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Martin

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BU group offers white scholarship

Clarissa Bottesini
Posted: 11/21/06


Looking to draw attention to what they call the "worst form of bigotry confronting America today," Boston University's College Republicans are circulating an application for a "Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship" that requires applicants be at least 25 percent Caucasian.

"Did we do this to give a scholarship to white kids? Of course not," the scholarship reads. "Did we do it to trigger a discussion on what we believe to be the morally wrong practice of basing decisions in our schools and our jobs on racial preferences rather than merit? Absolutely."

The scholarship, which is privately funded by the BUCR without the support of the university, is meant to raise awareness, group members say. BUCR member argue that racial preferences are a form of "bigotry." The group has a similar view on affirmative action.

The application for the $250 scholarship, due Nov. 30, requires applicants be full-time BU undergraduate students and one-fourth Caucasian and maintain at least a 3.2 cumulative GPA. Applicants must submit two essays, one describing the applicant's ancestry and one describing "what it means to you to be a Caucasian-American [Greg, they're using it already, we just invented it last night!] today."

BUCR President Joe Mroszczyk [that last name is more Polish than mine] said he spoke to Dean of Students Kenneth Elmore before publicly releasing the scholarship to make sure it would be legal. Mroszczyk said BUCR members also talked to others beforehand, some of whom were initially "agitated or upset" but understood the point after members explained themselves, he said.

"If you give out a white scholarship, it's racist, and if you give out a Hispanic scholarship, it is OK," the College of Arts and Sciences senior said. "It is the main point. We are not doing this scholarship as a white-supremacy scholarship."

La Fuerza Co-Chair Sara-Marie Pons, who is also on the Admissions Student Diversity Board, said although she agrees with BUCR's claim that racial preference is "contradictory to our American ideals of freedom and equality," she feels American history justifies today's affirmative action." Our country oppressed people of color for centuries while everyone else who was 'preferred' continued to succeed and lead our country in all aspects," the School of Management senior said in an email. "The goal of a university in striving to admit more students of color is a positive movement to increase the diversity of its institution."

Pons said the university's diversity creates a "better learning environment" and "dynamic discussion." She said she believes minority-specific scholarships serve an important function.

"While I can see the controversy over scholarships toward specific ethnic groups, we need to keep in mind its intention," she said. "The [group-specific] scholarship is there to increase the interest of students in that group to continue their education and reach the equality that we all strive for."

After the recipient is chosen, BUCR plans to host an event to honor the winner and speak about the award, as well as hold a forum discussion about racial preference, Mroszczyk said.

Mroszczyk said the BUCR borrowed the scholarship idea from the College Republicans at Roger Williams University in Bristol, R.I., which sponsored a similar award in 2003. Former RWU College Republicans President Jason Mattera said the "whites-only" scholarship was meant to be a parody, but it brought harsh media attention to their campus.

Mattera, now the Young American's Foundation National Spokesman, a group supporting the conservative movement, said the idea was spurred when RWU administrators "compiled a list of scholarships for people of color only." Although Mattera, a Puerto Rican, would have been eligible for some of these scholarships, he said he still wanted to "expose the inequities."

RWU College Republicans adviser June Speakman said the organization started receiving complaints as soon as it released the scholarship. Despite protests, 15 students applied for the scholarship.

"It was a way to make their protests highly visible, provocative," she said. "They stuck to their guns. They were steadfast."

Speakman said the scholarship was discontinued after its first year when the national and state Republican parties severed ties with RWU College Republicans.

Mattera said people were aware the scholarship had "nothing to do with racism," but the Republican National Committee still did not want to be affiliated with the scholarship.

"The RNC under [former chair] Ed Gillespie disagreed with me," Mattera said. "For Ed Gillespie to be dismissive or to imply that there was racism, he lacked any type of -- to put it bluntly -- balls in standing up against racial preferences. It would have been a great opportunity."

Regarding BU's adaptation of this scholarship, Mattera said he is glad the BUCR is interested in continuing to promote awareness.

"I guarantee that once this happens, be ready for hypocritical charges of racism, and be ready to be attacked," Mattera said, "but once they attack you, the hypocrisy is exposed."

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Vinman

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Andy said:
I always recall how more than just a few citizens of other countries besides the United States always blasted rappers for being worthless losels without any musical talent whatsoever. People such as Claire and Emma always stated performers such as Eminem, Dr. Dre, and Nas (well not Nas, because they've never heard of such a term in Kopland) have no talent because they don't make the "music," which is obviously incorrect as Eminem, Dr. Dre and Nas all make "music," whether lyrically or instrumentally through the use of different instruments. Pianos, keyboards and turnables are indeed classified as "instruments," people, whether you like it or not. Who the fuck wants to hear some overly obcessed punkass son of a drunkass pikee losel screaming about how gay he is. The rap industry may be rather overly advertised, however to write and produce such music still takes talent. If such imbeciles from other countries find it so easy to make hip hop hits in America, why aren't their fat rat ass' making such hits in this country? Oh thats right, they don't care about rap because it's too easy. Blow me world, and blow the world of hip hop. Rap is music and will always be music whether some Englishman who always gets the shit kicked out of him likes it or not.
I have had enough of rap, myself...

it doesnt take a brain surgeon to talk about bangin' broads, popping a cap into someone, how tough you are, etc, etc, etc........

the rap culture is generally one of negativity, and glorifying violence. Those messages get into the heads of teenagers, and that becomes one of the factors in their violent behavior.

I miss the old days of rap with Run Dmc, Doug E Fresh, and the Beastie Boys, when it wasnt all about negativity
 

swag

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Martin said:
Well, we all have our concept of what music is don't we. Certain types of music that are typically British I regard as total trash so.
Definitely agreed. A lot of people think opera is pure, laughable crap, and yet there's a lot of great subtlety, emotion, and force behind it if you bother to crack it. A lot of rap has the same issues, but a lot of rap is also just crap.

Anyway, it's really just about taste. Some people think Pink Floyd is great music, some think Ja Rule is.
:lol:

I really like some Pink Floyd, but my favorite album review of all time was for a Floyd live album in 1989: "Proof that you can't listen to a light show" So true. And as for Ja Rule, stick to acting, please. It's better than your singing career. :cool:

Vinman said:
I have had enough of rap, myself...

it doesnt take a brain surgeon to talk about bangin' broads, popping a cap into someone, how tough you are, etc, etc, etc........
Precisely. Unfortunately, there's a vicious cycle of stupidity that has afflicted much of rap. Ever since 2 Live Crew really tried to up the ante with how much they could insult bitches and hos and all the rap artists who went for one-upmanship over musicianship, much of the genre has become a one-dimensional self-parody. Creative and thoughtful artists like De La Soul and A Tribe Called Quest were deemed freaks and cast to the wayside as irrelevant, and the industry got all caught up with just feeding the male ego like a really bad Charles Bronson movie.

I miss the old days of rap with Run Dmc, Doug E Fresh, and the Beastie Boys, when it wasnt all about negativity
Amen, Vinman. There's a lot the genre has to offer. Unfortunately it's been dominated by a one-dimensional mindset where any room for artistic growth has been largely relegated only to the degree of hyperbole used.

And I'm Andy Rooney... Wayne's bastard uncle.
 

JCK

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I know that me and the Gregger share a common taste in music. Did you get the latest Thievery, by the way? I think it kicks ass in vivid colour.
 

Martin

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swag said:
Definitely agreed. A lot of people think opera is pure, laughable crap, and yet there's a lot of great subtlety, emotion, and force behind it if you bother to crack it. A lot of rap has the same issues, but a lot of rap is also just crap.
I've been meaning to see an opera for some time now, but I still haven't. I've been to a ballet once, that was nice.


Vin: They rap about bitches and bling because that's what sells. It's an established, successful platform, so why change it?


Greg: Don't bash Andy :(
 

JCK

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Martin said:
I've been meaning to see an opera for some time now, but I still haven't. I've been to a ballet once, that was nice.


Vin: They rap about bitches and bling because that's what sells. It's an established, successful platform, so why change it?


Greg: Don't bash Andy :(
Let us be more accurate, they are gangsters rapping about bitches and bling.
 

swag

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Martin said:
BU group offers white scholarship
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Looking to draw attention to what they call the "worst form of bigotry confronting America today," Boston University's College Republicans are circulating an application for a "Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship" that requires applicants be at least 25 percent Caucasian.

... "what it means to you to be a Caucasian-American [Greg, they're using it already, we just invented it last night!] today.".
:lol: What a load of crap. Sounds like a bunch of comfortable suburbanites who have minority envy.

I doubt 99% of them could identify the Caucasus area on a map. Talk about knowing your homeland roots. Unfortunately, "Caucasian-American" is a race no more than "People who retained pale skin despite generations of intercontinental f*cking" is a race.

I have to go back to a friend who got a scholarship to college in Texas because he qualified as 1/32nd Native American. He always went around calling everybody else, "Paleface." I think he owns an Indian gambling casino by now.

Jeeks said:
I know that me and the Gregger share a common taste in music. Did you get the latest Thievery, by the way? I think it kicks ass in vivid colour.
:agree:

Yep:

http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1122537#post1122537
 

swag

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Jeeks said:
Nice, I haven't seen this reply before.

Do you have any new releases to recommend?
No problem. I couldn't count the number of times people probably replied to me and I never again visited said thread.

Let me dig around through some newer releases. Recently I had a 250Gb network drive with nearly all my music on it fall into a "corrupt software mode" where it now thinks it only has one bogus file and 12.8Mb of total capacity on it.

Needless to say, I am a bit pissed that even under warranty I need to pay for disk recovery services unless I violate the warranty by cracking the thing open to manually hook up the drive. :(

Alas, my music collection has seen better days.
 

swag

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Martin said:
250gb for music? Get out of here. :D
All the more reason I think mp3 players like iPods are cute devices but will never keep up with the library I keep, so rules-based synchronization management is everything. :)
 

swag

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Jeeks said:
I understood from him that the drive is 250GB and all his music is there, it might not be all music; but if it is the case, swag, Get out of here :D
I used that network drive only for music. But alas -- even with a few FLAC-formatted selections, it's still only a little over 100Gb full (and still is, undoubtedly, even if I cannot access it all atm).
 

Martin

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swag said:
All the more reason I think mp3 players like iPods are cute devices but will never keep up with the library I keep, so rules-based synchronization management is everything. :)
The thing I don't get about iPod people is why they need 60gb of music _on them_. I mean you can change the contents of that drive, it is re-writable. I have a 1gb iriver and it's about 2-3x the space I actually need.

I suppose if you're going on a 4 week fact finding mission in inner Mongolia and you can't bring your laptop..
 

Martin

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swag said:
I used that network drive only for music. But alas -- even with a few FLAC-formatted selections, it's still only a little over 100Gb full (and still is, undoubtedly, even if I cannot access it all atm).
flac.. you're a purist eh :D
 

Bjerknes

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Martin said:
Well, we all have our concept of what music is don't we. Certain types of music that are typically British I regard as total trash so.

Anyway, it's really just about taste. Some people think Pink Floyd is great music, some think Ja Rule is. I think they're both absolutely useless, so whether you say they are 'real musicians' with no taste or talent or they are 'not real musicians', what's the difference?

Let's say one artist doesn't write music, doesn't play instruments and doesn't even perform in concert, just mimes it. While another writes all the music, plays an instrument and sings. If the result in both cases is that this music hurts my ears, what do I care how it's produced?


Personally, I don't think that much of rap, it's not really my thing. I like it for the musical qualities, which are very often secondary in rap, whereas I don't really care that much about the lyrics, unless they are exceedingly stupid. I like the genre in general, but I hear far more songs I don't like than those I do.
It's perfectly fine if people hate rap and hip hop... as you said it's primarly all about taste in music. But what does not make any sense is how some opponents of rap state that this genre has no musical talent whatsoever and should not even be considered as music. That's just a lame duck's poor attempt at demeaning something they hate for the purpose of looking superior.

And by the way, I totally agree with your statement about Pink Floyd and Ja Rule.. they're completely worthless.
 

Martin

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Btw your signature makes me think. You know how some people have a "warm personality"? Is that really such a good thing with global warming and all.. :undecide:
 

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