Nick Against the World (77 Viewers)

[Byrone]

bianconero had a go at Jeeks in another thread,cant remember which one but he looked for it.

 

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[Dominic]

And Jeeks was innocent in the matter..

 

[Byrone]

And Jeeks was innocent in the matter..

Could'nt care tbh Dom.

 

[Slagathor]

sorry, but maybe Holland doesnt risk the attack of a suitcase nuke, but places like NYC, Philly, and LA do...

Wrong. Terrorism in this part of the world dates back to the days of the Dutch Republic in the 1700s. More recently, in the 1970s the chances of finding yourself in a hijack situation when travelling with public transport were higher than winning the lottery, thanks to an ex-colony situation.

In the 1970s and the 1990s alike, terror attacks in their planning-phase were thwarted by the AIVD (our version of the CIA), some plans containing outlines of possibilities of attacks with biological and chemical weapons.

None of this is new.

so I would rather have a tighter government that keeps its citizens as safe as possible, than a lax one thats lets terrorists run around planning and committing mass murders using our constitution against us...thats just me though

There's a big difference between keeping your citizens safe, and stripping them of all their freedom. You can maintain an open and liberal society and counter terrorism at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive. Don't let your government tell you otherwise, they are usually just after more power.

 

[Vinman]

Wrong. Terrorism in this part of the world dates back to the days of the Dutch Republic in the 1700s. More recently, in the 1970s the chances of finding yourself in a hijack situation when travelling with public transport were higher than winning the lottery, thanks to an ex-colony situation.

In the 1970s and the 1990s alike, terror attacks in their planning-phase were thwarted by the AIVD (our version of the CIA), some plans containing outlines of possibilities of attacks with biological and chemical weapons.

None of this is new.



There's a big difference between keeping your citizens safe, and stripping them of all their freedom. You can maintain an open and liberal society and counter terrorism at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive. Don't let your government tell you otherwise, they are usually just after more power.

impossible...

the terrorists are smart enough to use that to their advantage

as it is right now, they are getting away with everything but an attack...but that is coming very soon

remember Erik, I work in law enforcement...I know what we can and cant do

 

[Slagathor]

bullshit...

the terrorists are smart enough to get around that..

remember Erik, I work in law enforcement...I know what we can and cant do

Well it's working fine for us

Or was until the Christian Democrat idiots turned all panicky and enforced weird laws on us...

 

[Vinman]

Well it's working fine for us

Or was until the Christian Democrat idiots turned all panicky and enforced weird laws on us...

I really dont believe you guys are under an imminent attack , like we are, and I hope it doesnt happen to you guys either

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

Are you saying that attacks on NYC and DC were not USA's business? Because that is what the discussion is about, terroristic attacks.

so what was the relation between iraq and 9/11?

 

[Respaul]

I really dont believe you guys are under an imminent attack , like we are, and I hope it doesnt happen to you guys either

Oh please.. Its allways so much bigger and so much more urgent when it involves america... Do you really think that all the european nations havent at points in their history lived in constant threat for year upon year or us and the spanish in daily threat from the ira and eta at their peaks for many many years not too mention whats going on now, yet none of thoses places have gone over the top like you have...

America is slowly becoming a dictatorship and a place to live in fear not in freedom...

You wanna live in a world like that.. fine, personally i'd rsather the european model, where basically everyone jus gets on with it ...

At the end of the day... terrorism cannot be beaten with enhanced security and turning the nation into a military state...

Whats next, enforced curfews, x-rays and searches at every turn... segregation and misstreatment of the various ethnic races within your country...

People are allready amongst you who would happily attack you, normal everyday people .. law abiding citizens... If they wanna do something they will, you nor anyone else can do anything about it...

You may foil the odd big plot, but you cant stop it... If anything you jus encourage more plots

We all wanna beat terrorism, but it needs to be done round a table not by seeing who has the biggest cock

 

[sateeh]

so what was the relation between iraq and 9/11?

we all know there wasnt any relation between those two....it was just becuz Bush had some other goals in mind....:coughil:cough:money for rebuilding:cough:

 

[Byrone]

Rob will u be online tonight? We should skype it up son,its been a while.

 

[Slagathor]

I really dont believe you guys are under an imminent attack , like we are, and I hope it doesnt happen to you guys either

Perhaps not right now but we've been there many times in the past and we will be again in the future. Turning your democracy into a dictatorship isn't the solution. This country (and many other European nations) has also already tried that too.

The measures being taken now don't fight terrorism, they fight only the last step of terrorism: execution of attacks. Allowing full body searches, x-rays, jailing without a charge and more is aimed to preventing the execution of plans, not destroying the actual roots of terrorism. These laws can never destroy terrorism and will, in the end, do more harm to the American people than any terrorist organisation will ever be possible of committing.

 

[Lilith]

My pc is the worst thing. Never lets me use Skype. It always freezes on me.

 

[/usr/bin]

My pc is the worst thing. Never lets me use Skype. It always freezes on me.

Get Linux.. It's a good thing

 

[Byrone]

Nawaf what kinda sleaze are u into?

 

[/usr/bin]

Nawaf what kinda sleaze are u into?

www.ubuntu.com

and if I feel really kinky:
http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/about-ubuntu-christian-edition.html

:eyebrows:

Matter of fact, I'm thinking of doing my own distro sometime in the near future... ChocoBuntu, anyone?

 

[Rami]

www.ubuntu.com

and if I feel really kinky:
http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/about-ubuntu-christian-edition.html

:eyebrows:

Matter of fact, I'm thinking of doing my own distro sometime in the near future... ChocoBuntu, anyone?

Bailing on Juvuntu already....??

 

[/usr/bin]

Bailing on Juvuntu already....??

I've always been a selfish person, Ramsi... Maybe I'll keep Juvuntu as a side project

 

[The Pado]

so what was the relation between iraq and 9/11?

Here is the relation . . . take notes:

11 September 2001 attacks were planned and carried out by a group of people that refuse to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior.

Iraq is home to millions of people who refuse to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior.

George W. Bush, as the freely-elected leader of Jesus Freaks Worldwide (JFW), had the duty to convert those savages and he is doing the lord's work. Mission Accomplished!.

 

[The Pado]

My pc is the worst thing. Never lets me use Skype. It always freezes on me.

Exactly why pc's need to be rounded up, interrogated and left in detention facility on a remote island until they start functioning properly.