Nick Against the World (55 Viewers)

[IncuboRossonero]

Watch for newspaper headlines tomorrow..the week-end of interrogations of certain refs including Paparesta and De Santis and some management of small teams brought more information to light: Juve games exclusively played in December and those against Udinese and Parma are under question and being investigated...

 

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[Menace]

Paparesta is so sexy

 

[IncuboRossonero]

int: I think I may think of changing my name to INCUBOMESSIAH or NOSTRAROSSONERO or something more fitting...allow me to explain..

Since arriving on this site I have been biatching, yelping and some say whining over favorable calls accorded to Juve..blantant mis calls, turning a blind eye to the team and inexcusable errors giving Juve that extra edge...I was wrong about ONE thing..I often said I didn't think Moggi was making backroom deals with the officials but simply that favortism exist...

I was wrong....Lucky Luciano (Moggi) has clearly shown through his conversations that surely backroom deals were made...

For the sake of inflating my own ego and the ultimate "I TOLD YOU so" gloat ..please enjoy...


The following are the first wave of Juve games under investigation

Reggina-Juventus 2-1 (6-11-04)
Lecce-Juventus 0-1 (14-11-04)
Juventus-Lazio 2-1 (5-12-04)

Bologna-Juventus 0-1 (12-12-04)
Juventus-Udinese 2-1 (13-2-05)
Roma-Juventus 1-2 (5-3-05)
Fiorentina-Juventus 3-3 (9-4-05)

Reggina-Juventus 2-1 (6-11-04)

No comment here...bad calls made and Moggi decides to lock up Paparesta in the locker room and take the key with him...forcible confinement charges pending..

Lecce-Juventus 0-1 (14-11-04)

After this match yours truly posted the following:

Saw the match..

Your goal was offside as Camoranesi was very much active in the play: he was the reason that the keeper and defenders didn't pursue Trez.

I argued for post after post as everyone laughed at my post

Another Messiah posted

Well....

I have to admit, I feel a little sorry for lecce, They deserved the full 3 points today without question.
They were robbed by numerous iffy decisions ,an offside goal against and the the ref inexplicably gave a ridiculous amount of added minutes to try for a goal.
I found the whole thing a disgrace

(There is a reason he is highly respected in here..take note)


Bologna-Juventus 0-1 (12-12-04)

Posted by yours truly after the match..

BOLOGNA CRIES FOUL

Last year the Zambrotta Oscar worthy DIVE and this year this...what a crock of shit. Two take-downs without even so much as a whistle.
A freekick which at its origin was a bad call.

Bologna is right to go apeshit over Pieri's calls. This was the worse officiating of the year by far.
What a shame.).

Roma-Juventus 1-2 (5-3-05)

The dubious decisions in favor of Juve still very much exist: An offside goal..a PK which was rightfully called the ‘worse call’ of the season. Juve-Bologna, Juve-Cagliari, Juve-Palermo, Juve-Milan have all had controversial calls or blind eyes. This game took the cake.

.....
Newspaper headlines were also quoted in my post.

ANOTHER MESSIAH on that day

I must say the referee and his assistants were a joke, as Zlatan was offside in the move prior to the penalty, Thuram clearly brought down Montella and Roma should have gotten a penalty

Any surprise Denco is also well respected?

Fiorentina-Juventus 3-3 (9-4-05)


This particular game was interesting because of conversations between the Juve and Fiorentina management...what I called lucky calls may have been more...

The mystery is how Juve is managing to stay with Milan atop Serie A:
lucky to surpass Roma unscathed since those classless s-o-b's (Roma) did not have playing in their minds...lucky to get the call against Chievo and not go down to the draw and extremely lucky this week that Fiorentina's keeper was GOD awful:
he let DP's mediocre kick go through his hands....he cleared a loose ball with a little TAP to Zlatan ....
Anyhow, it just makes the Milan-Juve match-up much more exciting.

P.S. I missed out on two games...I'm getting old I guess int: or maybe I actually believed Pado's claims that I was a nut like his friend the Pollack who said refs ruined the games every week. Dearest Pado, maybe its time to reconsider who was wrong...KASMIR or the rest who laughed at him...

 

[Hydde]

Watch for newspaper headlines tomorrow..the week-end of interrogations of certain refs including Paparesta and De Santis and some management of small teams brought more information to light: Juve games exclusively played in December and those against Udinese and Parma are under question and being investigated...

Geezus, Incubbo...what we are going to do?

 

[IncuboRossonero]

But by the same token, a lot of anti-Juve whiners misused this as an opportunity/attempt to distract the team in the heat of a Scudetto race. And the team didn't crumble

With all due respect this came out with ONE game left....hardly enough time to crumble and considering the fact that Reggina DID Not play at home because of a harsh penalty some suggestions say the change of venue was Moggi's last doing and final hurrah....also odd to see Paparesta as the fourth keeper..that was just downright stupid.

But this match aside, Juve generally dominated the campionato this season. And while there was cause to point out a few referee examples of questionable merit -- as seemingly happens every season (and as someone on goal.com posted, wasn't exactly exceptional by any means this year) -- in the end I don't think it's even a signficant factor in the outcome one way or the other. For at least what the players could achieve themselves, this squad should rightfully lay claim to the Scudetto.

Not to mention that no accusations I've heard to date concerned matches this season...

False....every Siena match this season is being investigated as is the Udinese and Parma match up...
at a time when Juve could have crumbled and other teams could have had a chance some made sure that opportunity never arose..
this things spans way beyond what most of us could grasp ...

When you choose to take this route to be stronger to win games you will have to live with the fact that your players and their accomplishments will take a backseat

 

[Vinman]

Roma-Juventus 1-2 (5-3-05)


Quote:
Originally Posted by IncuboRossonero
The dubious decisions in favor of Juve still very much exist: An offside goal..a PK which was rightfully called the 'worse call’ of the season. Juve-Bologna, Juve-Cagliari, Juve-Palermo, Juve-Milan have all had controversial calls or blind eyes. This game took the cake.

I remember that game, and how awful that PK call was...the player was at least 2 feet outside the box when he was taken down...it was the worst call of the season

 

[IncuboRossonero]

Geezus, Incubbo...what we are going to do?

Nothing...keep saying that everyone hates Juve and its a whining campaign that seems to work...

or maybe accept the fact that the complaints you have heard for years were actually not conspiracy theories

 

[Hydde]

Nothing...keep saying that everyone hates Juve and its a whining campaign that seems to work...

or maybe accept the fact that the complaints you have heard for years were actually not conspiracy theories

Jokes aside, if Moggi and Company are found guilty ( we dont know to which extend He is), he must pay for sure.


Ill not say anything against ur comments of some of the games....because i dont rememebr much of those incidents, but im very sure that i saw a lot of shamefull referral mistakes during this late juventus campaign. We all did.

I always knew that Moggi could have some power in calccio, but i didnt knew to what extend...and for sure none of us do. But im kind of happy that this is happening because the sport cant just continue like this, and what pleasure it have when mogi is practically controlling evrything,.


If we are found guilty and we need to go to serie B or hand down some scudetto,s we will clearly deserve it.


PD: that paparesta incident..... ok just this sole event shows the power moggi had over osme referees. Is extremely shamefull, and the fact that paparesta didnt say anything... just too mmuch

 

[The Pado]

Serie A or Serie D, there is close to 0 coverage of Juve here, so I'll be glued to the news again....but the highlights might be a problem

Zero coverage?????

We played 38 Serie A matches, I watched 37 of them.
We played 4 Coppa Italia matches, I watched all 4.
We played 1 Supercoppa Italiana, I watched it.
We played 10 Champions League matches, I watched 4

We both live on the East Coast USA, so I say the coverage is quite good.

 

[The Pado]

the super-y league national championships, it was in Orlando around November 2004. They don't do it by U-16, in super-y it's done by year. So my age group is the 1990 team since that's the year I was born, but I was pulled up as a guest player for the team in the national championships, and they were the 1989 team. I only played the last 10 minutes of each game, but I scored in the last one

Are you Sebastian D. Coquesuker, the kid that scored a cracking goal in the 38' of the quarterfinal? If so, I'm sorry you quit the game.


If you can get yourself to England, Newcastle United will give you a tryout. Hahahahahaha. umpkin:

 

[3pac]

Are you Sebastian D. Coquesuker, the kid that scored a cracking goal in the 38' of the quarterfinal? If so, I'm sorry you quit the game.


If you can get yourself to England, Newcastle United will give you a tryout. Hahahahahaha. umpkin:

Actually I scored a cracking goal in the 73' of the consolation match for 12th place


It won't let me rep you, because I apparently repped you last anyways

 

[The Pado]

Nick, you are giving yourself too much credit. Yes you and 10 million Italians made those very same complaints week in and week out.

Seriously, you have done well to bitch about the matches under investigation, but you also bitched about games where no bad calls or suspicious events happened.

Anyway, you do not need to go overboard with this. You are preaching to a few who claim that this is false and will all go away, but the great majority of us agree that football must be 100% clean and honest. We, the Juve fans, and the Juve players never wanted to win by corruption. We, in this forum, all seem to accept that we must play in Serie B for our sins. Who are you preaching to?

Oh, and one more thing:


I STILL LOVE YOU, LUCIANO MOGGI.

(Actually, I really do.)

 

[The Pado]

Actually I scored a cracking goal in the 73' of the consolation match for 12th place


It won't let me rep you, because I apparently repped you last anyways

I thought you would like "Coquesuker"

 

[3pac]

I thought you would like "Coquesuker"

I don't get it?

 

[The Pado]

Does anybody else think it's funny to see Mr. Berlusconi crying about being a "Victim of Injustice" and demanding that Juve return his trophies?

He should thank Mr. Moggi every day, as now Berlusconi is only Italy's second biggest crook.

. . . and I guess he is too stupid to realize that if the league was fixed to ensure first palce, then it was also fixed as to second place. Fixed is fixed and the runner-up in a fixed league cannot claim they are champions.

 

[un altro alex]

hm.. Monday 15th of May. Trial starts today, and Lippi's WC team is announced. THis will be an interesting day, hopefully not too many unpleasant surprises

@Pado, give Berlusconi a rest, k? He's the best thing since Napoleon and he knows it.

 

[JCK]

Iaquinta to the Azzurri.

 

[Matteo..]

Has it been announced?

 

[JCK]

Lippi will announce it later today in a press conference.

 

[Byrone]

i want the squad list now jack.