Creep, you are officially full of shit.
You told Andy his opinion on the matter was irrelevant because he wasn’t born and lives on another continent. That is already debatable. By that logic, 90% of the British weren't born in WW 2 and their persistent hate for "ze Germans" is unjustified, all the more since the latter not only were made accounatble for their crimes but have also given up their old ways. Regardless : I was born, I am Italian, I know ppl who were directly affected, I live in Brussels and I certainly don’t need you to tell me if my take qualifies as relevant.
No one is claiming that Juve fans were all angels, just like no one thinks all scoucers were scum. As for who says the Juve fans were as guilty : many English I've talked to about the matter do. Part of your media do. Kenny Dalglish implied it. Nevermind the fact that the hooligans had already been breaking windows and causing trouble all afternoon, only needing an excuse to launch an attack. This is not an unusual reaction on your behalf : I've heard the same argument ("they started the shit") being used regarding the WC 98 riots in Marseille or Euro 2000 in Charleroi. It's either that or the fact that the local police is incapable of dealing with your thugs. It’s never you and clearly you would have your nuts set to fire rather than simply say "we are sorry".
The only thing the hooligans couldn't predict is that the wall would collapse. The Juve fans invaded the pitch AFTER the wall had collapsed, some in an attempt to save their lives and others because they wanted to take immediate revenge on the Pool fans. The pistol turned out to be a starting pistol. But why am I even trying to argue constructively with you : you’re gonna come back with the usual crap and crass direspect for anyone and anything. You deserve as much contempt as the Belgian state does for the mockery of a trial that was made on this tragedy.