Nick Against the World (30 Viewers)

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
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IncuboRossonero said:
I meant the points deduction everyone else received
Points deduction wouldn't have been that much anyway. Carlo should focus on his shopping and get a striker by January.

Milan can't let it go to Inter. It just can't happen, Mancini earning Scud.
 

3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
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Martin said:
futsal stinks. Playing on hard ground gives so much more friction, it's crap.

I mean compared to grass that is.

I disagree. It may have more "friction" (which is only an issue if you've got bad knees?) but the game itself is extremely fast paced. For anyone with excessive balls skills, i've found it to be even more fun than normal football.



Azzurri7 said:
Are you allowed to watch it:D?

Technically, you have to be 17 to buy a ticket (but if youre accompanied by anyone 17+ its not problem), but I just buy tickets online. In terms of parents, I could watch any movie I want since I was 3
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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Sir Sebastian said:
I disagree. It may have more "friction" (which is only an issue if you've got bad knees?) but the game itself is extremely fast paced. For anyone with excessive balls skills, i've found it to be even more fun than normal football.
Friction between the ball and the shoes, and the shoes and the floor. On grass every there is a lot of gliding, that's impossible on hard ground. The shoes are also crap in comparison with cleats, contact on the ball is nothing like the real thing.
 

3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
7,206
Martin said:
Friction between the ball and the shoes, and the shoes and the floor. On grass every there is a lot of gliding, that's impossible on hard ground. The shoes are also crap in comparison with cleats, contact on the ball is nothing like the real thing.

The friction between the ball and shoes is what makes it great, IMO. You have three times as much control, and there is almost no limit to the amount of moves and quick tricks you can pull off on a futsal court. Futsal allows for 10 year olds to look like ronaldinho, control is everything.

Eliminating the gliding and rolling aspect of full-pitch football concentrates on the more technical aspects of the game, mainly ball-control. Tactics and physical speed/strength play a smaller part in futsal.

As for the shoes, the style of control used in futsal adapts to that. When playing futsal, the majority of touches and movements on the ball are meant to be done with the sole of your shoe (flat), so the "feel" of cleats is somewhat irrelevant. In terms of being "like the real thing", futsal isn't meant to be a replication of footie, it's its own separate sport.

It's all a matter of opinion, but I just find futsal to be a great game as well.
 

Geof

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May 14, 2004
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Martin said:
Friction between the ball and the shoes, and the shoes and the floor. On grass every there is a lot of gliding, that's impossible on hard ground. The shoes are also crap in comparison with cleats, contact on the ball is nothing like the real thing.
Just don't consider Futsal as a variation of football. It's a different sport, and it's fun when it's raining and cold.:pint:
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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Sir Sebastian said:
The friction between the ball and shoes is what makes it great, IMO. You have three times as much control, and there is almost no limit to the amount of moves and quick tricks you can pull off on a futsal court. Futsal allows for 10 year olds to look like ronaldinho, control is everything.

Eliminating the gliding and rolling aspect of full-pitch football concentrates on the more technical aspects of the game, mainly ball-control. Tactics and physical speed/strength play a smaller part in futsal.
To me gliding *is* ball control. Ball control isn't about stopping the ball completely, it's about guiding the movement with slight touches, which is delightful in cleats and on grass. Maybe it's just that style of play that I've become so fond of, but I really miss that.

Some people like to throw in the classic "if you're really good the equipment doesn't matter". And that's true for some people, but once I polish my skills I really come to depend on the equipment. If I'm playing on grass (have for years) and I jump into futsal, it takes a long time to dig myself out of the ditch that is a completely unfamiliar environment. In futsal I'm reduced to 10% if you will.

As for the Ronaldinho moves, well I haven't ever seen anyone do those, few people have that ability. I've never played with anyone quick enough to do them, so that aspect doesn't show up.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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Geof said:
Just don't consider Futsal as a variation of football. It's a different sport, and it's fun when it's raining and cold.:pint:
Oh it's fun no doubt in the winter with -10 degrees and ice on the outside. It just doesn't compare at all with the real thing and I miss the large spaces a lot.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Chxta said:
Question: Where's Nick?
I spent three weeks trapesing around Europe trying to find that boy to hit him up with the ol' bladder bag. But alas, my chances were better if I had actually left Portugal. Even in Portugal, the closest I got to hanging with Rui Costa was a lifesize PT/Benfica promotional cut-out at the main CTT Correios post office in Lisbon.

I did get to go to last Sunday's Benfica-E Amadora match at the Estadio da Luz, however. And saw our old friend Fabrizio Miccoli play. So far, the past two matches I've seen Miccoli play live, he's scored in both (though the last time was against Siena in Juve stripes). It was cool seeing his warm reception in Lisbon though -- there are people selling Benfica scarves that say "SuperMiccoli" on them.

Then the guy got his second yellow and was ejected from the match. But then it wasn't exactly all his fault either. The ref, Carlos Xistra, ultimately handed out 15 yellow cards and three reds in the match. I thought I was watching a World Cup match between Portugal and the Netherlands for a moment there ... until I realized that nobody was even fouling each other. Talk about a refereeing travesty -- you know it's bad when the visiting team gets carded and the fans boo the ref anyway. I even learned a new soccer chant: "PA-LYA-SO!" ("palhaço" being the Portuguese word for "clown" ... meaning "palhaço assento" is quite literally Portuguese for "ass clown").

I have plenty of catching up to do, just landing last night. But beware... you all should see my lameass posts more often from here out. (But sending me off to Braga or Guimarães is clearly an effective strategy to shut me up for a while, given my general issues getting ready access to the Internet while up there.)
 

Geof

Senior Member
May 14, 2004
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Martin said:
Oh it's fun no doubt in the winter with -10 degrees and ice on the outside. It just doesn't compare at all with the real thing and I miss the large spaces a lot.
certainly. If I can choose between the two, I take football without question. But futsal is fun once in a while, and it gives you the opprtunity of dribbling around without risking you're legs on some Matrix-like defender.

Anyway, you should be sleeping. :sleepy:
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
swag said:
I spent three weeks trapesing around Europe trying to find that boy to hit him up with the ol' bladder bag. But alas, my chances were better if I had actually left Portugal. Even in Portugal, the closest I got to hanging with Rui Costa was a lifesize PT/Benfica promotional cut-out at the main CTT Correios post office in Lisbon.

I did get to go to last Sunday's Benfica-E Amadora match at the Estadio da Luz, however. And saw our old friend Fabrizio Miccoli play. So far, the past two matches I've seen Miccoli play live, he's scored in both (though the last time was against Siena in Juve stripes). It was cool seeing his warm reception in Lisbon though -- there are people selling Benfica scarves that say "SuperMiccoli" on them.

Then the guy got his second yellow and was ejected from the match. But then it wasn't exactly all his fault either. The ref, Carlos Xistra, ultimately handed out 15 yellow cards and three reds in the match. I thought I was watching a World Cup match between Portugal and the Netherlands for a moment there ... until I realized that nobody was even fouling each other. Talk about a refereeing travesty -- you know it's bad when the visiting team gets carded and the fans boo the ref anyway. I even learned a new soccer chant: "PA-LYA-SO!" ("palhaço" being the Portuguese word for "clown" ... meaning "palhaço assento" is quite literally Portuguese for "ass clown").

I have plenty of catching up to do, just landing last night. But beware... you all should see my lameass posts more often from here out. (But sending me off to Braga or Guimarães is clearly an effective strategy to shut me up for a while, given my general issues getting ready access to the Internet while up there.)
Good to have you back! Check the Serie-B table as well :superhapp
 

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