Nick Against the World (61 Viewers)

Oct 26, 2004
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Question : why do Americans of Italian descent use the word "fratello" when addressing each other? No one says that in Italy, except perhaps abbey monks.
Basically it's a lame attempt of desperation to be part of a culture, that in reality they have next to No knowledge of or any real hope of ever being part of.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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One day you will get out of kindergarten, pass by Mr Men number 3 and actually read something aimed at adults little boy.

Then you will Understand
Come on, I was only kidding. :)
 
Dec 27, 2003
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Hey Angus, thanks for the explanation I guess.

Andy, the Thermopylae are the place were 300 Spartans famously resisted against 10 000 or so Persians for quite some time during the Median Wars. This didn't prevent the Persians from eventaully sacking Athens, but maybe you already knew it.
 
Jan 7, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Kaiser Franco ] ++
Hey Angus, thanks for the explanation I guess.

Andy, the Thermopylae are the place were 300 Spartans famously resisted against 10 000 or so Persians for quite some time during the Median Wars. This didn't prevent the Persians from eventaully sacking Athens, but maybe you already knew it.


as much as biased as i may be, you know thats more of a legend
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Kaiser Franco ] ++
Hey Angus, thanks for the explanation I guess.

Andy, the Thermopylae are the place were 300 Spartans famously resisted against 10 000 or so Persians for quite some time during the Median Wars. This didn't prevent the Persians from eventaully sacking Athens, but maybe you already knew it.
Yes Libero, I have heard of such a legend before. As I recall, that was the great battle between the Persian King Xerxes and the Spartan Leonidis, correct?
 

The Pado

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Jul 12, 2002
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Basically it's a lame attempt of desperation to be part of a culture, that in reality they have next to No knowledge of or any real hope of ever being part of.
Ooohhh, sounds like an attack.

Terribly inane, but thanks for spicing things up around here.
 

The Pado

Filthy Gobbo
Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Kaiser Franco ] ++
Question : why do Americans of Italian descent use the word "fratello" when addressing each other? No one says that in Italy, except perhaps abbey monks.

Just to be clear, I am an Italian-American, I don't call anybody "fratello" (never have), and the only person who calls me "fratello" is my friend from Bari, who has no American in him - just Italian - and he makes liberal use of the word.
 

Emma

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Mar 4, 2004
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Ooohhh, sounds like an attack.

Terribly inane, but thanks for spicing things up around here.
he has a point though. its the same with everyone.

French people I knew last year, they had jsut came here for uni. They started doing all the french things that the never really did at home. They started supporting french national team when when in france they actually supported England.

When I leave England I become more English.

Its just the way it is :D
 
Oct 26, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Kaiser Franco ] ++
Hey Angus, thanks for the explanation I guess.

Andy, the Thermopylae are the place were 300 Spartans famously resisted against 10 000 or so Persians for quite some time during the Median Wars. This didn't prevent the Persians from eventaully sacking Athens, but maybe you already knew it.
Ahh, A man of culture.

Slightly more detail ::

480 BC, Xerxes led the Persians (Medes) and invaded Greece. The Spartan king Leonidas, in charge of 7000 Greeks, was ordered to cut the advance of the Persian army at Thermopylae (in central Greece), a narrow strip of land between the sea and impassable mountains. The Persian army, 250,000 strong, attacked twice and was forced to retreat, due to the fact that the passage was so narrow that they could not fully deploy their force. However, an avaricious local farmer, Ephialtes, led a force of Persian infantry through a mountain passage and next morning they appeared behind the Greek lines. Leonidas ordered the rest of the army withdraw, and held the passage with 300 Spartans. As a true Spartan, he chose death over retreat; all 300 Spartans, including Leonidas, died, but held the Persians long enough to ensure the safe withdrawal of the rest of the Greek army.



Thermopyle is also a rather intriguing character in the best space opera ever written who also happens to share my very own forename
 

Vinman

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Jul 16, 2002
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Basically it's a lame attempt of desperation to be part of a culture, that in reality they have next to No knowledge of or any real hope of ever being part of.

Wow...I guess you know so much...

run along now, we dont want you to be late for your Mensa meeting.....
 

The Pado

Filthy Gobbo
Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Emma ] ++


he has a point though. its the same with everyone.

French people I knew last year, they had jsut came here for uni. They started doing all the french things that the never really did at home. They started supporting french national team when when in france they actually supported England.

When I leave England I become more English.

Its just the way it is :D
Not really. How could he have a valid point? He just arrived here and has no idea how much time we have spent in Italy or if our families have left Italy 10 years ago or 100 years ago. Nick, for example, lives in Rome. How can Angus say that Nick has no idea about Italian culture. I would wager that he has. Angus fails to make a valid point, only makes an assinine generalization.
 
Oct 26, 2004
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Ooohhh, sounds like an attack.

Terribly inane, but thanks for spicing things up around here.
Attack -- No not really, Just an observation which bares much fruit.

Inane? Hmm interesting. As the statement was neither extremely silly or lacking real meaning.

Maybe a new choice of word is in order, Councillor
 

The Pado

Filthy Gobbo
Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Angus Thermopyl ] ++


Attack -- No not really, Just an observation which bares much fruit.

Inane? Hmm interesting. As the statement was neither extremely silly or lacking real meaning.

Maybe a new choice of word is in order, Councillor

INANE : Meaning "without Intelligence", was in fact the proper word, Angus.
 

vitoria_Ally

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
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Ahh, A man of culture.

Slightly more detail ::

480 BC, Xerxes led the Persians (Medes) and invaded Greece. The Spartan king Leonidas, in charge of 7000 Greeks, was ordered to cut the advance of the Persian army at Thermopylae (in central Greece), a narrow strip of land between the sea and impassable mountains. The Persian army, 250,000 strong, attacked twice and was forced to retreat, due to the fact that the passage was so narrow that they could not fully deploy their force. However, an avaricious local farmer, Ephialtes, led a force of Persian infantry through a mountain passage and next morning they appeared behind the Greek lines. Leonidas ordered the rest of the army withdraw, and held the passage with 300 Spartans. As a true Spartan, he chose death over retreat; all 300 Spartans, including Leonidas, died, but held the Persians long enough to ensure the safe withdrawal of the rest of the Greek army.



Thermopyle is also a rather intriguing character in the best space opera ever written who also happens to share my very own forename
Our teacher used to finish lessons about that with the quote:
Go, tell the Spartans, stranger passing by,
That here, obedient to their laws, we lie.
 
Oct 26, 2004
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Angus fails to make a valid point, only makes an assinine generalization.
Asinine generalization... Hmm the words we like to play with.

So basically we are drawn to using as many different words for the same thing as possible without actually addressing the statement.

As I said, the statement allthough harsh has basis and as such is not "extremely silly" as you like to tell us in so many wondrous words.

Please enlighten me with a new and actually relevant word, Councillor
 
Oct 26, 2004
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INANE : Meaning "without Intelligence", was in fact the proper word, Angus.
The actual definition of Inane according to the leading English Dictionary is ::

Definition
inane [Show phonetics]
adjective
extremely silly or lacking real meaning or importance:


Which as i said is not relevant here
 

Emma

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Mar 4, 2004
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Not really. How could he have a valid point? He just arrived here and has no idea how much time we have spent in Italy or if our families have left Italy 10 years ago or 100 years ago. Nick, for example, lives in Rome. How can Angus say that Nick has no idea about Italian culture. I would wager that he has. Angus fails to make a valid point, only makes an assinine generalization.
im not talking about anyone in particular. but still in my experience he has a point.
 

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