News that makes you say WTF! (41 Viewers)

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,325
If Italy went to shits and Somalia had some sort of stability/peace, I'd have a HUGE smile on my face but would be disappointed no more Calshio. Would be #1 advocate of leaving their migrants drown on our shores. An eye for an eye.
Lol. You wouldn't. You're just hurting.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,488
If Italy went to shits and Somalia had some sort of stability/peace, I'd have a HUGE smile on my face but would be disappointed no more Calshio. Would be #1 advocate of leaving their migrants drown on our shores. An eye for an eye.
Sometimes you should really just think, walaalo, disease of the mind will ingulf you and yours otherwise.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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So basically the sub-human was from Manchester, studying at Salford Uni, family from Libya.

Last few months he suddenly started showing hardline Islamist tendencies, scared his mother enough for her to return to Libya, goes off to Libya himself a few weeks ago and then returns to blow up a bunch of kids and parents. "He was known to the authorities". Really? I imagine there were one or two red flags showing up with this guy.

Not good enough.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,560
So basically the sub-human was from Manchester, studying at Salford Uni, family from Libya.

Last few months he suddenly started showing hardline Islamist tendencies, scared his mother enough for her to return to Libya, goes off to Libya himself a few weeks ago and then returns to blow up a bunch of kids and parents. "He was known to the authorities". Really? I imagine there were one or two red flags showing up with this guy.

Not good enough.
and he wasn't alone:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40023488
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
32,951
So basically the sub-human was from Manchester, studying at Salford Uni, family from Libya.

Last few months he suddenly started showing hardline Islamist tendencies, scared his mother enough for her to return to Libya, goes off to Libya himself a few weeks ago and then returns to blow up a bunch of kids and parents. "He was known to the authorities". Really? I imagine there were one or two red flags showing up with this guy.

Not good enough.
Just like the truck driver of berlin and many terrorists more. Authorities are out of their depth and lack cash, human ressources and a more permissive legislative on dealing with islamists
 

JuveJay

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Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,895
Just like the truck driver of berlin and many terrorists more. Authorities are out of their depth and lack cash, human ressources and a more permissive legislative on dealing with islamists
The latter seems to be the biggest hold up, infringing on their "(sub-)human rights".

Allegedly there are about 3000 higher-risk people living in this country who - given the chance or knowledge - may well commit acts of this kind in the country. In an ideal world the intelligence services should be over these people like a rash. Perhaps legislation needs to change.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
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The latter seems to be the biggest hold up, infringing on their "(sub-)human rights".

Allegedly there are about 3000 higher-risk people living in this country who - given the chance or knowledge - may well commit acts of this kind in the country. In an ideal world the intelligence services should be over these people like a rash. Perhaps legislation needs to change.
I am seeing the far left blame this on Western interventions in the Middle East. We're being squeezed by Islamist apologists on one side and neo-fascists and science deniers on the other, while the center is dominated by neocons and neoliberals. Politics today really is a shitshow.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,249
Do you know how much money there is to be made in smuggling people?! Do you know how much money these refugees fork up to be in these boats?!

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes...siness-refugee-smuggling-150913113527788.html

It pays to destabilize, not surprised one bit that these Libyan "coastguards" are EU backed.

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What the Libyan coastguard has done is no different then what happens on any European coast that is being approached by a boat full of refugees. Often times knowing that these boats only have enough supplies for a one way trip, they great them guns and force them to u-turn. You can imagine what goes on during that trip back.
These people fork up every bit of their belongings to flee misery just to be greeted by more misery.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...n-Turkish-waters-fishermans-film-alleges.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...gees-killed-helicopter-attack-off-yemen-coast

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...y-recovers-45-bodies-after-refugee-boat-sinks

Nothing new....
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,754
Do you know how much money there is to be made in smuggling people?! Do you know how much money these refugees fork up to be in these boats?!

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes...siness-refugee-smuggling-150913113527788.html

It pays to destabilize, not surprised one bit that these Libyan "coastguards" are EU backed.

- - - Updated - - -

What the Libyan coastguard has done is no different then what happens on any European coast that is being approached by a boat full of refugees. Often times knowing that these boats only have enough supplies for a one way trip, they great them guns and force them to u-turn. You can imagine what goes on during that trip back.
These people fork up every bit of their belongings to flee misery just to be greeted by more misery.

- - - Updated - - -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...n-Turkish-waters-fishermans-film-alleges.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...gees-killed-helicopter-attack-off-yemen-coast

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...y-recovers-45-bodies-after-refugee-boat-sinks

Nothing new....
That was my point
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,249
Actually since the coast guard was Libyan he most likely chased the refugees fleeing the state

Authorities linked to the fragile Government of National Accord (GNA) have been forcing boats launched by smugglers back to the coast in what human rights organisations say is a violation of non-refoulement protections under international law.
Why would these Libyans force fellow Libyan refugees back into a failed states in such a violent manner??

Widespread lawlessness has allowed people smugglers to expand their lucrative trade, linking up with gangs who detain and extort migrants, ransoming them or forcing them into labour at “slave markets” and prostitution.
This is all in that same article...everything is about that $$$$

So your point doesn't exactly hold water
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Do you know how much money there is to be made in smuggling people?! Do you know how much money these refugees fork up to be in these boats?!

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes...siness-refugee-smuggling-150913113527788.html

It pays to destabilize, not surprised one bit that these Libyan "coastguards" are EU backed.

- - - Updated - - -

What the Libyan coastguard has done is no different then what happens on any European coast that is being approached by a boat full of refugees. Often times knowing that these boats only have enough supplies for a one way trip, they great them guns and force them to u-turn. You can imagine what goes on during that trip back.
These people fork up every bit of their belongings to flee misery just to be greeted by more misery.

- - - Updated - - -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...n-Turkish-waters-fishermans-film-alleges.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...gees-killed-helicopter-attack-off-yemen-coast

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...y-recovers-45-bodies-after-refugee-boat-sinks

Nothing new....
Maybe they should just stay in their country and not go to the western civilization if it's so bad here?
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,249
Maybe they should just stay in their country and not go to the western civilization if it's so bad here?
Most would love to stay in their countries.....unfortunately they flee from western civilization greatest export....destabilizing states they don't like.
Hope you'll be able to relate first hand :baus:
 

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