Nick Against the World (63 Viewers)
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The rest of the story ? That was the rest of the story : the part that the politically correct brigade avoided to cover too much. If that’s your idea of comical you’ve got a bloody macabre sense of humour.
What am I trying to say ? See my previous post : if you think it's going to take a colourful display for us to forgive, you got another thing coming.
So the heads of some Juve and Pool fan clubs shook hands? And only a tiny minority of Juve ultras gave that nice little ceremony the finger ? Ah yeah, that must mean Italians have moved on. So let’s be ashamed of those few rotten apples and instead focus on the details of our happy family reunion.
So Rush and Platini carried a banner with the names of the victims before kick-off ? The same Platini who celebrated on the victims' corpses and joked on French TV the day after ? And he was applauded by some of the authors of the butchery ? Shit dude I wish I could have seen that, even more so than the euroderby which I so wanted to attend but had to forget about because of work.
But you were there and you saw all of this. Wow, that surely makes you an authority and settles it forever, doesn’ it ?
Like bollocks it does. Here, let me use your same argument, only in a more pertinent way : are you Italian? No. Do you have acquaintances, relatives or ppl of your entourage who were directly affected by Heysel ? Probably, but that makes us even at the very best. In fact no one that isn’t Italian born, bred and raised - oops, that means pretty much everybody on this forum - has ANY right to tell me how to feel about this story nor "hit me with the truth".
What am I trying to say ? See my previous post : if you think it's going to take a colourful display for us to forgive, you got another thing coming.
So the heads of some Juve and Pool fan clubs shook hands? And only a tiny minority of Juve ultras gave that nice little ceremony the finger ? Ah yeah, that must mean Italians have moved on. So let’s be ashamed of those few rotten apples and instead focus on the details of our happy family reunion.
So Rush and Platini carried a banner with the names of the victims before kick-off ? The same Platini who celebrated on the victims' corpses and joked on French TV the day after ? And he was applauded by some of the authors of the butchery ? Shit dude I wish I could have seen that, even more so than the euroderby which I so wanted to attend but had to forget about because of work.
But you were there and you saw all of this. Wow, that surely makes you an authority and settles it forever, doesn’ it ?
Like bollocks it does. Here, let me use your same argument, only in a more pertinent way : are you Italian? No. Do you have acquaintances, relatives or ppl of your entourage who were directly affected by Heysel ? Probably, but that makes us even at the very best. In fact no one that isn’t Italian born, bred and raised - oops, that means pretty much everybody on this forum - has ANY right to tell me how to feel about this story nor "hit me with the truth".
Hey Libero,
I wasnt born in Italy, but was raised in a very similar way that you, and some others here were, that were born in Italy..
I think Nick, Pado, and Serge can agree with this also. Same customs, same family values, etc, etc.....
That being said, and to echo what Pado has already said, I too have vengence in my blood. Maybe its the Sicilian in me, I dont know....
I remember the incident, remember seeing the carnage (dont remember actually seeing the game, I dont remember ESPN showing any soccer at that time) on all the news networks here, plus all the pics in the newspapers, and I was extremely angry.
This hasnt been forgotten, not for a second, but do you think hurting, or possibly murdering Pool fans, many of whom probably werent even born before 1985, who come to Turin is the answer ?????
I wasnt born in Italy, but was raised in a very similar way that you, and some others here were, that were born in Italy..
I think Nick, Pado, and Serge can agree with this also. Same customs, same family values, etc, etc.....
That being said, and to echo what Pado has already said, I too have vengence in my blood. Maybe its the Sicilian in me, I dont know....
I remember the incident, remember seeing the carnage (dont remember actually seeing the game, I dont remember ESPN showing any soccer at that time) on all the news networks here, plus all the pics in the newspapers, and I was extremely angry.
This hasnt been forgotten, not for a second, but do you think hurting, or possibly murdering Pool fans, many of whom probably werent even born before 1985, who come to Turin is the answer ?????
Vinman, I think Libero is just saying that there is no shame in not forgiving, no shame in giving the one finger salute. I doubt a man like Libero would advocate a violent response, just as I do not advocate any violence.
I my opinion, a good dose of hatred is good for a sporting rivalry. We don't have to be friends. Perhaps a piss bomb fiesta would cure my need for revenge, but I seriously hope that nobody is injured at the return leg in Torino.
I my opinion, a good dose of hatred is good for a sporting rivalry. We don't have to be friends. Perhaps a piss bomb fiesta would cure my need for revenge, but I seriously hope that nobody is injured at the return leg in Torino.
