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king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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The part about Iranians is not entirely true though. Their conditions in those camps are horrible, no doubt, but only a very small percentage of them are escaping political prosecution (even if that's what they say themselves), and many of them are not even ethnic minorities. Political dissidents often go anywhere they are safe (mostly Turkey) and ethnic minorities can easily seek asylum in places with less strict policies (e.g., Canada and even the US). Many of them are not even poor (the poorest don't leave Iran usually). They just want to go, legally or illegally, and they have no idea what's expecting them. In fact, for many of them it goes like "we'll survive the bad conditions and then we'll be free". What they face however is so freaking sad and inhumane, especially for children who have no say in their miserable fate. That said, they make me angry because they are part of why war stricken people like Syrians are not welcomed when fleeing death. Iran is a relatively stable country, there are of course so many problems with so many aspects of the country, and the regime does indeed harass minorities (as well as the vast majority of the shia muslim population), but it's more than livable, especially for a person who is unskilled. An unskilled worker has a far greater chance of making it at home when relatives and family members are supportive and they know the language, than in a developed country like Australia.
 

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Jun 25, 2003
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The part about Iranians is not entirely true though. Their conditions in those camps are horrible, no doubt, but only a very small percentage of them are escaping political prosecution (even if that's what they say themselves), and many of them are not even ethnic minorities. Political dissidents often go anywhere they are safe (mostly Turkey) and ethnic minorities can easily seek asylum in places with less strict policies (e.g., Canada and even the US). Many of them are not even poor (the poorest don't leave Iran usually). They just want to go, legally or illegally, and they have no idea what's expecting them. In fact, for many of them it goes like "we'll survive the bad conditions and then we'll be free". What they face however is so freaking sad and inhumane, especially for children who have no say in their miserable fate. That said, they make me angry because they are part of why war stricken people like Syrians are not welcomed when fleeing death. Iran is a relatively stable country, there are of course so many problems with so many aspects of the country, and the regime does indeed harass minorities (as well as the vast majority of the shia muslim population), but it's more than livable, especially for a person who is unskilled. An unskilled worker has a far greater chance of making it at home when relatives and family members are supportive and they know the language, than in a developed country like Australia.
Wait, I'm confused. What part about Iran?
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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The part about Iranians is not entirely true though. Their conditions in those camps are horrible, no doubt, but only a very small percentage of them are escaping political prosecution (even if that's what they say themselves), and many of them are not even ethnic minorities. Political dissidents often go anywhere they are safe (mostly Turkey) and ethnic minorities can easily seek asylum in places with less strict policies (e.g., Canada and even the US). Many of them are not even poor (the poorest don't leave Iran usually). They just want to go, legally or illegally, and they have no idea what's expecting them. In fact, for many of them it goes like "we'll survive the bad conditions and then we'll be free". What they face however is so freaking sad and inhumane, especially for children who have no say in their miserable fate. That said, they make me angry because they are part of why war stricken people like Syrians are not welcomed when fleeing death. Iran is a relatively stable country, there are of course so many problems with so many aspects of the country, and the regime does indeed harass minorities (as well as the vast majority of the shia muslim population), but it's more than livable, especially for a person who is unskilled. An unskilled worker has a far greater chance of making it at home when relatives and family members are supportive and they know the language, than in a developed country like Australia.
I used to go to a barber shop in Tehran about 12 years ago. Then he disappeared for 2 months. After he came back he was so thin and also very tan. It turned out that he had a friend that encouraged him to cycle across Turkey and into the Europe, and ask for asylum there. The plan was to carry banners that made them look like political dissidents. He was not an athlete by any measure, and had was running an OK business in his shop in Mirdamad. But somehow he fell for the plan.
They cycled all the way to Turkey's border with Bulgaria, but it was so physically taxing for him that he decided to come back. At least he was brave enough to admit he fucked up.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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I used to go to a barber shop in Tehran about 12 years ago. Then he disappeared for 2 months. After he came back he was so thin and also very tan. It turned out that he had a friend that encouraged him to cycle across Turkey and into the Europe, and ask for asylum there. The plan was to carry banners that made them look like political dissidents. He was not an athlete by any measure, and had was running an OK business in his shop in Mirdamad. But somehow he fell for the plan.
They cycled all the way to Turkey's border with Bulgaria, but it was so physically taxing for him that he decided to come back. At least he was brave enough to admit he fucked up.
My cousin was considering a similar plan but thank god his wife got pregnant and they stayed :sergio:

Mirdamad... Missing it so bad :cry:
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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He should thank her forever.
I thought you are in Iran right now.
Been in the US for three years now :)

My friend's dorm was in Mirdamad, I love that area. Tehran is the weirdest place in the world, you love it so much and hate it so much at the same time. I'm not even from Tehran but missing it as much as my hometown (esfahan).
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Been in the US for three years now :)

My friend's dorm was in Mirdamad, I love that area. Tehran is the weirdest place in the world, you love it so much and hate it so much at the same time. I'm not even from Tehran but missing it as much as my hometown (esfahan).
Really? same here. I'm from Esfahan but lived in Tehran for a few years before moving to US.
It is indeed very weird. I visited Tehran after 8 years last winter. I was in a cab in Mirdamad when I saw 2 transsexual ladies chasing a man in the street who apparently catcalled them. It was a bizarre scene :lol:
 

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