Nick Against the World (78 Viewers)

Bozi

The Bozman
Administrator
Oct 18, 2005
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Enron said:
You guys should come through on top.:pint: Best of luck Rob.
i take nothing for granted when it comes to scottish football, especially after celtic went out to artmedia bratiswhothefuckareyou?
scottish clubs,like the natuional team, seem to struggle when they are afvourites, just as well we are lithuianian, aint it fli?

swag said:
Rob: don't forget the pair of pliers. Very important.
aye nobody gets them but me, i like to feel the snap:cry:
 

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The Pado

Filthy Gobbo
Jul 12, 2002
9,939
Bozi.78 said:
meh, she does not like me it seems, pity.....
never really got the chance to talk properly with her

That's for the best. She is very volatile. One minute I'm plowing her asshole and planting tobacco, and she's all "Oh The Pado, I was a virgin until I met you", and the next minute she's all "You Mo'fooker! Who drank the last beer? What the fook is this in my shoe? Go back to America you nancy boy."

So, it's a difficult love affair.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,750
The Pado said:
That's for the best. She is very volatile. One minute I'm plowing her asshole and planting tobacco, and she's all "Oh The Pado, I was a virgin until I met you", and the next minute she's all "You Mo'fooker! Who drank the last beer? What the fook is this in my shoe? Go back to America you nancy boy."

So, it's a difficult love affair.
And with that Pado has so eloquently summarized all you need to know about Claire. :lol2:
 

Rami

The Linuxologist
Dec 24, 2004
8,065
Seven said:
Zlatan's the kind of guy you just want to kick in the balls. What annoys me most about him is probably that he's considered "witty" by the more idiotic layer of society. People with an IQ below 100 seem to rate him very highly. Marrying someone and saying "What she got? She got Zlatan?" probably isn't all that witty, but simply illustrates Zlatan's lack of abstract thought. Referring to yourself in the 3rd person also doesn't make you look very bright. Would he be like that on trainings too? "Zlatan thinks you should have passed the ball to him. Zlatan's now very mad at oo (like those Furbies in the Simpsons).".
IF YA SMELLLLALALALALALALALALA WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING....*raises left eyebrow*
 

Bozi

The Bozman
Administrator
Oct 18, 2005
22,747
The Pado said:
That's for the best. She is very volatile. One minute I'm plowing her asshole and planting tobacco, and she's all "Oh The Pado, I was a virgin until I met you", and the next minute she's all "You Mo'fooker! Who drank the last beer? What the fook is this in my shoe? Go back to America you nancy boy."

So, it's a difficult love affair.
sounds like my ex, except for asshole read sister, for beer read ganjabis and american nacy boy read big mad scottish minge basher
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,327
The entire calciopoli trial seems like a cheap vendetta to me. Milan is still in the CL and Inter have been awarded a scudetto Juventus legitemately won. It's odd. And I might act all paranoid, but is it really that unlikely that a football trial in Italy, of all countries, is corrupt?
 

Bozi

The Bozman
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Oct 18, 2005
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ßömßärdîër said:
Dalla Bona anyone???
Sam Dalla Boner??aye he could get in behind and smash one away, talking of which, i seen this is the news today.....

Local Council in warning to public
The council in downtown Shitsville has urged locals not to panic after a spate of aggrivated fistings on elderly residents of a caravan park.
Signs have been posted warning of the offences and police are urging caution, Sgt Bubba Assahgger said this "We have a suspect in mind but we are short on witnesses at the moment, needless to say he is an individual we ahve been aware of for a while and we are monitoring his movements."
although the police have not given out the name of their chief suspect,they have warned elderly to travel in pairs and beware of a man in his early 20's wearing a bayern munchen soccer team shirt.
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
Seven said:
The entire calciopoli trial seems like a cheap vendetta to me. Milan is still in the CL and Inter have been awarded a scudetto Juventus legitemately won. It's odd. And I might act all paranoid, but is it really that unlikely that a football trial in Italy, of all countries, is corrupt?

Well, considering that Juve was the only team out of the 4 to come right out and say that they would accept a demotion to Serie B as soon as the proceedings took place should indicate to everyone that they were guilty of the infractions, knew it, and tried to lessen their penalty in the process.


Plea Bargaining,so to speak.

So, for anyone to call this tribunal a farce, or corrupt, should really look at the other side of the story, and realize that had Juventus not made these statements beforehand, we might be looking at a Serie C1 squad right now.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,986
MrsPado'sShoes said:
Well, considering that Juve was the only team out of the 4 to come right out and say that they would accept a demotion to Serie B as soon as the proceedings took place should indicate to everyone that they were guilty of the infractions, knew it, and tried to lessen their penalty in the process.


Plea Bargaining,so to speak.

So, for anyone to call this tribunal a farce, or corrupt, should really look at the other side of the story, and realize that had Juventus not made these statements beforehand, we might be looking at a Serie C1 squad right now.
I have to agree. The punishment we have received is just and actually perhaps even a bit lenient, however the other clubs involved got off rather easily, especially Milan. Unless UEFA decides to revoke their Champions League partication, they will have received nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

So Juventus might have received a fair punishment, however the other clubs certainly have not and such a fact does nothing to show the show the football community Calcio has become cleaner after this. But in this world there will always be a just or unjust scapegoat.
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
ßömßärdîër said:
UEFA may still reject Milan for next year's CL, though.

They very well could. They would be following a precedent that they set over 10 years ago with Marseilles and their match fixing scandal, when they banished them from Champion League play.


Can't see what Milan's situation has to do with Juve, though.

Although, people on this forum are trying to paint them with the same brush, and that isn't the case
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,327
MrsPado'sShoes said:
Well, considering that Juve was the only team out of the 4 to come right out and say that they would accept a demotion to Serie B as soon as the proceedings took place should indicate to everyone that they were guilty of the infractions, knew it, and tried to lessen their penalty in the process.


Plea Bargaining,so to speak.

So, for anyone to call this tribunal a farce, or corrupt, should really look at the other side of the story, and realize that had Juventus not made these statements beforehand, we might be looking at a Serie C1 squad right now.
That's what I would have thought had it not been for the path the prosecutors and judges followed. Oddly enough there are now four teams, that are all not guilty of sporting fraud, but are guilty on less serious accounts. Yet one of those four teams finds itself in Serie B with a 17 point deduction and another one finds itself at the top of Serie A. In the meanwhile a big team that hasn't won a big trophy for 17 years get granted a scudetto, which had been legitemately won before. I don't buy this crap.

The discrepancy (or however you write it in English) is simply too big. And you have to admit it's rather weird that Fiorentina come from Serie B with approximately 15 points deduction and go to Serie A with approximately 15 points while there were only 13 points less punishment for Juventus after the appeal.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,327
Andy said:
I have to agree. The punishment we have received is just and actually perhaps even a bit lenient, however the other clubs involved got off rather easily, especially Milan. Unless UEFA decides to revoke their Champions League partication, they will have received nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

So Juventus might have received a fair punishment, however the other clubs certainly have not and such a fact does nothing to show the show the football community Calcio has become cleaner after this. But in this world there will always be a just or unjust scapegoat.
Simply not true. As a fan I agree with you in that you say football teams should be punished harshly for influencing results off the pitch. When I look at other leagues however (especially the Belgian) I see that entire results are fixed without teams effectively getting punished. Doesn't it seem ridiculous that Juventus got demoted for "trying to influence a referee" while Lierse are still in Division 1 after completely fixing three games?
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
Andy said:
I have to agree. The punishment we have received is just and actually perhaps even a bit lenient, however the other clubs involved got off rather easily, especially Milan. Unless UEFA decides to revoke their Champions League partication, they will have received nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

So Juventus might have received a fair punishment, however the other clubs certainly have not and such a fact does nothing to show the show the football community Calcio has become cleaner after this. But in this world there will always be a just or unjust scapegoat.

Well, you have to look at it in criminal terms when comparing the amount of cheating that took place.

Yes, a cheat is a cheat, but in this instance how badly you cheated determines the severity of the punishment.

Think of it in other terms.

If an Nfl player is caught taking amphetamines, and another is caught taking Steroids, which player is going to get the harsher penalty?? Obviously, the player on Steroids, because its more of a performance enhancer than amphetamines.
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
Seven said:
That's what I would have thought had it not been for the path the prosecutors and judges followed. Oddly enough there are now four teams, that are all not guilty of sporting fraud, but are guilty on less serious accounts. Yet one of those four teams finds itself in Serie B with a 17 point deduction and another one finds itself at the top of Serie A. In the meanwhile a big team that hasn't won a big trophy for 17 years get granted a scudetto, which had been legitemately won before. I don't buy this crap.

The discrepancy (or however you write it in English) is simply too big. And you have to admit it's rather weird that Fiorentina come from Serie B with approximately 15 points deduction and go to Serie A with approximately 15 points while there were only 13 points less punishment for Juventus after the appeal.

Yes, but you also have to consider that its entirely possible that the tribunal had a lot more evidence against Juventus than even we, the public, were led to believe. And from what I've seen in recent history, appeals usually result in lighter sentences all the way around, but for Juve to only have a 13 point deduction and still remain in Serie B, the evidence must have been staggering, to say the least.

I would be far more upset if Juve were allowed back in to Serie A after the appeals process, to be quite honest with you. That would have shown the whole judicial system to be a total farce, and nothing, nothing at all would have been gained by it.
 

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