Nick Against the World (41 Viewers)

Matteo..

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Apr 30, 2006
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What I've also been meaning to ask: has anyone of you read "The Miracle of Castel di Sangro" or "A Season with Verona"? I'm guessing someone must have. Anyway here's my question: are it books I should get my hands on and read during the summer, or are they nothing special and not books you must have read to be deemed acceptable?

Bah, back to my paper on Agrigento. You know, Greek temples are quite nice if you're standing in front of them. But writing down how many columns each building had and what the size of the pronaos was really isn't all that interesting..
 

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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"A season with Verona" by Tim Parks absolutely rocks. I loved it. The Castel di Sangro one I haven't read after a friend of mine complained how she couldn't get through it and thought 20 euros spent on a desk stabiliser was a bit much

As for Greek temples; I've seen the ones in Paestum and they were nice, but I couldn't write a single paragraph on them :D
 

The Pado

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Jul 12, 2002
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@ Paul- OK. If it's all in my head, then it's my problem.

It's not that I don't like you, or that I want you to stop posting. it's just that I was angry with what I thought you were implying. And when I was angry our boy Nick threw a little gasoline on the fire. Hence the second and third rants.


Oh, it was clearly intended to get a reaction out of you, but I really was angry.


. . . and I forgot all about the "I stole his artwork" bit. LOL. Now that was some good shit.



@ Libero - It's been a while since we have seen you let fly like that. I like Vinman, but I have to admit it was funny. You can bitch slap with a silver tongue in at least two languages I see. I wish you would post here more.
 

Matteo..

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Apr 30, 2006
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Erik said:
"A season with Verona" by Tim Parks absolutely rocks. I loved it. The Castel di Sangro one I haven't read after a friend of mine complained how she couldn't get through it and felt 20 euros on a desk stabiliser was a bit much

As for Greek temples; I've seen the ones in Paestum and they were nice, but I couldn't write a single paragraph on them :D
Seeing you're a pretty classy guy, I'll get my hands on a "A season with Verona" ASAP.

And the ones in Paestum are absolutely awesome IMO.
 

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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Matteo.. said:
Seeing you're a pretty classy guy, I'll get my hands on a "A season with Verona" ASAP.
Let me know what you think! I read it in Dutch, the translation was quite good but as always reading a book in the language it was written can't be matched

And the ones in Paestum are absolutely awesome IMO.
Shame you can't get very close though, I would've liked that.
 

Matteo..

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Apr 30, 2006
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Hey, I'm just reading Luigi Pirandello was inspired by the Valle dei Templi, perhaps I should tell more about him in my paper :D. He's quite interesting.
Erik, you haven't accidentally read "Uno, nessuno e centomila", have you? It's a great book, I'd reccomend to everyone. What was pretty scaring about it though, was that I had been pondering about the very same things he tells about for years until I read the book. After I finished it, I decided it would be more healthy not to ponder about them anymore :D.
 

Matteo..

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Erik said:
Let me know what you think! I read it in Dutch, the translation was quite good but as always reading a book in the language it was written can't be matched



Shame you can't get very close though, I would've liked that.
That indeed is a pity. In fact that's what I like most about Greek temples: touching them. It might sound odd, but touching them and realising they have been put there by some guy 2000 years ago really has a strong effect on me.
 

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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That's close to the sensation I had walking through the ruins of Pompeii

Matteo.. said:
Hey, I'm just reading Luigi Pirandello was inspired by the Valle dei Templi, perhaps I should tell more about him in my paper :D. He's quite interesting.
Erik, you haven't accidentally read "Uno, nessuno e centomila", have you? It's a great book, I'd reccomend to everyone. What was pretty scare about it though, that I had been pondering about the very same things he tells about for years until I read the book. After I finished it, I decided it would be more healthy not to ponder about them anymore :D.
«Come sopportare in me questo estraneo? Questo estraneo che ero io stesso per me? Come non vederlo? Come non conoscerlo? Come restare per sempre condannato a portarmelo con me, in me, alla vista degli altri e fuori intanto dalla mia?»

I've read the reviews, couldn't find it and then forgot about it a few months ago when I started my thesis which involved reading a few dozen books (still involves, actually). My Italian teacher recommended it to me and made it sound like the holy grail (not in Monty Python style). But she also suggested "Il Gattopardo" and I'm still recovering from that one.
 

Matteo..

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Apr 30, 2006
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Erik said:
That's close to the sensation I had walking through the ruins of Pompeii



«Come sopportare in me questo estraneo? Questo estraneo che ero io stesso per me? Come non vederlo? Come non conoscerlo? Come restare per sempre condannato a portarmelo con me, in me, alla vista degli altri e fuori intanto dalla mia?»

I've read the reviews, couldn't find it and then forgot about it a few months ago when I started my thesis which involved reading a few dozen books (still involves, actually). My Italian teacher recommended it to me and made it sound like the holy grail (not in Monty Python style). But she also suggested "Il Gattopardo" and I'm still recovering from that one.
Pompeii's great as well, but more of an Herculaneum fan myself. What I like so much about Pompei is that it seems to speak to you in a down to earth fashion, without letting go of the horror some of the people have no doubt gone through.

"Uno, nessuno e centomila" just might be the best book I ever read. The way he unfolds his philosophy is brilliant. It's also one of the only books that have ever scared me, simply because when you follow him in his philosophy you see the awful consequences it might bear and at the same time, you're not able to find any weaknesses in that philosphy. And like the part you quoted, you get somewhat anxious and nervous.
 

Respaul

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Jul 14, 2002
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Zé Tahir said:
Some Englishmen are just pissed because they have no culture and because the sun now rises and sets.
Oh please... You can accuse the english of many things, but having no culture is not one of them and such crap can only come from the lips of someone who is completely and utterly ignorant of our race...
 

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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Matteo.. said:
Pompeii's great as well, but more of an Herculaneum fan myself. What I like so much about Pompei is that it seems to speak to you in a down to earth fashion, without letting go of the horror some of the people have no doubt gone through.

"Uno, nessuno e centomila" just might be the best book I ever read. The way he unfolds his philosophy is brilliant. It's also one of the only books that have ever scared me, simply because when you follow him in his philosophy you see the awful consequences it might bear and at the same time, you're not able to find any weaknesses in that philosphy. And like the part you quoted, you get somewhat anxious and nervous.
I'll bare it in mind then. I like such books, although sometimes they can get a bit depressing...
 

Respaul

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Matteo.. said:
but there's one thing Pado is most definitely right about and that's the fact Italians are being racially abused. You can't deny that the first reaction of many people was "oh, it's those Italians again.".
Racially abused by who ?

On this forum or in real life ?

Today or yesterday ?

I have no doubt that pado has received his fair share of abuse in his time, but the fact remains we as a human race cannot judge people by where they come from or from past experiences, we have to judge each individual on their own merit...

Are italian - americans abused in the states... More than likely, cant truely say as i have never stayed there for a long period...

But that doesnt mean all americans are like that...

Every country has people that give it a bad name, whether it be the italian-american wannabe wise guy pricks, the pisshead english lout, the whining italian conspiracy theorist etc etc .... But that doesnt represent the whole of those countries and we cannot judge people on that...

On this forum ?

I dont see it, yes there has been the odd missplaced comment, but definately not more than those aimed at other nations...

And there definately is an element here that see the slightest negative comment towards italy as an attack on the country or its people and as such they jump all over everyone that says boo, whatever the posters intention or the context of his scribblings... And assume it to be more than it is... The same people who on occasion have insulted other countries and passed it off as a joke, Though its never a joke when its about italy... But then it seems it cant be just a straight talking point either, but rather an attack... Its getting silly

Cant people for once jus stop insulting people for their nationality or race... These continual circles of bullshit would not be required then...

Is that really too much to ask?
 

Respaul

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The Pado said:
@ Paul- OK. If it's all in my head, then it's my problem.

It's not that I don't like you, or that I want you to stop posting. it's just that I was angry with what I thought you were implying. And when I was angry our boy Nick threw a little gasoline on the fire. Hence the second and third rants.


Oh, it was clearly intended to get a reaction out of you, but I really was angry.


. . . and I forgot all about the "I stole his artwork" bit. LOL. Now that was some good shit.
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Im not saying its in your head, Im sure those attitudes are something you have had to deal with on many occasions, But you know me better than that, And you know that accusing me of being anti of a country that is so big a part of my life is ridiculous... I may not sugar coat it, I may well be an arsehole but i dont post things like that as a judgement or generalistion... It was merely an accepted observation (with no bearing on the country or its people as a whole) and a talking point.. Is that wrong on a discussion forum ?

And please can we quit the country based comments... You wanna call me personally a Cunt.. Fine go ahead, but please dont insult me because of my nationality or insult my nation ...
 
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IncuboRossonero

IncuboRossonero

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    Pado, no I have not changed and will be the first one to head butt someone who calls me "Guido" "Don" or makes a generalization about Italians but you commited one of those sins...you generalized putting Paul in the same category as the Anglo Saxons or WASPS you encounter everyday in your new home state who despite having dinner with you and maybe inviting you to their home remind you every day you are Eye-Talian....Trust me I know the types and I also know other types like Paul or my friend Garreth from London or Francis from Liverpool or Beatrice from Leeds all of whom have treated me and continue to treat me with the utmost respect and appreciate all things Italian...

    Secondly, I will ask MATTEO aka Seven to stop trying so hard...you are becoming a real do gooder in this thread...to be honest I'm tired of your need to post pages after pages to be involved in every conversation and I am sick of your avatar...enough with it...

    Thirdly, Swag...any way you cut or compare it to a U.S. Lobbyist this thing stinks...Save us the analogies...save us the 'there are worse evils out there' and save us 'everyone does it'....Biscardi was notoriously anti-Milan...Tossati we were told to believe was the best Italian sports journalist both of whom will never be taken seriously again ...
    Lippi we are told is the best thing for the National Team yet he cannot make a decision on his own...

    There is enough evidence to send Juve to Serie C1 .. the rest is just toppings...

    SECOND SIGN I POST HERE TOO LONG:

    I had a dream that I was at a driving range and next to me was Pado who was about 6'4 taking swings...I knew who he was but he didn't know who I was....I began talking to him and the whole time he kept telling me dirty jokes....Clive Owen was also taking shots but when someone approched him he told them he was not Clive Owen...when I began eavesdropping on a cellphone conversation of his I noticed he was making arrangements for a flight back to Torino .... wheN I asked him if his name was Paul he dropped the phone....behind me I could hear Pado's punch line "so the Japanese business man says "Whatta mean WRONG hole!"

    Then I woke up
     

    un altro alex

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    Jan 15, 2006
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    IncuboRossonero said:
    There is enough evidence to send Juve to Serie C1 .. the rest is just toppings...
    isha00 said:
    Interview on "Repubblica" to De Biase, the head of the "inquisitory office" in the "calcioscommesse" (early 80s) scandal.
    "At the moment, from the phone taps, I don't see sportive illicits... I don't read about matches directly fixed, something that happened with calcioscommesse in 1980... There is surely violation of the 1rst article (fair play), but I don't see, at the moment, evidences of illicits".

    [scommesse=bets]
    Nick, let's not talk out of our asses, or use big words, eh? If it makes you sleep any better, you can use your little self-confidence boosting technique to raise hopes for your childhood dream of Juventus being relegated in private.
     

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