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Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
I think it would be a saltwater flood because the water would be pushed inwards from the Gulf of Mexico.
Oohh that's nasty.

My granparents had a farm which came under water in the great flood of '53. I remember in 1992 they finally tore down the last building (a stable) - salt was still coming out of the brick walls. Paint would scale off the walls and the 2nd floor (which was made of wood) had collapsed sometime during the 1980s

Entire cities were torn down and rebuilt from scratch after that flood :mute:
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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That is absolutely amazing. I did not even think of the consequences of a salt water flood. If the N.O. levies are indeed flooded the damage would be catastrophic, something this country has never seen before because very few cities are actually below sea level in the States. Not to mention the impact this storm will have on the oil industry...we already have sky-high gasoline prices.

And yeah, if Majed was here he could probably give us some insight on the city cuz I've never been there before.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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But in Louisiana, the problem is less about the water salinity and more about the number of EPA Superfund sites in the region. A little water influx, and you could walk from what was New Orleans to Baton Rouge on a flaming patch of creosote and coal tar. :yuck:

Call it a paved version of what's known as "Cancer Alley" here in the States. They just don't make enough typhoid shots to go around.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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The funny thing is though there is absolutely nothing to stop this storm from strengthening. Most Hurricanes that have made landfall thus far were in the process of weakening while hitting the coast because of water temperatures and other factors such as upper level winds. There is absolutely nothing to stop this storm from strengthening, even past the landfall hour.

When hurricanes strengthen even while making landfall, the storm becomes more tightly wrapped around the center and thus produces even stronger winds in the eye wall.
 

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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I would imagine it would gain some real strength from the relatively warm Mexican Gulf as opposed to the slightly colder Atlantic Ocean?

Also, are you familiar with Erik Larson's book "The meteorologist and the storm"? It tells the story of a hurricane racing towards Galveston on 8 september 1900 - it would destroy Galveston, allowing Houston to become Texas' most important city. Modern meteorologists found this particular hurricane was exceptional because it didn't lose strength while making landfall and the Mexican Gulf fuelled it immensely.

It's a really good read, I recommend it :thumb:
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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I knew about that, but didn't read the book. I really like Larson's writing style... even if he takes some fictional liberties to improve upon and mend together his fact-based storytelling.

Here on the Pac Coast we also don't have hurricanes (and not just because they'd be called "typhoons" instead ;) ) because the water is so damn cold... preventing the heat pump mechanisms of tropical storms from forming into something that nasty.
 

swag

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Though some might argue (myself included) that the modern day city of Houston, with nearly 2 million residents, is the worst American disaster/tragedy of all. :yuck:

As Howe Gelb once said in a song by Giant Sand, "You want a mystery? Pick up the phone book. And tell me ... what are all these people doing living around here?"
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
Though some might argue (myself included) that the modern day city of Houston, with nearly 2 million residents, is the worst American disaster/tragedy of all. :yuck:
Well, if you think Houston is a disaster, Detroit is the end of the world. :down:
 

swag

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I'd take Detroit, thank you very much. At least it has some salvageable history and character.

Houston has... err... uh.... let me think... astroturf and Enron?
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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Changing the subject a touch... but on the general idea of interesting local stories... there's a rather curious saga going on in SF these days.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/08/19/BAGV4EA9741.DTL&sn=002&sc=813

There's been a group of ski jump advocates who want to bring in 200 tons of snow from the nearby Sierra Nevada mountains, etc., to turn one of the steeper, more populous public streets, upper Fillmore Street (near the posh Pacific Heights area [think the Michael Keaton movie]), into a ski jump for a pretty sick event. :cool:

USA Olympic skiing gold medalist, Jonny Moseley (who lives across the Bay in Marin), a pretty wild guy to begin with, wants to celebrate his 30th birthday with it -- joining a bunch of Norweigan skiiers down the street and turning it into quite a general public event.

There have been cars on my block for the past couple of weeks with signs on them that say, "Ski Fillmore" and "Snowboard Fillmore" -- it took me a while to figure what that was all about. The Norwegian Consulate is apparently all over it with full support. :D (Martin will have to send my props.)

Of course, there are a bunch of neighborhood groups up in arms. But that's to be expected in local politics.

Erik: bring your snowshoes. ;)
 

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