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Vinman

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Sure, I antagonised a bit by saying it supposedly doesn't happen a few times, but you can see that in every serious post I referred to statistics and used exact figures. Jem83 was talking about human emotions the entire thread, Pado was joking away and Vinman was well being Vinman.
hey idiot...you were WRONG !!!








WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG !!!:rofl:
 

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L'autista
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Sorry, I got held up watching those kitchy foot-fetish videos on the web.

Crack is still the best way to stay thin. I know a guy who lost 70 pounds in his first 3 months of smoking.
Crack and whoring make an even greater diet plan when combined, btw.

Seven, I know it is extremely bold to say that an event could NEVER happen, but I'll say this: The crowd trouble we saw a Bergamo yesterday . . . Never in the USA. We have some crowd trouble of course, but when a small minority gets in the way of the masses who plunked down real cash for their match tickets, every rowdy gets his ass carried out of the stadium by 50 good citizens. DAT SHIT DON'T FLY IN DIS HERE BUSHTOPIA.
Well, we've seen people go apeshit after NBA championships for a number of years -- e.g., the Staples Center celebration after a Lakers title might as well be Mogadishu. That said, someone gets killed by a cop here and it's presumed a wrongful death will only result in a riot if race is involved. But at the stadiums? Never...

basing is cheaper and helps keep teh weight off just as good as crack
Speaking of which, do we know of any posters here from Denver that we haven't heard from in a while?

Burned, Headless Body Of Sex Offender Found
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/14548059/detail.html
 

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Oct 11, 2005
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Oh, blame Congress. Not that they don't play a role, but that's bureaucratic convenience at its finest.

One of my biggest complaints about Americans is that we live in a representative government, elect people in office (well, sometimes it actually gets counted ;)), and then blame our elected officials with 100% liability when hindsight shit happens and stuff gets f*cked up. It's just more of that us vs. them bullcrap mentality, when the truth is -- we are them. That's the whole frigging point of a representative democracy.

People will bitch and moan about their tax burden and refuse to support certain infrastructure investments through their congressmen, and then when the bridges and levies start collapsing it's all Congress' fault. Not that Congress shouldn't be impaled on spikes and spit at on a regular basis, but it's far too convenient and clean for a voting public to shirk all personal responsibility and roles for any of it. It's a complete cop out. It's a bit of the old saying, "You get the government you deserve." (Far less true in Darfur, of course, but much less of an excuse in the U.S.)

Katrina may have screwed over hundreds of thousands of people who were let down by their local, state, and federal governments. But the truth is they contributed to their own predicament and share some of the responsibility as well -- given who they voted for, measures they supported, where they influenced public policy for tax investments, and their personal level of engagement (or lack thereof) in public policy. (Oh man, am I starting to sounds like Seven by blaming the victims here? :shocked:)

Of course, for all my bitching about Americans, at least they're not like most Europeans -- who have only grown a cynical plaque to their psyches, where they've given up on even entertaining the possibility of influencing their fate.
The government has a responsibility to look after things such as infrastructure, it is a pretty important part of our country. As for people indirectly "asking for it", that is just about as easy as blaming congress but not a crazy as Jerry Falwell blaming the sin of New Orleans for Katrina. The truth is if the American people were willing to be more involved then the government wouldn't need to be as responsible. If the people don't care and the government doesn't care then shit falls apart. In reality the people, middle class and lower, can't afford to be educated what isn't directly affecting them at that particular moment. These people are faced with feeding their children while living paycheck to paycheck. So finding time to be aware of issues such as failing levees and then write their local congressman is a bit much to ask. When people cannot look after themselves, for whatever reasons, it is up to those elected to lead to look after those people. Whether it be community leaders, city councilmen, state delegates, congressional representatives or even the president. These elected leaders have an obligation to take care of such things, whether it's moving money around or raising taxes. If people were capable of looking out for their best interests, then there would be no need for government.
 

.zero

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The meth diet never hurt anyone, but there is a mild side effect, say good bye to the pounds but hello to looking ten years older.
word, i honestly think ppl glorify crack wayyy too much. what ppl dont understand is that meth is the coca-cola of all home-made problem solvers. :tup:
 

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L'autista
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The government has a responsibility to look after things such as infrastructure, it is a pretty important part of our country. As for people indirectly "asking for it", that is just about as easy as blaming congress but not a crazy as Jerry Falwell blaming the sin of New Orleans for Katrina. The truth is if the American people were willing to be more involved then the government wouldn't need to be as responsible. If the people don't care and the government doesn't care then shit falls apart. In reality the people, middle class and lower, can't afford to be educated what isn't directly affecting them at that particular moment. These people are faced with feeding their children while living paycheck to paycheck. So finding time to be aware of issues such as failing levees and then write their local congressman is a bit much to ask. When people cannot look after themselves, for whatever reasons, it is up to those elected to lead to look after those people. Whether it be community leaders, city councilmen, state delegates, congressional representatives or even the president. These elected leaders have an obligation to take care of such things, whether it's moving money around or raising taxes. If people were capable of looking out for their best interests, then there would be no need for government.
Nice post, E. I don't disagree with you. The people who live hand-to-mouth don't have the luxury of worrying about how state taxes are being spent in infrastructure investments and disaster preparedness.

That said, anyone who doesn't bother to even vote gets an immediate "shut up and sit down" reaction from me when it comes to their predicament. They're not even playing the game and expect the results to come out in their favor. This isn't Soviet Russia we've got going on here.

But then there are people of greater means, who spend much of their ample thought time about what brand of car gives them the proper carbon emissions offsets ... or who can bitch and moan loudly about the most intricate details of some politician's personal affairs or religious beliefs that doesn't fit their ideal (and yet has no real bearing on their ability to govern). There are far too many people in this lot who obsess over this crap and yet take no personal responsibility for how their government is run -- who fall into the convenient cop out of bitching about what the government did or did not do for them, as if they play no role or responsibility in all that.

That is the attitude that irks me. People who quickly bitch about "the government" but make no connection between themselves and government. As if government is some entity that's supposed to solve all our problems and feed us grapes while we sit on our fat asses watching reruns of Desperate Housewives.
 

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Nice post, E. I don't disagree with you. The people who live hand-to-mouth don't have the luxury of worrying about how state taxes are being spent in infrastructure investments and disaster preparedness.

That said, anyone who doesn't bother to even vote gets an immediate "shut up and sit down" reaction from me when it comes to their predicament. They're not even playing the game and expect the results to come out in their favor. This isn't Soviet Russia we've got going on here.

But then there are people of greater means, who spend much of their ample thought time about what brand of car gives them the proper carbon emissions offsets ... or who can bitch and moan loudly about the most intricate details of some politician's personal affairs or religious beliefs that doesn't fit their ideal (and yet has no real bearing on their ability to govern). There are far too many people in this lot who obsess over this crap and yet take no personal responsibility for how their government is run -- who fall into the convenient cop out of bitching about what the government did or did not do for them, as if they play no role or responsibility in all that.

That is the attitude that irks me. People who quickly bitch about "the government" but make no connection between themselves and government. As if government is some entity that's supposed to solve all our problems and feed us grapes while we sit on our fat asses watching reruns of Desperate Housewives.

I definitely agree on the no vote, no opinion issue. But the fact is that the "people of greater means" almost always come out on top, even though they bitch and wine about the government not helping them. They'r the ones who generally have good healthcare, housing insurance, and the means to right the proverbial ship should the worst happen. The problem is the people with less means always get screwed. Yet the government never seems to care or not care that much, as shown earlier this year when the 9th Ward of New Orleans recieved 9 inches of water in their streets. This was after the fact that several experts reported that the pumps in New Orleans were not able to stop flooding should a serious rain occur. What I am saying is that even though the wealthy seem to bitch and not do anything, it still does not mean we can't hold the government accountable for not upholding everyone's fundamental rights as Americans as summarized in the Preamble. (Promoting the general welfare and providing common defence)
 

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