Nick Against the World (78 Viewers)

Lilith

Immortelle
May 19, 2006
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Jeeks said:
You guy talked about guns. I would like to generalize that to weapons :yuck:

Does a kitchen knife count as a weapon? Because this is the only thing I've used or will ever use and solely in the kitchen.

In my point of view a lot of items can become weapons depending on the usage. I threw an entire telephone at someone once, and a telephone is not something that would normally be thought of as a weapon. So it all depends on the user's intent.

Oh and just to note, my telephone throwing days are over. :p
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,414
Martin said:
Oh really? What about DRM hell? Isn't it unusable with anything other than Windows Media Player?
HA!! You can run it as a mass storage device.

I tried it on ubuntu, wothout anyt trouble or anything, the system recognized the mass storage device and I could write on it without mounting or anyting.

I :toast: Linux
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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Fliakis said:
yeah i think i remember martin saying how iriver was better than iposd some time ago. i think he even owned one.
I do own one, from the ifp series (flash based ones), it's 1gb and it works fine with linux. But I heard some very disturbing news about iRiver a while ago that apparently they've lied down flat to demands from the big bullies and they now build DRM into their players. Which make them entirely incompatible with everything.

If that's not the case, I'd be the first to recommend iRiver, I love their players.

Jeeks said:
HA!! You can run it as a mass storage device.

I tried it on ubuntu, wothout anyt trouble or anything, the system recognized the mass storage device and I could write on it without mounting or anyting.

I :toast: Linux
Really? That's fantastic! What about their other models?
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,414
Martin said:
I do own one, from the ifp series (flash based ones), it's 1gb and it works fine with linux. But I heard some very disturbing news about iRiver a while ago that apparently they've lied down flat to demands from the big bullies and they now build DRM into their players. Which make them entirely incompatible with everything.

If that's not the case, I'd be the first to recommend iRiver, I love their players.



Really? That's fantastic! What about their other models?
I think any iRiver hard disk player can be run as a mass storage device, so I don't see any problem with that. The H10 series are not the latest, but one of the newest generations. My player came with a CD that has WMP10 :yuck: So I guess starting from this series they have started their obnoxious treaty with Microsoft.

Considering that the player worked, an essential feature when having lots of music in the player is creating playlists and one cannot do that on the player itself. Earlier I used to create the lists on Winamp and send them to the player, now I have yet to figure out how to do that on Linux. I think the same way as copying to the special folder, there should be a special playlist folder one can send an m3u file to.

Another disadvantage is the firmware, I don't think it will be possible to update the firmware on anything but Windows.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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Jeeks said:
I think any iRiver hard disk player can be run as a mass storage device, so I don't see any problem with that. The H10 series are not the latest, but one of the newest generations. My player came with a CD that has WMP10 :yuck: So I guess starting from this series they have started their obnoxious treaty with Microsoft.

Considering that the player worked, an essential feature when having lots of music in the player is creating playlists and one cannot do that on the player itself. Earlier I used to create the lists on Winamp and send them to the player, now I have yet to figure out how to do that on Linux. I think the same way as copying to the special folder, there should be a special playlist folder one can send an m3u file to.

Another disadvantage is the firmware, I don't think it will be possible to update the firmware on anything but Windows.
Aha, so it's not a complete lockdown, but it's definitely going that way. I hear WMP has its own "music protocol" for transferring files between players, I'm surprised your iRiver doesn't depend on that one.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,414
Martin said:
Aha, so it's not a complete lockdown, but it's definitely going that way. I hear WMP has its own "music protocol" for transferring files between players, I'm surprised your iRiver doesn't depend on that one.
Yes it does have a special protocol that is completely retarded. Winamp uses the same protocol. When I first connected my device as mass storage device, I went to browse the music folder and I couldn't believe my eyes. I don't know why would they complicate things in the organizing of folders. It was a total mess. I will give you an example.

I had an album with various artists copied using Winamp, I found that it was scattered in folders each having the name of the artist, then inside this folder a folder with the name of the album and then inside a file with the name of the song. I mean what are ID3tags for?

I decided to test, so I copied another album with various artists but I just copied pasted the ONE folder that had all the songs. To my surprise, I could browse the album using genre, artist, album and song title.
 

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