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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
Given Seven's talent of being a liar I wouldn't be surprised if he wrote that e-mail himself. Anyhow, even if Sergio does not blame you..I do .. I know your intentions ... I also know that on the anniversary of the London Underground Bombings or on the anniversary of the Pope's birthday you will post another 'critique' of London's underground of the Roman Catholic Church even though you have 364 OTHER days to do it.
Why? Because no one would give you the time of day ... WHy? Because there is no point to your criticism. Its just done to get you some attention.
Yet I didn't say ANYTHING about those subjects yet. Not even on the days they took place. If I wanted to get some attention, don't you think I would have done so? Not much of an argument there Nick :howler:.

And I've written it myself? :howler:
 

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Tom

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++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
Just drop it or better drop dead. There is a respectful an classy way to get one's opinion across...both of these 'terms' are obviously absent in your proverbial dictionary.

You don't see anything disprespectful about calling it 'bollocks' and stating that religion or the bible is the end result of people having too much time on their hands?? And of course the last HOWLER smiley when refering to Christ is not disrespectful and just oozes with class right Tommy Boy??

There is a difference between making an opinion and be-littlement .... Some may believe that the Royal Family is the biggest load of horsesh*t or that the Koran is b.s. however there are respectful ways to do it and then there is YOUR WAY.

P.S. Other groups have also fought under this "freedom of expression" banner and claim that their RIGHT TO AN OPINION is the 'raison d'etre' of their movements...they claim the don't be-little other races and cultures but rather state an opinion which they state is the truth...
.they are known as the Aryan Nation, the Klu Klux Klan and the Neo-Nazi skinheads.
Oh I'm not bothered about being respectful and classy, and you're hardly one to talk on class anyway, as its been pointed out before. You're about as classy as Jodie Marsh at the end of a 10 hour bender.

I just happen to think people take offence far too easily in life, and especially on these boards. People can criticise and laugh off my beliefs all day long, I couldn't give a shit. If people are offended by the quotes your lapdog posted then so be it, thats their problem not mine. Its a free world apparently.

As for your last point about the KKK et al, do you really think comparing me to them is making any sense. Do I murder people on the grounds of race or religion? Do I go about torturing people because of their beliefs? No. I simply state on an online forum that I believe all religions are complete bullcrap. Spot the subtle difference there or is it, as ever way over your head.
 
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IncuboRossonero

IncuboRossonero

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    ++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


    Yet I didn't say ANYTHING about those subjects yet. Not even on the days they took place. If I wanted to get some attention, don't you think I would have done so? Not much of an argument there Nick :howler:.

    And I've written it myself? :howler:
    Did you notice the word WILL...and not DID POST. I am saying you will probably open your big mouth on another dreadful anniversary just to get some attention....as was your intention with the 9/11 post.

    P.S. Know when to use certain smileys. Example:

    Andy's post in the SEVEN AGAINST THE WORLD thread demonstrated that you and your 'BROTHER' are the same person...you shot yourself in the mouth :howler:

    Example #2: Its not a LUNAR ECLIPSE its Pado standing directly in front of the lamp :cheesy:
     
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    IncuboRossonero

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    Oh I'm not bothered about being respectful and classy, and you're hardly one to talk on class anyway, as its been pointed out before. You're about as classy as Jodie Marsh at the end of a 10 hour bender.
    You are the one that started on how your post was not be-littlement. Guess what buddy....not respecting one's beliefs and laughing at them is be-littlement.

    WHAT DON'T YOU GET ABOUT THAT?

    ++ [ originally posted by Tom ] ++

    I just happen to think people take offence far too easily in life, and especially on these boards. People can criticise and laugh off my beliefs all day long, I couldn't give a shit. If people are offended by the quotes your lapdog posted then so be it, thats their problem not mine. Its a free world apparently.
    Exactly, you couldn't give a sh*t because you can't respect other people's beliefs...
    saying "there is no evidence Christ existed" IS NOT WHAT YOU DID. So don't try to paint your obnoxious post as something its not. You laughed at the thought people are dumb enough to believe he is the saviour of humanity ..followed by your ever so clever SMILEY.
    You lacked basic human respect...in some nations including your own that is a 'fundamental right' protected to the utmost degree.

    ++ [ originally posted by Tom ] ++

    As for your last point about the KKK et al, do you really think comparing me to them is making any sense. Do I murder people on the grounds of race or religion? Do I go about torturing people because of their beliefs? No. I simply state on an online forum that I believe all religions are complete bullcrap. Spot the subtle difference there or is it, as ever way over your head.
    Not all KKK members Kill..not all Skin heads beat people senseless..some just rant and rave and others just can't seem to accept other cultures, races and religions and go the extra step. They ridicule them in the process

    Sound familiar? :lazy:

    (P.S. I didn't out and out say you are one...I'm just trying to show how comments like that are not merely people being 'too touchy and feely' and never mind whether you ever so cool 'don't give a sh*t'. Views and mentalities like these create groups the world can do without)
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
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    ++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++


    Did you notice the word WILL...and not DID POST. I am saying you will probably open your big mouth on another dreadful anniversary just to get some attention....as was your intention with the 9/11 post.

    P.S. Know when to use certain smileys. Example:

    Andy's post in the SEVEN AGAINST THE WORLD thread demonstrated that you and your 'BROTHER' are the same person...you shot yourself in the mouth :howler:

    Example #2: Its not a LUNAR ECLIPSE its Pado standing directly in front of the lamp :cheesy:
    I noticed the word "will", but you didn't understand me. Wouldn't it have been far more upsetting to say something on the day it happened rather than the anniversary? It's pretty clear that I didn't and therefore I'm not looking for attention.
     

    Tom

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    ++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
    You are the one that started on how your post was not be-littlement. Guess what buddy....not respecting one's beliefs and laughing at them is be-littlement.
    WHAT DON'T YOU GET ABOUT THAT?
    What I don't get is your grasp of the english language. My definition of belittlement is certainly different from yours. How is saying jesus christ is a load of horse shit belittlement. How is saying I think the koran is a complete load of tosh belittlement. How is someone saying I/you are a disrespectful prick belittlement. One person does not have the power to belittle another on an internet forum, and its debatable in real life also. It takes a very weak person to feel belittled by those comments, and as classless, arrogant and irritating you are (online anyways) I don't take you for a weakling.

    ++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
    Exactly, you couldn't give a sh*t because you can't respect other people's beliefs...
    saying "there is no evidence Christ existed" IS NOT WHAT YOU DID. So don't try to paint your obnoxious post as something its not. You laughed at the thought people are dumb enough to believe he is the saviour of humanity ..followed by your ever so clever SMILEY.
    You lacked basic human respect...in some nations including your own that is a 'fundamental right' protected to the utmost degree.
    I laughed because, yeah I find it amusing that people devote their entire lives to following something that is blatantly not real. Not one shroud of evidence has ever been produced to offer the slightest glimmer that christ/god exist yet people follow it to the grave, in my view wasting their life. If they want to do that, fine I respect that choice but there's nothing stopping me disagreeing with it, just as there's nothing stopping them saying I'll go to hell or whatever..

    ++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
    Not all KKK members Kill..not all Skin heads beat people senseless..some just rant and rave and others just can't seem to accept other cultures, races and religions and go the extra step. They ridicule them in the process

    Sound familiar? :lazy:

    (P.S. I didn't out and out say you are one...I'm just trying to show how comments like that are not merely people being 'too touchy and feely' and never mind whether you ever so cool 'don't give a sh*t'. Views and mentalities like these create groups the world can do without)
    No it doesn't sound familiar because I don't rant and rave about it. I talk about it at times, did today at work actually but thats beside the point.. I certainly don't rant and rave.. in my experience the only people that rant and rave on religious issues are the religious fanatics that are causing the downfall of this planet gradually.
     
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    What I don't get is your grasp of the english language. My definition of belittlement is certainly different from yours. How is saying jesus christ is a load of horse shit belittlement. How is saying I think the koran is a complete load of tosh belittlement. How is someone saying I/you are a disrespectful prick belittlement. One person does not have the power to belittle another on an internet forum, and its debatable in real life also. It takes a very weak person to feel belittled by those comments, and as classless, arrogant and irritating you are (online anyways) I don't take you for a weakling.



    I laughed because, yeah I find it amusing that people devote their entire lives to following something that is blatantly not real. Not one shroud of evidence has ever been produced to offer the slightest glimmer that christ/god exist yet people follow it to the grave, in my view wasting their life. If they want to do that, fine I respect that choice but there's nothing stopping me disagreeing with it, just as there's nothing stopping them saying I'll go to hell or whatever..



    No it doesn't sound familiar because I don't rant and rave about it. I talk about it at times, did today at work actually but thats beside the point.. I certainly don't rant and rave.. in my experience the only people that rant and rave on religious issues are the religious fanatics that are causing the downfall of this planet gradually.
    I don't need to say a thing..you shoot yourself in the foot and prove my point with your every post.

    Stating that "the Catholic Religion is bullsh*t and the horsesh*t and implying people are morons with too much time on their hands AND ending off by laughing at the notion of Jesus Christ" is not belittlement?? What more do you want???
    You are not only disagreeing you are going the extra step not to show why they are wrong but to make fun of them ... basically failing to respect what others believe..the way others live and the way others choose to lead their lives.

    BE-LITTLEMENT:

    To treat something or someone as unimportant, or of little or no significance; to speak or write disparagingly about it or them.
     
    Sep 15, 2005
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    To Tom's defence here:

    1) In all probability Jesus, the foundation of our Catholic belief, was no more than a mere thug. He was some sort of gang leader, who wasn't accepted by the Jews nor the Romans and founded his own religion. Christianity started out as a sect and in a lot of things still is one. So the notion of Jesus Christ is ridiculous to say the least.

    2) I don't think we should go easy on Catholics or the pope. The previous pope is responsible for a lot of deaths by forbidding things like condoms. As a whole the Catholic church is one awful bloody mess. I for one am not proud of what our Church has done in the past.

    3) People only are religious because they're scared. They only believe in afterlife because they want to. As far as I know Christianity was still made by people and doesn't originate from some divine act. So please, Nick, let's keep things real here.

    On the other hand, Tom, it's not a proven fact they're wrong either. Agreed, chances they're right are fairly low, yet you can't know for sure. So saying that they throw their lives away is uncalled for, because you can't know for sure.
     

    Tifoso

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    Can you PLEASE ban this guy? He has stepped over the line. Completely.
    If he is allowed to post such inflammatory carp, then there are no forum rules.:down:

    I have stood by (mostly) quietly, while he has bashed my President, my country and my fellow citizens....

    now he is bashing my God. Enough.
     
    Sep 15, 2005
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    I'm "bashing" your God? HAVE YOU READ MY POST?

    FFS, I even said no one could say you're wrong, because no one knows. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with some of you? People can disagree you know. Besides, the things I said in my post were true, if you're going to deny that you're close to being an imbecile. I never bashed you, your religion or your god, you obnoxious prick.
     

    Tifoso

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    ++ [ originally posted by Centrocampista ] ++
    I'm "bashing" your God? HAVE YOU READ MY POST?

    FFS, I even said no one could say you're wrong, because no one knows. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with some of you? People can disagree you know. Besides, the things I said in my post were true, if you're going to deny that you're close to being an imbecile. I never bashed you, your religion or your god, you obnoxious prick.
    Have you read your post?

    I'd get into a battle of wits with you, but you are so obviously unarmed. :)
     

    Bjerknes

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    Don't even bother with the guy, Lou. All of his points were grossly misconstrued and have little factual backing...especially when you look at point three in which he labels us all "scared."

    In all probability Jesus was the greatest human being to ever walk this Earth...he could do no wrong and loved everybody with equal compassion. Calling Jesus a thug or a gang leader just because he broke away from traditional Jewish beliefs obviously points to lack of understanding and misconception of facts...or perhaps sheer stupidity.

    And saying the Pope is responsible for thousands of deaths is quite simply laughable...he does not hold a gun to your head saying "do not wear a condom" and he's not the one who made you become infected with AIDS. All these supposed arguments are terribly biased I'm afraid.
     

    Tifoso

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    ++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
    Don't even bother with the guy, Lou. All of his points were grossly misconstrued and have little factual backing...especially when you look at point three in which he labels us all "scared."

    In all probability Jesus was the greatest human being to ever walk this Earth...he could do no wrong and loved everybody with equal compassion. Calling Jesus a thug or a gang leader just because he broke away from traditional Jewish beliefs obviously points to lack of understanding and misconception of facts...or perhaps sheer stupidity.

    And saying the Pope is responsible for thousands of deaths is quite simply laughable...he does not hold a gun to your head saying "do not wear a condom" and he's not the one who made you become infected with AIDS. All these supposed arguments are terribly biased I'm afraid.
    You're right, amico mio.

    Don't know why he's allowed to post his drivel again and again, though.
    I mean, he screams, "ban me", IMHO.

    I can not remember any other member causing these kinds of bad feelings here, and still being here.
     

    Tifoso

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    ++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
    Interesting... Something gets a reaction from Lou... About time...
    I'm a big believer in forbearance, especially when dealing with the "virtual" human beings that we all are in cyperspace. :)
     

    swag

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    ++ [ originally posted by Centrocampista ] ++
    I never bashed you, your religion or your god, you obnoxious prick.
    You may want to read this sentence again, Centrocampista. And think this time. You're going to get a lot of time to read it again and again and not do much else on this forum with this account.

    I was honestly about to hold off on the inflammatory religious remarks. Some difference of opinion is certainly valid to discuss, even if it's going to cause others to get seriously agitated who hold certain beliefs dearly. But what's not valid is to lay those counterpoints out with the clear intent for disrespect of others' beliefs. And then personal attacks like the one I quoted...

    Is it so hard to debate a different point of view but to do it respectfully?

    Apparently so... :(
     

    swag

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    ++ [ originally posted by Tom ] ++...
    I laughed because, yeah I find it amusing that people devote their entire lives to following something that is blatantly not real. Not one shroud of evidence has ever been produced to offer the slightest glimmer that christ/god exist yet people follow it to the grave, in my view wasting their life. If they want to do that, fine I respect that choice but there's nothing stopping me disagreeing with it, just as there's nothing stopping them saying I'll go to hell or whatever..
    Tom -- and I entirely mean this respectfully -- it sounds as if you don't recognize that your own personal metaphysics is akin to a religious belief in itself. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. And the opposite of a deep belief in some higher being isn't atheism, it's probably more like agnosticism. And your impassioned responses indicate anything but apathy about this subject. You're as much a religious zealot as they come.

    In other words, to the casual observer you make it quite clear that you've got your own jihad going on, brother.

    What it seems that you fail to comprehend here is that your choice of a religious belief system (or what you might dismiss as a lack thereof) or faith (or what you might dismiss as a lack thereof) has to be held to the same standard. Otherwise, you sound as you do now -- coming off with more than a complete air of smug superiority in how your belief system is naturally and unquestionably correct relative to everyone else's.

    Which, in this respect, puts you in the same camp as every Crusader who raped and pillaged Asia Minor in the name of Christ ... and every radical Muslim who believes so deeply in the superiority of their idea of Islamic law that they strap on homemade bombs to take out busloads of children in the name of Allah. Sure, nobody dies on this forum, but the very same sense of self-righteousness and superiority is there.

    And then you make these statements with a real streak of malice behind them. It isn't enough to respectfully disagree, you need to remind people of how your belief system is naturally superior to theirs. It isn't enough to let people mourn the death of their spiritual leader in silence, you have to open your mouth and let your superior opinion be known about how much the guy was a fraud in the middle of his eulogy.

    And then you wonder why people get bent out of shape at your responses. After all, they're the ones with the inferior belief system, right?
     

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