Nick Against the World (43 Viewers)
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Oh, bloody hell 
Think of it as a form of mob mentality.. They preach towards what most people hold dear, their religion, and their rationale includes pure emotive language, that, unsurprisingly, works.. Now dont get me wrong, there are many, many Islamic leaders that are educated, that are intelligent, and are capable, but then again, there are also ones who preach for that 15 minutes of fame, or the power or I don't know what..
Think of it as a form of mob mentality.. They preach towards what most people hold dear, their religion, and their rationale includes pure emotive language, that, unsurprisingly, works.. Now dont get me wrong, there are many, many Islamic leaders that are educated, that are intelligent, and are capable, but then again, there are also ones who preach for that 15 minutes of fame, or the power or I don't know what..
Of all the things I've messed up this one must be the worst. I thought I had an exam tomorrow. Apparently I have it in three hours. I'm not going to do this one very well .
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Pah at least you realized in time. I once prepared thoroughly for an exam on a friday, only to realize it was on a thursday. 
that sucks, yoseppi.
@Seven: Yeah, you're boned
You see, it's more complicated than that. There's a lot nastiness going around within Islam right now. You, i.e. the "westerners" aren't the only people targeted by these people. They are determined to destroy everything and anything. Why? Maybe they want to return to the stone ages.
Here's what I'm talking about:
According to a report, the Saudi government has arrested more than 100 Qadianis allegedly involved in 'illegal activities’ in Jeddah. (Illegal here might mean simply 'praying’.) A 'trained group’ — office-bearers of the Qadiani Jama’at Jeddah — is accused of preaching Qadiani beliefs in and around the city. The 'hard-working’ Saudi intelligence agencies arrested 45 people not from secret underground cells or hideouts but when they were offering prayers openly some days ago. Interestingly, a majority of the arrested people are from India.
Until now, the Qadiani 'problem’ has been a Pakistani problem. The community was excommunicated in Pakistan by amending the 1973 Constitution. Thus, if a Qadiani says the kalima now he can be arrested. Pakistani passports categorise them as non-Muslims, but if someone were to ask Pakistan about the Qadiani religion, it would have a hard time proving how a Qadiani is a not a Muslim in Pakistan but is one in India. Pakistan excludes its non-Muslims, India does not exclude any Indian national. Therefore the Saudis have no way of knowing that an Indian Muslim is a Qadiani or not. For years it banned the Shias of Iran from doing Hajj. Now it is preening itself for catching a few Indians who are Muslims in their own country. This is ominous. Having declared the Shias as infidels, and warned that it may intervene in Iraq on the side of the Sunni minority which is infested with Al Qaeda, is Saudi Arabia now getting ready for 'Islamic cleansing’ all over the globe? *
- Daily Times
Here's what I'm talking about:
According to a report, the Saudi government has arrested more than 100 Qadianis allegedly involved in 'illegal activities’ in Jeddah. (Illegal here might mean simply 'praying’.) A 'trained group’ — office-bearers of the Qadiani Jama’at Jeddah — is accused of preaching Qadiani beliefs in and around the city. The 'hard-working’ Saudi intelligence agencies arrested 45 people not from secret underground cells or hideouts but when they were offering prayers openly some days ago. Interestingly, a majority of the arrested people are from India.
Until now, the Qadiani 'problem’ has been a Pakistani problem. The community was excommunicated in Pakistan by amending the 1973 Constitution. Thus, if a Qadiani says the kalima now he can be arrested. Pakistani passports categorise them as non-Muslims, but if someone were to ask Pakistan about the Qadiani religion, it would have a hard time proving how a Qadiani is a not a Muslim in Pakistan but is one in India. Pakistan excludes its non-Muslims, India does not exclude any Indian national. Therefore the Saudis have no way of knowing that an Indian Muslim is a Qadiani or not. For years it banned the Shias of Iran from doing Hajj. Now it is preening itself for catching a few Indians who are Muslims in their own country. This is ominous. Having declared the Shias as infidels, and warned that it may intervene in Iraq on the side of the Sunni minority which is infested with Al Qaeda, is Saudi Arabia now getting ready for 'Islamic cleansing’ all over the globe? *
- Daily Times
I remember living in Maryland for a couple of years. Everytime the weatherman uttered the "S" word on TV, the local Giant foodstore would be packed with freaked out locals stocking as if for a nuclear winter. All the bread, milk, beer, cigarettes, porn mags, and ammunition would be cleared from the shelves as if to ride out the next six months in a fall-out shelter. Standing in the checkout line, I would look at these people hoarding and stockpiling, wondering, "Did they just launch nukes from Moscow and I am just the last person to find out?"
Not to be all cocky about my Chicago upbringing with all the snow I grew up with, where nothing closed unless you got more than 8" of snow, but it was a freakish experience to say the least.
Love that last line, Andries.
I used to think that way. There is some value in having a higher court of arbitration that doesn't depend on divinity to resolve issues of dispute.
But at the same time, there's something elegant about the concept that no one person can rightfully lay claim that they are any better or truer believer/follower than you. Afterall, that centralized authority of the Catholic Church was responsible for enough deaths and persecution as it was.
But it's situations like this that get sticky for Islam...
But it's not just Islam either. Religion has been used as a tool for political or personal grudges for centuries.
Then you get things like Erik's great signature quote. Where's that line between an honest religion and a freakish cult? It's not that clear-cut, and you had better believe people take advantage of that fact all the time.
Not to be all cocky about my Chicago upbringing with all the snow I grew up with, where nothing closed unless you got more than 8" of snow, but it was a freakish experience to say the least.
Love that last line, Andries.
I used to think that way. There is some value in having a higher court of arbitration that doesn't depend on divinity to resolve issues of dispute.
But at the same time, there's something elegant about the concept that no one person can rightfully lay claim that they are any better or truer believer/follower than you. Afterall, that centralized authority of the Catholic Church was responsible for enough deaths and persecution as it was.
But it's situations like this that get sticky for Islam...
But it's not just Islam either. Religion has been used as a tool for political or personal grudges for centuries.
Then you get things like Erik's great signature quote. Where's that line between an honest religion and a freakish cult? It's not that clear-cut, and you had better believe people take advantage of that fact all the time.
A few years ago I went through a pretty bad injury which prevented me from playing football for months. A big blow, since I had taken a starting spot in one of the Djurgården youth teams. When I was back my stamina was lousy and I was put on the bench. With no motivation left, I quit club football.
The guy responsible for the injury, a former club and current class mate is now a very promising goal keeper in FM07, and I keep hearing how people on the internet have bought him to their Barcelona squads etc. Asshole.
The guy responsible for the injury, a former club and current class mate is now a very promising goal keeper in FM07, and I keep hearing how people on the internet have bought him to their Barcelona squads etc. Asshole.
You should have a stint abroad here in the US. Here at Penn State, professors give you awkward equations for temperature variation with respect to time at some station and expect you to find what the dimensions of the constants are. Fuck if I know.
Could be worse. The exams I get nowdays require my dropping my pants and turning to the left and coughing while someone wearing latex gloves searches for loose change.
umpkin:I'm taking this Aerospace Engineering class at school and today was the first day. Turns out the teacher is Italian; from Milano. I was totally surprised, because this place is a shit hole (Andy and Greg should know). My first question was if he was a Rossonero, to which he said "don't ever call me that! I'm a bianconero!" So I told him that I've been a Juve fan since I was like 6 and he says "You have an A, you can leave."
This class is gonna be fun
This class is gonna be fun
I'm taking this Aerospace Engineering class at school and today was the first day. Turns out the teacher is Italian; from Milano. I was totally surprised, because this place is a shit hole (Andy and Greg should know). My first question was if he was a Rossonero, to which he said "don't ever call me that! I'm a bianconero!" So I told him that I've been a Juve fan since I was like 6 and he says "You have an A, you can leave."
This class is gonna be fun
This class is gonna be fun
But to make sure I get the shit hole reference -- where is "this place" again?
Somewhat surprisingly to outsiders, I know of a few people sono di Milano who are juventini... and yet people from Torino who are milanisti. In any case, I trust you know what to wear to your mid-terms and finals.
But to make sure I get the shit hole reference -- where is "this place" again?
But to make sure I get the shit hole reference -- where is "this place" again?
Oh, the shit hole is Princess Anne, Maryland.
This Uni is pretty pathetic. The only thing we have to be 'proud' of is that the head coach of the Oakland Raiders, Art Shell went here and that UMES, along with U of Miami or "The U" as they call it, have provided the most players in a Superbowl.
Neither of which is anything to be proud of if you think about it. Art Shell lead the Raiders to the worst season ever in their history, and I believe even in the league (correct me if I'm wrong) and UMES no longer has a football team.
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No its not...most Juve fans are in the South...not in Milan and not in Torino. There seem to be more Inter fans in Milan except it's hard to tell because for the last 16 years they didn't really utter a word about the game.
Anyhow, for all their fans the Curva Nord still sucks both organization and choreography wise....two derbies ago their banner came apart at the seams...I guess they were trying to imitate the team
Anyhow, for all their fans the Curva Nord still sucks both organization and choreography wise....two derbies ago their banner came apart at the seams...I guess they were trying to imitate the team
You kidding me? Every Tuesday and Thursday, religiously
Oh, the shit hole is Princess Anne, Maryland.
Oh, the shit hole is Princess Anne, Maryland.
Beats now-Cornhusker coach Bill Callahan, a Raiders coach between Shell's days with them -- and who coached at Oak Lawn High School while I was a runt attending the grade school down the street.