Nick Against the World (44 Viewers)

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Kaiser Franco ] ++


Paul, you're talking to a guy who excuses systematic doping on behalf of his team with the possibility that other teams have, at some point, used creatine for a month or two.
I don't excuse our systematic doping at all. I do believe doping is very common and that a lot of teams are guilty. Therefore I do not believe that Juventus deserves to be bashed as they are now. I don't think that Ben Johnsson was treated fair either. When such a great deal of money is involved it's only logical for some people to start cheating.
 

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IncuboRossonero

IncuboRossonero

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    ++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++
    I don't think that Ben Johnsson was treated fair either.
    Lets see......the rest of group train day after day and hour after hour to add on milliseconds to their 100 metre dash and make sacrificies like stay for months in isolation training and cutting every single luxury. He pumps his body up with roids requiring less training. He wins the race by SECONDS and is stripped of the GOLD MEDAL.
    FAIR?
    Should he have been GIVEN THE GOLD MEDAL?
    Sure why not make it an event where we can see which body can TAKE in the most amount of roids without falling apart
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
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    Lets see......the rest of group train day after day and hour after hour to add on milliseconds to their 100 metre dash and make sacrificies like stay for months in isolation training and cutting every single luxury. He pumps his body up with roids requiring less training. He wins the race by SECONDS and is stripped of the GOLD MEDAL.
    FAIR?
    Should he have been GIVEN THE GOLD MEDAL?
    Sure why not make it an event where we can see which body can TAKE in the most amount of roids without falling apart
    There we have our little journalist again. Don't take things out of context, Nick. It's incredibly harsh for people not doing drugs, true, but I don't think you need to destroy people if they do take drugs, like Benny boy did. There's a huge amount of pressure on them and it's normal for some people to look at solutions that will make their life easier. Or at least they think it will.

    Moron.
     
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    IncuboRossonero

    IncuboRossonero

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    There we have our little journalist again. Don't take things out of context, Nick. It's incredibly harsh for people not doing drugs, true, but I don't think you need to destroy people if they do take drugs, like Benny boy did. There's a huge amount of pressure on them and it's normal for some people to look at solutions that will make their life easier. Or at least they think it will.

    Moron.
    Moron? Coming from the guy who has stated in the past two days that:
    The only thing cops do is act like tough guys and have no real role.
    There is nothing wrong with cheating so long as one is winning.
    There is nothing wrong with using performance enhancing drugs since there is a lot of pressure on atheletes. (Is there no pressure on the ones who DON’T use drugs?)
    Wow your really knocking out the theories that will make it into the history books Zero.
    Given your way of thinking and judgment, I won’t be offended by you calling me a moron.
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
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    Moron? Coming from the guy who has stated in the past two days that:
    The only thing cops do is act like tough guys and have no real role.
    There is nothing wrong with cheating so long as one is winning.
    There is nothing wrong with using performance enhancing drugs since there is a lot of pressure on atheletes. (Is there no pressure on the ones who DON’T use drugs?)
    Wow your really knocking out the theories that will make it into the history books Zero.
    Given your way of thinking and judgment, I won’t be offended by you calling me a moron.
    I've already explained myself on all those things before. Now stop acting like a journalist, taking several things out of context and misinterpreting on purpose to make things look more serious than they really are.
     
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    IncuboRossonero

    IncuboRossonero

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    I've already explained myself on all those things before. Now stop acting like a journalist, taking several things out of context and misinterpreting on purpose to make things look more serious than they really are.
    All journalists take things out of context and mis-interpret...GOT IT.

    Any other generalizations you want to throw our way Zero? My My HOW DO YOU DO IT....

    The Intellect..the insight...the observations....amazing.
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
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    - I never said cheating was ok, fifa did. Read my posts. After WC 2002 when Italy and Spain were whining, fifa answered with "it's part of the game". Which in reality would mean cheating is part of the game.

    - I never said physical exercise and doing drugs are the same thing. I said they had the same effect.

    - I did say a lot cops are here to act cool, but I did not criticise their role in society.

    Don't interpretate my posts like that. You're a ****ing journalist, Nick.

    I don't have any moral reasoning though.
     

    Seven

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    All journalists take things out of context and mis-interpret...GOT IT.

    Any other generalizations you want to throw our way Zero? My My HOW DO YOU DO IT....

    The Intellect..the insight...the observations....amazing.
    Unbelievable. Are you doing this on purpose?

    In fact 90 % of the journalists do that, yes, it's their ****ing job. A lot of news out there is fabricated by journalists. Though I'd say there is about 10 % of journalists actually doing what they should do.

    That said, I never said all journalists act like that. YOU did. And that's exactly what a lot of journalists do. I'd like you to stop putting words in my mouth. If I say I wouldn't care if you died, I'm not saying I want you dead. Get the difference?
     

    Vinman

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    Jul 16, 2002
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    ++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


    Unbelievable. Are you doing this on purpose?

    In fact 90 % of the journalists do that, yes, it's their ****ing job. A lot of news out there is fabricated by journalists. Though I'd say there is about 10 % of journalists actually doing what they should do.

    That said, I never said all journalists act like that. YOU did. And that's exactly what a lot of journalists do. I'd like you to stop putting words in my mouth. If I say I wouldn't care if you died, I'm not saying I want you dead. Get the difference?
    Nick, dont bother with this RETARD !!!

    He's not worth debating with
     

    Eaglesnake_1

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    Mar 28, 2004
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    ++ [ originally posted by Kaiser Franco ] ++


    Paul, you're talking to a guy who excuses systematic doping on behalf of his team with the possibility that other teams have, at some point, used creatine for a month or two.
    Possibility? at some point? for a month or two?...how convinient...

    a copy-paste from another thread....


    la difesa della Juve è stata ferma e categorica su un fatto: ciò che si faceva alla Juve lo si faceva ovunque, e lo si faceva perchè consentito dal sistema calcio.

    Badate, questo non significa riproporre il concetto "tutti colpevoli, nessun colpevole", ma semmai il concetto opposto, ossia "un colpevole, tutti colpevoli" dato che se una pratica era consentita dal sistema, e quella pratica è reato, il reato è stato allora commesso da tutti.

    Zazzaroni si chiedeva come mai a Torino si è indagato e altrove no, e questa è una domanda che comincia a fare tremare, dato che in quegli anni certe cose succedevano dappertutto: sappiamo delle dichiarazioni di Bravo, giocatore bistrattato a Parma perchè non faceva uso di certi prodotti; sappiamo pure che Negro ha detto che gli integratori alla Lazio di Zeman si prendevano, e non solo integratori (voltaren e micoren); sappiamo anche che la lista dei medicinali a disposizione della infermeria juventina era inferiore a quella di almeno otto squadre di serie A, e così via.

    Come dire: la sentenza di Torino rischia di creare una reazione a catena, nella quale magari adesso certe tifoserie si divertono a dare dei drogati ai giocatori juventini dell’epoca, però se la cosa dovesse propagarsi ad altre procure, rischieremmo davvero di trovare realtà davvero sconvenienti ovunque, e del resto i casi di doping positivo in giro per l’Italia, credo ne siano un primo segnale.

    Meglio quindi cominciare a minimizzare la cosa e ovattare la questione: vi immaginate se la cosa dovesse colpire le romane (del resto il centro famigerato dell’Acquacetosa si trova proprio a Roma) o le milanesi, quale effetto devastante avrebbe?
    in quel periodo certe cose venivano consentite ed erano ritenute lecite: quindi non vi era alcuna coscienza e volontà di commettere fatti illeciti, perchè tali non erano. Ma se dobbiamo fare davvero pulizia, che la si faccia piena, senza crearsi comode vittime sacrificali per salvare l’intero mondo calcistico.
     

    Respaul

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    ++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


    Unbelievable. Are you doing this on purpose?

    In fact 90 % of the journalists do that, yes, it's their ****ing job. A lot of news out there is fabricated by journalists. Though I'd say there is about 10 % of journalists actually doing what they should do.
    Learn abit about what your speaking of, before you write this shite.... you really have no idea about journalism or how it works... so keep it buttoned
     

    Vinman

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    Jul 16, 2002
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    Learn abit about what your speaking of before write this shite.... you really have no idea about journalism or how it works... so keep it buttoned
    Paul, you wouldnt believe the ignorance that is going on all over this forum

    I've never seen it this bad before............
     
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    ++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
    I think this thread needs to get back to its roots…lets take a trip down memory lane…lets separate the Johnny-Come-Lately from the BigTimeVeterans:
    1. What was Nick against the World originally entitled?
    2. Who referred to Nick as “Dear Respected C*nt”?
    3. Who once referred to Nick as “one ugly monkey”?
    4. Which member did I NOT get into an argument with?
    5. How did the Nick=Dwarf myth begin? And why?
    6. When was “Nick” the closest to getting banned?
    7. Who was the only female poster on Nick against the World NOT to post a pic?
    8. Who was once referred to as a “dutch ass crack”?


    did i miss this ?
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
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    Learn abit about what your speaking of, before you write this shite.... you really have no idea about journalism or how it works... so keep it buttoned
    If only you knew..
     

    Dan

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    Mar 9, 2004
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    well, just commenting on the media here in Colonge, i have to agree with Seven. The non exsistant stories and smut that are printed front page is laughable.
     

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