Nick Against the World (46 Viewers)

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Emma ] ++
All around page 880. But here you go :D

Graham:

Andy:

Burke:

Pado:

Jaecole:

Seven:


There is a pic of Nick somewhere but I dunno where.
Shouldn't we make an offical poll of this? So Fliakis and Andy can finally get along?
 
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IncuboRossonero

IncuboRossonero

Inferiority complex
Nov 16, 2003
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    I don't think it's so much a mystery as much as it is a regular truism: Milan is often the best team in Europe whereas Juve are often the best team in Italy.

    Maybe that's because Milan (rightfully) has a history of better focus on the CL and just enough to get by in Serie A, with the bonus of winning the Scudetto when they can go for the double.

    Certainly 10 games at the level Milan has had will take something out of you. But all teams get tired, have form swings, etc. Look at Juve at the start of the season versus Milan. Look at the two when paired before the end of the year, despite the 0-0 scoreline?
    No comparison. Milan was fighting for a much more heated quarter final against its cross city rivals while Juve was battling Liverpool and loss precisely because they played as if they always had the lead. They opted not to panic against Liverpool while Milan dedicated much energy to the Quarter and semi finals while keeping up on Serie A.

    ++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++

    Though I do think it's a little dismissive to write-off Juve coming into Milan, playing one of the best games they've played all season, and coming away with a victory at the San Siro for the first time in some 8 years. Milan has been in this situation this late in the season many times before and not faultered, so you have to give some credit to Juve this time.
    I give Juve credit because they capitalized on a chance...Milan did not muster up many chances and were clearly tired. Juve was able to capitalize on that. To say Juve had their best game of the season is B.S. I found the game boring at times because Milan only attacked towards the end and Juve opted stood back. Juve's best game? Come on.


    ++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
    At the delle Alpi, an in form Milan thrashed a competely out-of-form Juve for a 0-0 score. So I'm not so sure I'd be too liberal with the "killed" label just yet..
    WEll I would...if you had asked me then....WHO would win tomorrow I would still say Milan and I would still say it today because I truly don't believe Juve has a better team. The table indicates otherwise but I stand by my statement.
    Again, had Juve faced a Milan squad of a month/month and a half ago my original predication may have materialized.


    ++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
    While I would give some class credits to Galliani and Ancelotti for that, I would only give them partial credit. Full credit would only come if they had stated that Juve played a clearly superior match than they did, which they did. It's one thing to take the blame yourself for a loss. It's another to acknowledge the, at least for that moment, superiority of your competition if they have played a truly good game. And Juve played a truly good game.
    Again I don't think Juve was superior. Period. Juve capitalized on a tired Milan...Juve knew how to exploit the situation. Ancelotti you may know never mentions officiating scandals and most of the Italian press have had it with the 'silence policy' because they received some bad press. Should Milan have done the same when the Gattuso accusations came out?






    ++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
    I have to say, you've completely piqued my interest as well as many others on this...
    Yeah I guess I'll have to explain..again I have to apologize..it will have to wait a little while.
     

    Bjerknes

    "Top Economist"
    Mar 16, 2004
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    I see Nick is giving the same old "could have, should have, would have" nonsense that the defeated always like to use as an excuse. As for who was the better team, Juventus took their chances while Milan struggled to create something, only able to create some last ditch efforts. Juventus caused Milan trouble during the entire match and apart from the Trezeguet goal Del Piero hit the post once and Nedved struck just wide. We created more chances, we came closer to scoring more than once, and we put the ball in the net, all of which Milan was unable to do. Juventus was the better team, enough said.

    Back in December everybody here at least was saying Milan was indeed the better side, and most were being honest. Now I hope the same is true when the tide shifts towards Juventus.

    As far as the match being our best throughout the duration of the season, I think going to the San Siro to play against the side we are competing directly against to win the Scudetto, coming up on top with a 1-0 victory, says a lot about the performance by itself. However the way we played was almost perfect compared to what we have seen before and what it could have been. Capello got his tactics right, the team followed the gameplan almost perfectly, and no Juventus player had a bad game. Could the same be said about Milan? I think not. IMO, with everything at stake and what we were up against, it was our best match of the season.
     

    Respaul

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    Jul 14, 2002
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    ++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++
    I know its only a friendly, but any chance you'd come across the pond for this event ???
    Im not sure... We had allready agreed that this summer is complete family time... with no work trips or flitting off to see juve friendlies etc... barring of course the tour in july which i am committed to...so its unlikely

    But, My dear wife has decided she wants to go to new york at the end of the month which would also coincide with england - colombia at giants... So if we go with that idea... I may convince her we should go see italy at giants as well...

    We'll see
     

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