He didnt go studs up in the keeper. He got to the ball first, lobbed it over Chech when he got knocked down. No foul, no dangerous play IMO. I just saw it a few times, his foot was down, only his knee was up.
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He didnt go studs up in the keeper. He got to the ball first, lobbed it over Chech when he got knocked down. No foul, no dangerous play IMO. I just saw it a few times, his foot was down, only his knee was up.
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It is a penalty because Baros was clearly in control of the ball. He lobbed it over Cech, and was the closest one to it. Cech clearly stopped him from going after the ball and thats a clear penalty. No different than when a player rounds t he keeper and gets knocked down. Clear penalty IMO, no dangerous play. Or not dangerous enough for the play to be stopped I should say.
Andy,
Have you stolen Andy Grays script... He was spouting exactly the same rubbish this evening.... The guys a fvcking idiot
Firstly.. the mapping software... wouldnt take too much notice of that... as that same software in an independant test... Showed hursts goal to be both good and bad on seperate tests fed with exactly the same data... Its crap
Also many have complained after the mapping image being shown this evening that the position of gallas' left peg on the map and the actual footage are not the same... definately looked along way out to me
personally i thought it was in... Due to gallas's left legs position... though of course we will never really be sure.
A foul by baros... purleeeeez.. No way in the world
A foul by cech... definately
Personally i go with the idea that the ref wasnt 100% on the goal... but gave it as if he hadnt he would of had to give the pen and redcard cech...
He gave chelsea and the game in general the best option imo
As for whether it would have made a difference... I doubt it... Chelsea were absolutely toothless last night and showed that their squad is riddled with inadequacies...
How the hell does a team that defends for at least 60 minutes actually garner far more shots on target than the supposedly attacking chelsea... They were crap, Liverpool set out with a plan and carried it off too the letter... jus as they did against us
But for a rusty cisse they should have won it at least 2-0
Though eidur should never have missed the target in the dying moments.
Great result for football anyway
On a side note : Italian fans could learn one helluva lot from those thieving chav scousers on how to support ones team... The Kop was amazing as usual
Have you stolen Andy Grays script... He was spouting exactly the same rubbish this evening.... The guys a fvcking idiot
Firstly.. the mapping software... wouldnt take too much notice of that... as that same software in an independant test... Showed hursts goal to be both good and bad on seperate tests fed with exactly the same data... Its crap
Also many have complained after the mapping image being shown this evening that the position of gallas' left peg on the map and the actual footage are not the same... definately looked along way out to me
personally i thought it was in... Due to gallas's left legs position... though of course we will never really be sure.
A foul by baros... purleeeeez.. No way in the world
A foul by cech... definately
Personally i go with the idea that the ref wasnt 100% on the goal... but gave it as if he hadnt he would of had to give the pen and redcard cech...
He gave chelsea and the game in general the best option imo
As for whether it would have made a difference... I doubt it... Chelsea were absolutely toothless last night and showed that their squad is riddled with inadequacies...
How the hell does a team that defends for at least 60 minutes actually garner far more shots on target than the supposedly attacking chelsea... They were crap, Liverpool set out with a plan and carried it off too the letter... jus as they did against us
But for a rusty cisse they should have won it at least 2-0
Though eidur should never have missed the target in the dying moments.
Great result for football anyway
On a side note : Italian fans could learn one helluva lot from those thieving chav scousers on how to support ones team... The Kop was amazing as usual
Congrats Nick on making the final.
May have been outplayed for most of the game... but showed their class in not getting flustered and remaining professional... Jus biding their time until the goal finally came....
Something that all quality sides need to possess.
Be ashame for you too travel all that way to watch your boys lose though, Nick
May have been outplayed for most of the game... but showed their class in not getting flustered and remaining professional... Jus biding their time until the goal finally came....
Something that all quality sides need to possess.
Be ashame for you too travel all that way to watch your boys lose though, Nick
Paul
If you watch the replay of the goal again from the closest angle to the corner flag by the Kop, you will see that Gallas' right leg was parallel over the line, with his right peg basically in the same position, about half over the line. With his back to the camera you could see Gallas' white socks crossing the line, however if you factor in the diameter of the ball only the radius would have crossed the line. There was not enough space to fit both Gallas' leg and the ball over the line. So from my eyes it wasn't a goal. As I was watching it live I didnt think it was a goal and still don't now.
I don't know how accurate the mapping system is however if ESPN shows it the thing isn't going to be a joke. Sure it might be inaccurate but looks like the exact same scenario I posted above. Even without this mapping I still think it's not a goal.
And personally I wouldn't have given a penalty for that because Baros didn't have control of the ball and it was incidental contact by Cech.
For the record I thought both English Semi's were fairly poor, especially the first leg, compared to the Milan-PSV matches. At Stamford Bridge the pace was slow for an English side, however the passing was still very inept and overall buildup play was pathetic. The match, along with our game against Liverpool at Delle Alpi, were two of the worst matches I've seen in the CL all season.
Then at Anfield we had to suffer through 30 minutes of a center back playing as an inept targetman, with Chelsea reverting to long balls into Pool's defense. The tension was there but the quality of play was poor again. Benitez played to his strengths and you have to give him credit because without him Pool wouldn't be going to the Final. Chelsea was just as poor as us when we faced Liverpool at home.
And if Milan plays like they have been in the past four matches, being completely outplayed, Liverpool will punish them. However Milan have more weapons than any team Liverpool has faced this season, so holding out for a 1-0 lead will be extremely difficult. But I haven't seen such poor defending from Milan since the Riazor match last season. Absolute horrid display and they are quite lucky to progress.
If you watch the replay of the goal again from the closest angle to the corner flag by the Kop, you will see that Gallas' right leg was parallel over the line, with his right peg basically in the same position, about half over the line. With his back to the camera you could see Gallas' white socks crossing the line, however if you factor in the diameter of the ball only the radius would have crossed the line. There was not enough space to fit both Gallas' leg and the ball over the line. So from my eyes it wasn't a goal. As I was watching it live I didnt think it was a goal and still don't now.
I don't know how accurate the mapping system is however if ESPN shows it the thing isn't going to be a joke. Sure it might be inaccurate but looks like the exact same scenario I posted above. Even without this mapping I still think it's not a goal.
And personally I wouldn't have given a penalty for that because Baros didn't have control of the ball and it was incidental contact by Cech.
For the record I thought both English Semi's were fairly poor, especially the first leg, compared to the Milan-PSV matches. At Stamford Bridge the pace was slow for an English side, however the passing was still very inept and overall buildup play was pathetic. The match, along with our game against Liverpool at Delle Alpi, were two of the worst matches I've seen in the CL all season.
Then at Anfield we had to suffer through 30 minutes of a center back playing as an inept targetman, with Chelsea reverting to long balls into Pool's defense. The tension was there but the quality of play was poor again. Benitez played to his strengths and you have to give him credit because without him Pool wouldn't be going to the Final. Chelsea was just as poor as us when we faced Liverpool at home.
And if Milan plays like they have been in the past four matches, being completely outplayed, Liverpool will punish them. However Milan have more weapons than any team Liverpool has faced this season, so holding out for a 1-0 lead will be extremely difficult. But I haven't seen such poor defending from Milan since the Riazor match last season. Absolute horrid display and they are quite lucky to progress.
Yeah I just saw the Sky Sports report with Andy Gray, and I think he was pretty much spot on with the analysis. The referee was in no position to make a call on the incident, and perhaps the linesman was out of position. The referee said "I was in a good position to see the goal," however how can you judge if the ball went over the line when you are 25 yards out and the ball not touching the ground? If he made the call himself he's wrong. As Mr. Gray stated refs cannot make those decisions, and the linesman was perhaps out of position. When you are not certain whether or not the ball had crossed the line you let the play go on, not assume it went over when you're 25 yards out.
And if you are going to either call a penalty or give the goal without knowing if it went in or not by all means give the penalty. Is that just laziness on the part of the ref or what? Reasonable doubt and there sure was some on that call.
and I just saw Jose Mourinho's American Express comercial. I don't ever recall seeing a manager do comercials.
And if you are going to either call a penalty or give the goal without knowing if it went in or not by all means give the penalty. Is that just laziness on the part of the ref or what? Reasonable doubt and there sure was some on that call.
and I just saw Jose Mourinho's American Express comercial. I don't ever recall seeing a manager do comercials.