Nick Against the World (38 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++
hell no


what will make our passion stronger is that we like different football teams

Interesting.

However, if this sort of issue would pose a problem for a prospective relationship, how many here would switch clubs? Would people here support a "hated" rival if your love life depended on it?

 

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[Nicole]

i think youre too complicated andy

 

[Dragon]

nicole is simple, you should know that by now andy

 

[Bjerknes]

I don't know what to believe now. :undecide:

*see msn chat*

 

[Dragon]

i always suspected really

 

[Nicole]

im secretly wishing he isnt gay


but he likes someone else

 

[baggio]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
I believe in a soulmate, or finding the absolute perfect person for yourself. There might be 50 particular "perfect" partners for you in this world, however finding one of them could be extremely difficult. I sure have not found my "soulmate" yet, unless it's there and I'm not noticing her...that right there could be another problem: your own blindness to love.

Spot on Andy. I dont believe in the 'perfect partner' bit. But I believe in the concept of a soulmate. That relationship again, for lack of a better term, isnt necessarily based on love.

 

[baggio]

++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++
nicole is simple

:LOL:

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Interesting.

However, if this sort of issue would pose a problem for a prospective relationship, how many here would switch clubs? Would people here support a "hated" rival if your love life depended on it?

Some opposing conflicts are sweet in a relationship.

 

[jaecole]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++


That's unacceptable. Also a likely scenario, however. In which case I'll switch to plan B: suicide. What point is there in living if what you want doesn't exist?

Suicide has such an affect on others. You don't just destroy yourself you destroy everything around you. That's unacceptable imo.

And people need to stop killing themselves ffs.

 

[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
Suicide has such an affect on others. You don't just destroy yourself you destroy everything around you. That's unacceptable imo.

And people need to stop killing themselves ffs.

I am well aware of the effect it can have on others since one of my closest friends committed suicide earlier this year. That doen't change the fact that everyone has the right to end their own lives.

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++


That's unacceptable. Also a likely scenario, however. In which case I'll switch to plan B: suicide. What point is there in living if what you want doesn't exist?

remember the story about the girl on your blog?

 

[jaecole]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++


I am well aware of the effect it can have on others since one of my closest friends committed suicide earlier this year. That doen't change the fact that everyone has the right to end their own lives.

Didn't say you didn't have the right. Just said saying it isn't acceptable imo. It's selfish. Wouldn't your friend committing suicide put you off? Sorry to hear that btw.

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++


Erik, gay or straight, its complicated for everyone... your not unique or even in the minority... Most eventually find what they are looking for

hope so. personally, i've been in 2 serious relationships, one from 16 to 18, other 19 to 22. both came to an ugly end solely because of me, i just got bored (well not bored, but cant think of a better word). now im just scared that i wont be able to live normal family life, 2 3 years and i'll just get tired of it.

ok, blah blah, soulmates and stuff dont exist. funny that two teenagers are telling that.

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++


Suicide has such an affect on others. You don't just destroy yourself you destroy everything around you. That's unacceptable imo.

And people need to stop killing themselves ffs.

Opinion is divided about that and we've seen some very different attitudes towards suicide in the past.

Aristoteles for example said it was unacceptable to commit suicide because you would take your life away from the state. A life the state needed in order to become prosperous.

Plato said it was unacceptable to commit suicide because you would take away your life from a divine power. You would take what wasn't yours. Who commits suicide is a thief.

Romans thought it was noble to commit suicide when you had to do so in order to keep your honour. You were better off killing yourself than being humiliated.

IMO your friends, parents or brothers and sisters have nothing to say about your life. You need to think about whether you can risk hurting them, perhaps they can even convince you not to commit suicide, but IMO they have no right whatsoever to keep you from commiting suicide.

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Fliakis ] ++



hope so. personally, i've been in 2 serious relationships, one from 16 to 18, other 19 to 22. both came to an ugly end solely because of me, i just got bored (well not bored, but cant think of a better word). now im just scared that i wont be able to live normal family life, 2 3 years and i'll just get tired of it.

ok, blah blah, soulmates and stuff dont exist. funny that two teenagers are telling that.

A soulmate simply doesn't exist. The idea isn't reasonable at all. What I do believe in however is Andy's version: there probably are a couple of people you could get along with very well and you could have a serious relationship with. I don't think it's possible to have a relationship that lasts 40 years though. Unless you eventually become friends rather than lovers that is.

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


A soulmate simply doesn't exist. The idea isn't reasonable at all. What I do believe in however is Andy's version: there probably are a couple of people you could get along with very well and you could have a serious relationship with. I don't think it's possible to have a relationship that lasts 40 years though. Unless you eventually become friends rather than lovers that is.

when you're involved with someone for 40 years i think its more important to be a friend rather than a lover..

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++


I am well aware of the effect it can have on others since one of my closest friends committed suicide earlier this year. That doen't change the fact that everyone has the right to end their own lives.

then again, its not that i disagree with you. i sometimes think that myself, if my lifes goes to hell it would be easiest just end it.

 

[baggio]

I dont agree. Suicide is not the answer to anything. Its a completely selfish act. I think its not so much about what you're taking with you. Its about what you leave behind. And that is your existence in the hearts of people who have known and loved you too long to have to bond with you through such intangibility.



As for relationships. 40 years? Damn, I dont think I could share my space with anybody for even 4 years. And like somebody rightfully said, to make things last between two people, it needs to be more about friendship than 'love.'

 

[flieeeekke]

suicide is indeed selfish. but if everyhting goes wrong and you've no idea how to fix that is it worth living just to keep others "happy" even though your existence might not be appreciated by those who you try to please asfosdghklsjglsg...


anyway, is it worth living to please others when your dont want to live yourself?