange. All I remember is Zlatan pushing the ball to his right away from Materazzi and the latter sliding malitiously in with both feet...how is it Zlatan's fault. Perhaps if Zlatan provoked Mata the moment before the tackle it would be partly his fault, however he was just running at the Inter defense. No matter how you look at it, there is nothing wrong with taking on defenders. This discussion is absolutely ridiculous, Seven.
Seven's famous question will now pop up, I take it you don't play football?
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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You don't get it. When Zlatan comes sliding in you actually see Zlatan turning directly towards him. That's not exactly trying to avoid injury.
No one is getting your theory except you, your brother and your other two brothers.
 

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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You don't get it. When Zlatan comes sliding in you actually see Zlatan turning directly towards him. That's not exactly trying to avoid injury.
But that's not exactly trying to OBTAIN injury either. I can't believe you actually play football, Seven. If you follow such rules yourself and never take any risks you must be a liability out on the pitch...real players sacrifice their bodies for the team. And I also doubt Zlatan even had the time to see the two-footed tackle coming..
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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But that's not exactly trying to OBTAIN injury either. I can't believe you actually play football, Seven. If you follow such rules yourself and never take any risks you must be a liability out on the pitch...real players sacrifice their bodies for the team. And I also doubt Zlatan even had the time to see the two-footed tackle coming..
Actually I get kicked down all the time. I do try to avoid injuries though. Of course he didn't try to obtain an injury, but a pro like Zlatan should have know that faking a shot and turning directly towards Materazzi's tackle was not the right option.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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Actually I get kicked down all the time. I do try to avoid injuries though. Of course he didn't try to obtain an injury, but a pro like Zlatan should have know that faking a shot and turning directly towards Materazzi's tackle was not the right option.
Players make mistakes but cannot be blamed for their injuries.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Players make mistakes but cannot be blamed for their injuries.
I only blamed him partially. Materazzi should have been sent off for his horrendous tackle, like I said.
 

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