Nick Against the World (78 Viewers)
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OK, I thought a "Toss Pot" was a pot to jerk off in to. Guess I was wrong.
Tom was not pissing on Catholics when he went ape shit about religion, it was CHRISTIANS that he pissed on. All of them. For the record, he never mentioned Catholics. He did that in the "Pope is near Death" thread.
Andy get over your EPL-phobia. The situation in English football is basically that which you will find in every major football league in the world. Sounds like you are trying to provoke.
Seven, is it really that important to you and "Centro" that he not be banned. FFS, it's not life and death, so why make 1o posts about how unfair his ban was?
Just some wisdom I thought I would share.
P.S. Claire - too bad about the darkies
Tom was not pissing on Catholics when he went ape shit about religion, it was CHRISTIANS that he pissed on. All of them. For the record, he never mentioned Catholics. He did that in the "Pope is near Death" thread.
Andy get over your EPL-phobia. The situation in English football is basically that which you will find in every major football league in the world. Sounds like you are trying to provoke.
Seven, is it really that important to you and "Centro" that he not be banned. FFS, it's not life and death, so why make 1o posts about how unfair his ban was?
Just some wisdom I thought I would share.
P.S. Claire - too bad about the darkies
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Out of context??
What a joke Paul. People get WARNED because they heard English food is crap but basic human respect about other people's beliefs and faiths goes under the radar...
I think I got it...let's end it here...I know you are not on the same 'page' as Tom so its not worth arguing for someone else.
What a joke Paul. People get WARNED because they heard English food is crap but basic human respect about other people's beliefs and faiths goes under the radar...
I think I got it...let's end it here...I know you are not on the same 'page' as Tom so its not worth arguing for someone else.
Where did i say toms posts were out of context ???
Oh yes... I didnt as you well know... I purely made the point that andy posting 2 quotes means nothing without the rest of the post/thread.... Not the same thing.... Whether toms posts were in or out of context... I have no idea as no one has ever shown these threads....
Is it really such a hardship for you to produce these posts / threads where tom apparently committed the crime he is accused of ??
You keep saying he done this, he done that... yet whenever anyone has asked to see these post so we can all see what was or was not said... they are never forthcoming.... Why is that ??
Please jus show us, so we all know what you are talking about....
oh dont make me laugh... Warned indeed... as though i could warn anyone on an internet board...
Plus why you go on about one particular incident that wasnt even a big deal i do not know... That was a minor issue... not anywhere near what this is about... as such my attitude to that has no relevance in relation to this whatsoever...
Also as you know over the time here i have stood against racism, homophobia, nationalism, bigotry etc as much and probably more than any other member here....
All I am asking here is for you to show what this is about.... Is it really asking too much to ask to see some evidence...
We all have to read this stuff every day but without being shown what its about...
If you read my posts regarding this Nick... You know that this has never been an argument between me and any of you on this subject... Its allways jus purely been a case of me asking to be shown what this is all about.... I have to read it everyday and i also have to see you all having ago at someone i admittedly like... So i think it is only fair that i am able to ask what its all about...
Iechyd Da
Oh yes... I didnt as you well know... I purely made the point that andy posting 2 quotes means nothing without the rest of the post/thread.... Not the same thing.... Whether toms posts were in or out of context... I have no idea as no one has ever shown these threads....
Is it really such a hardship for you to produce these posts / threads where tom apparently committed the crime he is accused of ??
You keep saying he done this, he done that... yet whenever anyone has asked to see these post so we can all see what was or was not said... they are never forthcoming.... Why is that ??
Please jus show us, so we all know what you are talking about....
oh dont make me laugh... Warned indeed... as though i could warn anyone on an internet board...
Plus why you go on about one particular incident that wasnt even a big deal i do not know... That was a minor issue... not anywhere near what this is about... as such my attitude to that has no relevance in relation to this whatsoever...
Also as you know over the time here i have stood against racism, homophobia, nationalism, bigotry etc as much and probably more than any other member here....
All I am asking here is for you to show what this is about.... Is it really asking too much to ask to see some evidence...
We all have to read this stuff every day but without being shown what its about...
If you read my posts regarding this Nick... You know that this has never been an argument between me and any of you on this subject... Its allways jus purely been a case of me asking to be shown what this is all about.... I have to read it everyday and i also have to see you all having ago at someone i admittedly like... So i think it is only fair that i am able to ask what its all about...
Iechyd Da
Where exactly does chelseas being in front by a fair margin have any bearing on whether its a more competitive league... It doesnt... Chelseas could win by 50 points and could still be a more competitive league than in the past....
What one team does means nothing to how competitive the league as a whole is...
This season has been one of the closest starts across the board in the history of the epl... As such its more competive...
You also fail to mention how liverpool have 2 games in hand... manu and arsenal also have a game in hand...
Those teams are all capable of beating chelsea on their day ... which would again shorten any gaps....
Plus no team has ever gone throughout the whole season without a slump... chelseas will have theirs at some point...
Plus as a juve fan you should well know how easy it is to drop a 10 point lead... we've done it often enough...
Making any judgement on the season as a whole at this point is a complete joke... Make an evaluation at the half way point and it might mean something....
The start is also not very different from in serie a... with juve comparable to chelseas starts... And manu and milans starts also very similar....
What one team does means nothing to how competitive the league as a whole is...
This season has been one of the closest starts across the board in the history of the epl... As such its more competive...
You also fail to mention how liverpool have 2 games in hand... manu and arsenal also have a game in hand...
Those teams are all capable of beating chelsea on their day ... which would again shorten any gaps....
Plus no team has ever gone throughout the whole season without a slump... chelseas will have theirs at some point...
Plus as a juve fan you should well know how easy it is to drop a 10 point lead... we've done it often enough...
Making any judgement on the season as a whole at this point is a complete joke... Make an evaluation at the half way point and it might mean something....
The start is also not very different from in serie a... with juve comparable to chelseas starts... And manu and milans starts also very similar....
Again fli... I never siad they were out of context...
But even if they are full posts... They mean little without the section of a thread that they are talking about...
All im asking is for someone to show a thread and say read from page ? to page ?... So that we can all see what this is about...
Ive seen Tom himself ask for this from his accusers before as well... without ever being shown them....
You cant say someone did something and not show what he did...
But even if they are full posts... They mean little without the section of a thread that they are talking about...
All im asking is for someone to show a thread and say read from page ? to page ?... So that we can all see what this is about...
Ive seen Tom himself ask for this from his accusers before as well... without ever being shown them....
You cant say someone did something and not show what he did...
EPL-phobia...sell that to your waitress at the Olive Garden.
I don't know what major leagues you're refering to because the situation in England is not exactly common. After only six matches you could see who would challenge Chelsea for the title, and that number is zero I'm afraid. Chelsea continues to win even while playing like crap and the supposed main contenders Manure, Liverpool, and Arsenal are losing at home, drawing against easy opposition, and not playing well at all. I think you would be lying to yourself if you think anybody other than Chelsea will win the title...nobody is going to touch them and the title is already decided as far as I'm concerned. Wasn't trying to provoke at all...this is the cruel reality.
I don't know what major leagues you're refering to because the situation in England is not exactly common. After only six matches you could see who would challenge Chelsea for the title, and that number is zero I'm afraid. Chelsea continues to win even while playing like crap and the supposed main contenders Manure, Liverpool, and Arsenal are losing at home, drawing against easy opposition, and not playing well at all. I think you would be lying to yourself if you think anybody other than Chelsea will win the title...nobody is going to touch them and the title is already decided as far as I'm concerned. Wasn't trying to provoke at all...this is the cruel reality.
I don't see what the problem is here...you took part in the Pope's thread yourself, you know what happened. If the quotes exist the threads obviously exist as well. People have the right to voice their opinions, however that does not take away from the fact that his comments were made for the sole purpose of provocation.
My original joke comment has nothing to do with the competiveness of the League as a whole...I was just implying that only a couple matches into the season we basically have the winner already and no other clubs come close to touching the leaders. And you stated yourself that Chelsea have been playing rather poorly...that just points to more domination further down the road when they actually hit top form.
Arsenal and Manure are not as strong as they were last season, and even with the money spent and time involved Benitez still cannot get his team going in the EPL. And the matches I have seen thus far have been very disapointing...not the same type of exciting matches we have seen in the past from the bigger clubs and people are right when they say the EPL is not as exciting anymore.
You realistically believe any other club will challenge Chelsea for the title this year??? Come on Paul..
Arsenal and Manure are not as strong as they were last season, and even with the money spent and time involved Benitez still cannot get his team going in the EPL. And the matches I have seen thus far have been very disapointing...not the same type of exciting matches we have seen in the past from the bigger clubs and people are right when they say the EPL is not as exciting anymore.
You realistically believe any other club will challenge Chelsea for the title this year??? Come on Paul..
Firstly... What did my post have to do with whether chelsea would or would not win the league this year... oh yes, Nothing whatsoever...
That post was purely in response to your post saying i was wrong to say that the epl has been more competitive this season... which it has....
As for chelsea.... Do i think they will win... Yes... Did i think they would win before the league started... Yes.... Do i think with 31 games remaining they have won it allready... No ofcourse not that is absolutely ridiculous....
A ten point lead at this stage... though a nice thing to have... means nothing... Take away the points for the games in hand and it means even less...
You also havent mentioned key injuries within both rival squads...
Chelsea will get their fair share of that as the season goes on.... So far they have only had todo without terry for 1 match and del hornos injury... which is airly meaningless as hes a new comer anyway... hasnt been there long enough for them to miss him...
Whereas man u and dial have lost for long periods the likes of henry, heinze, keane, neville...etc... all key players for their teams...
Did i say chelsea were playing badly ? If i did that wasnt what i meant to write... I thought i said they had struggled... Which they have, but i wouldnt say they had been playing badly....
Personally... I hope they do win and the easier the better....
But to say its over now is jus plain dumb...
Wasnt it you that said inter were a joke and that it would be the same old story after they lost the other week... Yet now they are only 3 points behind and can draw level next week...
Nothing can be really seen until at least xmas in any of the leagues... Leads come and go, far too easily....
How many times have we dropped a 10 point lead or for that matter gained one back.... It happens all the time
That post was purely in response to your post saying i was wrong to say that the epl has been more competitive this season... which it has....
As for chelsea.... Do i think they will win... Yes... Did i think they would win before the league started... Yes.... Do i think with 31 games remaining they have won it allready... No ofcourse not that is absolutely ridiculous....
A ten point lead at this stage... though a nice thing to have... means nothing... Take away the points for the games in hand and it means even less...
You also havent mentioned key injuries within both rival squads...
Chelsea will get their fair share of that as the season goes on.... So far they have only had todo without terry for 1 match and del hornos injury... which is airly meaningless as hes a new comer anyway... hasnt been there long enough for them to miss him...
Whereas man u and dial have lost for long periods the likes of henry, heinze, keane, neville...etc... all key players for their teams...
Did i say chelsea were playing badly ? If i did that wasnt what i meant to write... I thought i said they had struggled... Which they have, but i wouldnt say they had been playing badly....
Personally... I hope they do win and the easier the better....
But to say its over now is jus plain dumb...
Wasnt it you that said inter were a joke and that it would be the same old story after they lost the other week... Yet now they are only 3 points behind and can draw level next week...
Nothing can be really seen until at least xmas in any of the leagues... Leads come and go, far too easily....
How many times have we dropped a 10 point lead or for that matter gained one back.... It happens all the time
I think dropping a decent point lead happens in the Serie A more than it happens in the EPL. Last season we dropped our eight point lead against mid-table teams and not against title contenders.
I don't see any mid-table team in the EPL able to take points away from Chelsea. The top teams can do that, but I don't think they will.
I guess this is what Andy meant, is that if top teams cannot take points from Chelsea, then the mid-table teams cannot.
I don't see any mid-table team in the EPL able to take points away from Chelsea. The top teams can do that, but I don't think they will.
I guess this is what Andy meant, is that if top teams cannot take points from Chelsea, then the mid-table teams cannot.
Personally... what was written six months or so on an interrnet forum is not something that sticks in my memory...
Of course if the quotes exist the threads do to.... So then why is it so hard for you to supply links to the first posts that are of concern so we can all see exactly what was said by each side... If you are continually to make accusations, whether right or wrong (i have no idea) surely it is only fair that you supply the evidence to back it up
Yet I don't know why you brought the competitiveness of the league into this argument...it had nothing to do with it.
But if you must...I don't know how you can call a league extremely competitive when one club ran away with the title last year and is running away with it again this year.
You may think it's dumb, however I do not see it that way. It's a valid prediction and has more truth behind it than not in a hypothetical sense. If I'm wrong and Chelsea slips up and loses the title you can personally come here and tell me I'm dumb to my face.
I don't think you have the right man, however calling Inter a joke is quite simply and quite literally.......a joke.
Irrelevant.
But if you must...I don't know how you can call a league extremely competitive when one club ran away with the title last year and is running away with it again this year.
You may think it's dumb, however I do not see it that way. It's a valid prediction and has more truth behind it than not in a hypothetical sense. If I'm wrong and Chelsea slips up and loses the title you can personally come here and tell me I'm dumb to my face.
I don't think you have the right man, however calling Inter a joke is quite simply and quite literally.......a joke.
Irrelevant.
When did you ? which thread was that in ? Never een it myself... ive seen tom ask you to show these posts, but ive never seen you show them....
What threads are they... the only one i know of is the pope one... which i have no idea what it was called btw....
Search function... Didnt even know there was one, yet alone know how it works...
Why is it so dificult for you to show what the fuss is about... you can attack someone at everyturn but you cant show anyone why... pretty lame...
Why are other posts relevant.... Because they show the context.... they show whether there was provocation... they show whether the comments were lighthearted or insulting.... they show whether these posts were a reaction to others or jus straight out... they sghow others reactions to said posts... etc etc
What threads are they... the only one i know of is the pope one... which i have no idea what it was called btw....
Search function... Didnt even know there was one, yet alone know how it works...
Why is it so dificult for you to show what the fuss is about... you can attack someone at everyturn but you cant show anyone why... pretty lame...
Why are other posts relevant.... Because they show the context.... they show whether there was provocation... they show whether the comments were lighthearted or insulting.... they show whether these posts were a reaction to others or jus straight out... they sghow others reactions to said posts... etc etc