Nick Against the World (47 Viewers)
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It is more than you and Greg who laughed off these accusations..but the fact that there was actual transcripts of Moggi's conversations and the fact both you choose to dismiss it as a 'witch hunt' and compare it to the Cannavaro video demonstrated that just like the conspiracy theorists you led your black and white googles get the better of you...
But it is more than that...it was more than you and Greg...week in week out it was the same replies and the same statements "Milan is jealous"..."we dominated" "Berlusconi is corrupt" and no one fairly analzyed the claims ... no one logically thought about the calls except Paul and Denco ... most woudl rather turn a blind eye to the joke that was officiating and just brand incuborossonero the resident "conspiracy theorist"...
you can't expect me to sit back on the sidelines at this point when all my wild accusations and yelling like a village idiot came true....this opportunity comes once in a million years: when far fledged theories come to light and are proven...so bend over and take it and call Kasmir and ask for his forgiveness.
About those other games: wait and see my naive friend...wait and see.
But it is more than that...it was more than you and Greg...week in week out it was the same replies and the same statements "Milan is jealous"..."we dominated" "Berlusconi is corrupt" and no one fairly analzyed the claims ... no one logically thought about the calls except Paul and Denco ... most woudl rather turn a blind eye to the joke that was officiating and just brand incuborossonero the resident "conspiracy theorist"...
you can't expect me to sit back on the sidelines at this point when all my wild accusations and yelling like a village idiot came true....this opportunity comes once in a million years: when far fledged theories come to light and are proven...so bend over and take it and call Kasmir and ask for his forgiveness.
About those other games: wait and see my naive friend...wait and see.
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You kidding??? Juve in B....its like handing me a baseball bat and everyone here bending over...week after week 
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However, my hatred for Juve has been subsiding in the last few years and moved on to INter....especially these days in which they claim they were cheated out of scudetto's and get this CL titles...
Of course, because Moggi and Galliani were behind Villareal beating their sorry arses...
because Galliani was behind Milan beating them 6-0, 4-2 and in two CL semis....
they have not won in 16 years and are blaming everyone else...pathetic
int: However, my hatred for Juve has been subsiding in the last few years and moved on to INter....especially these days in which they claim they were cheated out of scudetto's and get this CL titles...
Of course, because Moggi and Galliani were behind Villareal beating their sorry arses...
because Galliani was behind Milan beating them 6-0, 4-2 and in two CL semis....
they have not won in 16 years and are blaming everyone else...pathetic
yeah, we don't hate Milanisti that much anymore either, especially after those beautiful 6 minutes against Liverpool. now that, was quality int:
On the other hand, i would like to see many fans not being overly sad about the relegation (if so be it), since we'll be back in a year anyway with new team spirit, determination, and younger talent, to kick your sorry asses again. (In case of relegation to C1, make that two years).
int:On the other hand, i would like to see many fans not being overly sad about the relegation (if so be it), since we'll be back in a year anyway with new team spirit, determination, and younger talent, to kick your sorry asses again.
(In case of relegation to C1, make that two years).
Can you please tell us how exactly did we "fixed" those games?
Are there any transcripts between Moggi and the officials of these games?
did he asked someone for a special ref, for a certain of those games?
Did we transfered money on somebody's count (do all those refs drive Maserati's what happens if someone has an Opel )
Are there any real facts other than those vague suspections/accusations?
Who had those evidence all that time,
why did he revealed those evidence just now?
Did Buffon bet on those matches?
Now that Milan finally lost another scudetto will these accusation dissapear
and come back again next year when we are about to win our third star?
PS its not irony, i really care about those questions
and if you bring any hard evidence, i will honestly accept our guilt
Are there any transcripts between Moggi and the officials of these games?
did he asked someone for a special ref, for a certain of those games?
Did we transfered money on somebody's count (do all those refs drive Maserati's what happens if someone has an Opel
)Are there any real facts other than those vague suspections/accusations?
Who had those evidence all that time,
why did he revealed those evidence just now?
Did Buffon bet on those matches?
Now that Milan finally lost another scudetto will these accusation dissapear
and come back again next year when we are about to win our third star?
PS its not irony, i really care about those questions
and if you bring any hard evidence, i will honestly accept our guilt
IncuboRossonero said:
You kidding??? Juve in B....its like handing me a baseball bat and everyone here bending over...week after week int:
However, my hatred for Juve has been subsiding in the last few years and moved on to INter....especially these days in which they claim they were cheated out of scudetto's and get this CL titles...
Of course, because Moggi and Galliani were behind Villareal beating their sorry arses...
because Galliani was behind Milan beating them 6-0, 4-2 and in two CL semis....
they have not won in 16 years and are blaming everyone else...pathetic
int: However, my hatred for Juve has been subsiding in the last few years and moved on to INter....especially these days in which they claim they were cheated out of scudetto's and get this CL titles...
Of course, because Moggi and Galliani were behind Villareal beating their sorry arses...
because Galliani was behind Milan beating them 6-0, 4-2 and in two CL semis....
they have not won in 16 years and are blaming everyone else...pathetic
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Chelsea confirm Sheva desire
Milan’s Andriy Shevchenko has moved a step closer to joining Chelsea after the London club admitted they are ready to pounce.
Shevchenko revealed on Friday evening that he was entertaining the idea of leaving the San Siro, citing family reasons for his possible departure.
Although the Ukrainian admitted that no decision over his future had been made, the Premiership champions are preparing an offer.
"We have shown our interest in Shevchenko over the last two seasons and had dialogue with Milan,” confirmed chief executive Peter Kenyon.
“Shevchenko is the type of player we would like.
"At the end of the day to improve what we have got, it has to be a great player and Shevchenko certainly comes into that class.
"You stand a chance [of signing him] but there is a long way to go in the summer. It has got to be 50-50, but I would not say that it is any more than that."
Boss Jose Mourinho has also given the probable swoop his blessing, even if he is insisting that the deal is far from done.
"I think the natural thing is that you have a big striker to join us and to make this group stronger," said the Portuguese tactician.
"I cannot say it is Shevchenko though. He is a player that belongs to Milan and Milan have a three or four-year contract with him.”
Meanwhile, Chelsea will announce the capture of one-time Inter target Michael Ballack at a media conference today.
The German international has arrived from Bayern Munich on a free transfer.
Nick i thought that us Juventino's should not be the only one's to endure some terrible news.
Milan’s Andriy Shevchenko has moved a step closer to joining Chelsea after the London club admitted they are ready to pounce.
Shevchenko revealed on Friday evening that he was entertaining the idea of leaving the San Siro, citing family reasons for his possible departure.
Although the Ukrainian admitted that no decision over his future had been made, the Premiership champions are preparing an offer.
"We have shown our interest in Shevchenko over the last two seasons and had dialogue with Milan,” confirmed chief executive Peter Kenyon.
“Shevchenko is the type of player we would like.
"At the end of the day to improve what we have got, it has to be a great player and Shevchenko certainly comes into that class.
"You stand a chance [of signing him] but there is a long way to go in the summer. It has got to be 50-50, but I would not say that it is any more than that."
Boss Jose Mourinho has also given the probable swoop his blessing, even if he is insisting that the deal is far from done.
"I think the natural thing is that you have a big striker to join us and to make this group stronger," said the Portuguese tactician.
"I cannot say it is Shevchenko though. He is a player that belongs to Milan and Milan have a three or four-year contract with him.”
Meanwhile, Chelsea will announce the capture of one-time Inter target Michael Ballack at a media conference today.
The German international has arrived from Bayern Munich on a free transfer.
Nick i thought that us Juventino's should not be the only one's to endure some terrible news.
There's always two sides of a story, Nick. And the truth almost always lies somewhere inbetween.
Even you here admit that a lot of the presumptions and accusations now have precisely fit a model of worst-case behavior that has been repeated by the most rabid anti-Juve sects for many, many years. And anytime I hear the story match identically that of just one side of a bitter, heated argument -- I get very, very suspicious of the witnesses.
To the extent that Juve has come out legally clean to date is clearly exaggerated truth in my mind. But I have every expectation that not only will it play out that these long-standing worst-case theories will not only be unproven, but they will also will be exaggerated in truth.
I still don't see the clear and obvious "proof" that many seem to take as verbatim fact, end of story, case closed. Apparently, due process isn't necessary because you and every Juve conspiracy theorist who can read a newspaper has it all? I just don't buy that, Nick. There's a difference between due process and a lynch mob.
I'm not saying that Juve is clean of what's being accused by any means, however. It's a question of severity and extent, of context and relevance. I reserve that I could be wholly proved wrong and all the worst case scenarios are true if proven out. In which case, Serie A, let alone Juve, is completed f*cked.
Even you here admit that a lot of the presumptions and accusations now have precisely fit a model of worst-case behavior that has been repeated by the most rabid anti-Juve sects for many, many years. And anytime I hear the story match identically that of just one side of a bitter, heated argument -- I get very, very suspicious of the witnesses.
To the extent that Juve has come out legally clean to date is clearly exaggerated truth in my mind. But I have every expectation that not only will it play out that these long-standing worst-case theories will not only be unproven, but they will also will be exaggerated in truth.
I still don't see the clear and obvious "proof" that many seem to take as verbatim fact, end of story, case closed. Apparently, due process isn't necessary because you and every Juve conspiracy theorist who can read a newspaper has it all? I just don't buy that, Nick. There's a difference between due process and a lynch mob.
I'm not saying that Juve is clean of what's being accused by any means, however. It's a question of severity and extent, of context and relevance. I reserve that I could be wholly proved wrong and all the worst case scenarios are true if proven out. In which case, Serie A, let alone Juve, is completed f*cked.
Why do I keep hearing the words "proof" and "evidence" etc when refering to our punishment / non-punishment regarding these footballing matters...
Conclusive proof / evidence are not required here... Whilst Evidence etc is required to convict Moggi, Giraudo et al in their respective legal cases... These things are not required for us to receive footballing sanctions... These are matters for an FIGC panel to decide... However much evidence there is to prove us guilty or innocent... the fact is... Its irrelevant, The decision comes down to the OPINION of a sanctioned panel... Exactly as is the case when reviewing incidents on the field....
Your vision of evidence is only required in the eye of the law, not to decide our punishment within the league system...
Conclusive proof / evidence are not required here... Whilst Evidence etc is required to convict Moggi, Giraudo et al in their respective legal cases... These things are not required for us to receive footballing sanctions... These are matters for an FIGC panel to decide... However much evidence there is to prove us guilty or innocent... the fact is... Its irrelevant, The decision comes down to the OPINION of a sanctioned panel... Exactly as is the case when reviewing incidents on the field....
Your vision of evidence is only required in the eye of the law, not to decide our punishment within the league system...
IncuboRossonero said:
You kidding??? Juve in B....its like handing me a baseball bat and everyone here bending over...week after week int:
However, my hatred for Juve has been subsiding in the last few years and moved on to INter....especially these days in which they claim they were cheated out of scudetto's and get this CL titles...
Of course, because Moggi and Galliani were behind Villareal beating their sorry arses...
because Galliani was behind Milan beating them 6-0, 4-2 and in two CL semis....
they have not won in 16 years and are blaming everyone else...pathetic
int: However, my hatred for Juve has been subsiding in the last few years and moved on to INter....especially these days in which they claim they were cheated out of scudetto's and get this CL titles...
Of course, because Moggi and Galliani were behind Villareal beating their sorry arses...
because Galliani was behind Milan beating them 6-0, 4-2 and in two CL semis....
they have not won in 16 years and are blaming everyone else...pathetic