Nick Against the World (84 Viewers)

[The Pado]

The clothes dont make you the man,its the way you handle yourself.

Unfortunately for u Andy has a huge advantage,woman notice things like clothes even if its insignificant to a guy.

DA!

Andy is an expert at handling himself

 

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Da!

That fooker.

 

[Lilith]

Why did that guy bother to wear pants? Just paint your business gray and go on walkabout.

Yep that was quite gross.

 

[The Pado]

Aye, ya



WANK






HOLE

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I might wank into your babymaker hole, Pado.... deal?

 

[The Pado]

I might wank into your babymaker hole, Pado.... deal?

And you thought Maldini had the best vagina in town.

 

[The Pado]

I am so pleased that we are rid of that giant piece o' crap Ibrahimovic. Once again Inter have overpaid for a shite player.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

And you thought Maldini had the best vagina in town.

I underestimated yours.

 

[flieeeekke]

ibra out? woot!




hello from budapest!

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Hey, what up Fli?

 

[3pac]

I could never spend more than like $50 on a pair of jeans. Anything more seems to me that it would be a waste of money.

I didn't pay for them

 

[GordoDeCentral]

dang!! burke's cousin is swow http://youtube.com/watch?v=nIHLcxEA55Q

 

[Dan]

now thats a specimen of a man.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

yeah its pretty amazing

 

[Seven]

For one that is not what ullrich and basso arer accused of and even if it was it is not as simple as that... it all sounds simple in theory but the reality is different...

The simple fact is for your average athlete (43%Hm), they can only increase their blood volume by 10% before the Hm level hits the dreaded 50.. Like it or not, thats how it is.So if you did a simple volume increase the benefits are limited and you are likely to jus plain die

As for the current case, Its about the accepted blood doping method of today, (as opposed to the straight volume increase of the arc ages)That is about autoglogous transfusions, where by a rider has an amount of their own blood removed, this is then put in a centrifuge and the red cells are seperated. Only the red cells are kept, the rest is discarded.

These red cells are then put in cold storage till required.
Once needed these cells are re-introduced to the body... It is not a simple volume increase, it is a red cell increase only.

This method allows a massive gain to a lesser Hm increase than the use of EPO etc, but it still massively increases Hm... As such the Hm level is still indicative of drug use or blood doping...

You cannot jus increase volume, the effects are marginal and incredibly dangerous... To blood dope you have to only use red cells (in essence oxygenated blood) to enable you to get worthwhile gain whilst to an acceptable extent being able to control your Hm and ensuring that you dont jus plain drop down dead with sticky jam syndrome...

I was told by several doctors that the influence of pumping up your blood level isn't all that dangerous really. Sure your body isn't made for it, but it adapts anyway. It's not as if you're keeping all that volume. I'm sure there can be complications, but I guess that well trained athletes can take a lot.

Obviously the Hm level is still indicative, but a cyclist who ends the Tour de France with a Hm level of 45 did something wrong. There's no way your Hm level can be that high without doing doping. Yet it is what happens.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

dang!! burke's cousin is swow http://youtube.com/watch?v=nIHLcxEA55Q

That's not my cousin, that's me, Tyrone Shoes.

 

[Respaul]

I was told by several doctors that the influence of pumping up your blood level isn't all that dangerous really.

Well i hope i never have the pleasure of being treated by these doctors, They clearly have no idea , Hey but maybe you and your non descript doctors are correct and the leading most respected doctors in the field of blood / doping research and analysis, not to mention the words of the 2 most prominent and notorious dope doctors in the world today are bullshit and they dont know what they are talking about... oh well the theories the entire worlds anti doping policy is based on is wrong... ok

Sure your body isn't made for it, but it adapts anyway. It's not as if you're keeping all that volume. I'm sure there can be complications, but I guess that well trained athletes can take a lot.

Whilst it is true minor rises in blood volume can be adjusted too by the natural process of the body (as indeed it does with the natural volume fluctuations that occur in everyday life) the increases you talk of, the likes of a 3 litre boost is massively dangerous and the body could not cope with it...

You're sure there can be complications ?? Yeah i spose massively increased heart load, increased atheroma, heart attack, heart failure, arterial clots, strokes and chronic renal failure are mere complications...

Obviously the Hm level is still indicative,

Which is all i said in the first place... i simply said if you track the average Hm level within the peloton over the last 8 years it is indicative of a massive drop in the use of doping within the sport... Which is 100% true... Yet you came out with all this other stuff...

but a cyclist who ends the Tour de France with a Hm level of 45 did something wrong. There's no way your Hm level can be that high without doing doping. Yet it is what happens.

lol... Do some research, the average Hm level of a normal sea level human falls in the range between 40 and 45... 45 is not indiactive of doping at all and for many is indeed a completely natural level... If you look to the likes of botero or vaughters due to living at altitude their natural Hm level is 51...

My own personal Hm level from my yearly medical last week is 44.. So im clearly doping too ? If so for what ?

Im sorry seven, but whilst some of your theories are in essence correct, your facts and figures and the actual reality of these ideals is way way off...

And there our discussion on this ends.. Im not gonna argue with you about a subject you are obviously not fully clued up on (though persistent). This a subject close to me that i have spent a large chunk of the last ten years researching, A subject i have numerous published articles on, an area of said subject i only deal with facts on, not guesses, thoughts etc... A subject that anything ive said here is backed up by the most respected and important people in this field..

 

[Slagathor]

Cycling? You go away for a few days and people are so completely void of interesting topics of conversations they are one step away from creating an environment that would allow for the return of Zlatan Balta.

Oh wait...

 

[Enron]

I didn't pay for them

Then you sir are on your way to becoming The Man.

 

[Seven]

Well i hope i never have the pleasure of being treated by these doctors, They clearly have no idea , Hey but maybe you and your non descript doctors are correct and the leading most respected doctors in the field of blood / doping research and analysis, not to mention the words of the 2 most prominent and notorious dope doctors in the world today are bullshit and they dont know what they are talking about... oh well the theories the entire worlds anti doping policy is based on is wrong... ok



Whilst it is true minor rises in blood volume can be adjusted too by the natural process of the body (as indeed it does with the natural volume fluctuations that occur in everyday life) the increases you talk of, the likes of a 3 litre boost is massively dangerous and the body could not cope with it...

You're sure there can be complications ?? Yeah i spose massively increased heart load, increased atheroma, heart attack, heart failure, arterial clots, strokes and chronic renal failure are mere complications...



Which is all i said in the first place... i simply said if you track the average Hm level within the peloton over the last 8 years it is indicative of a massive drop in the use of doping within the sport... Which is 100% true... Yet you came out with all this other stuff...



lol... Do some research, the average Hm level of a normal sea level human falls in the range between 40 and 45... 45 is not indiactive of doping at all and for many is indeed a completely natural level... If you look to the likes of botero or vaughters due to living at altitude their natural Hm level is 51...

My own personal Hm level from my yearly medical last week is 44.. So im clearly doping too ? If so for what ?

Im sorry seven, but whilst some of your theories are in essence correct, your facts and figures and the actual reality of these ideals is way way off...

And there our discussion on this ends.. Im not gonna argue with you about a subject you are obviously not fully clued up on (though persistent). This a subject close to me that i have spent a large chunk of the last ten years researching, A subject i have numerous published articles on, an area of said subject i only deal with facts on, not guesses, thoughts etc... A subject that anything ive said here is backed up by the most respected and important people in this field..

Here's the catch. Well trained athletes usually have a lower Hm level, because their blood is thinner. After riding a Tour de France your Hm level should have dropped. Therefore it's rather unnatural to end with 45.

Obviously the number of 3 litres I posted wasn't meant to be representative, as I obviously don't have a clue about those figures. I'm sure no doctor just pumps 3 extra litres in someone's body, people would simply blow up that way.