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swag said:
Yeah, he is a retard in his single-mindedness. I mean, if a woman doesn't want to be with a family or man, I can't blame her. For a lot of women, that's a terrible life decision. Many women have been self-destructive in following what society expectations are when they really should be without men or children for happier lives for themselves.

But the guy touches on a sliver of truth that will get easily lost -- in that a lot of the income disparity politics between men and women is influenced by life or career decisions. And it's not just about wanting to go home to a family instead of "staying late to write a report". A perfect example is something like veterinarians. The field is now hugely dominated by women attending vet schools and the like, but the financial prospects for vets have never been poorer. It's a professional field requiring advanced education, but women are flocking to it just as the relative pay prospects have declined.

And that has nothing to do with the fact that society wants to pay women vets less than men vets. It's that women are flocking to a declining profession in terms of salary growth.
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swag said:
Having a high tech profession myself, especially one where I've managed multi-million-dollar budgets primarily driven by staff salaries, I have generally not seen a disparity between men and women in the same role. Where there is reason for gripe, however, is that you could make more arguments that there weren't enough women in advanced positions ... i.e., not the "same pay for same work" argument but the "not getting the same opportunities" argument.

But there are counterintuitive examples too. I know for a fact that for graduates out of a chemical engineering Bachelor's degree program, for example, women tend to earn more than men as new graduates. That's data cherry-picking, of course, but it refutes the idea that the forces are purely systemic across the board.

I'm sure there are legacy abuses in not-equal-pay for equal work out there, and the question is how badly widely spread this is. But what gets lost in this discussion is that there are clear counter-examples and clear forces that have nothing to do with those factors -- such as choices of professions -- that bias the figures that often get the most cited. This stuff becomes legendary fuel for indignation, and often it can be misplaced -- which, honestly, does any cause a disservice when you can call some of the data into factual question.
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Hustini said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-FIVE-TIMES-condemn-officials-let-stay.html

Our immigration system is out of control.
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Btw, I have some personal info about some of the backstory on this event earlier this month that isn't being reported in the papers.

Sent away five times by immigration aside, there are some insider working theories that this could be a retribution hit by a drug cartel. Now we humans love tidy motives even when there aren't any, but there's something that doesn't add up about a guy who didn't need to create more attention to himself and yet shoots and kills a random woman on a pier with a gun stolen from a federal agent.

Some good friends of mine are neighbors of the murdered woman's family. They attended her brother's wedding last year where the woman was a bridesmaid.

Apparently the murdered woman's boyfriend and another American male friend of his were in Cabo, Mexico not long ago and got into an altercation with a couple of dudes at a club. Heading back to their hotel, the two dudes jumped them again. Except her boyfriend and his buddy were badass martial artist types and f'ed up the Mexican boys but good. One pulled a knife on the boyfriend and ended up losing most of his nose in the process. The Mexican police got involved and released the Americans from lockup because they bought their version of the story.

So a working theory now is that the multiple immigration violator was hired on behalf of the drug cartel to do a hit (or hits, if not other family members) as retribution for what went down in Cabo.
 
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swag said:
Btw, I have some personal info about some of the backstory on this event earlier this month that isn't being reported in the papers.

Sent away five times by immigration aside, there are some insider working theories that this could be a retribution hit by a drug cartel. Now we humans love tidy motives even when there aren't any, but there's something that doesn't add up about a guy who didn't need to create more attention to himself and yet shoots and kills a random woman on a pier with a gun stolen from a federal agent.

Some good friends of mine are neighbors of the murdered woman's family. They attended her brother's wedding last year where the woman was a bridesmaid.

Apparently the murdered woman's boyfriend and another American male friend of his were in Cabo, Mexico not long ago and got into an altercation with a couple of dudes at a club. Heading back to their hotel, the two dudes jumped them again. Except her boyfriend and his buddy were badass martial artist types and f'ed up the Mexican boys but good. One pulled a knife on the boyfriend and ended up losing most of his nose in the process. The Mexican police got involved and released the Americans from lockup because they bought their version of the story.

So a working theory now is that the multiple immigration violator was hired on behalf of the drug cartel to do a hit (or hits, if not other family members) as retribution for what went down in Cabo.
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If legit, def an interesting addition to a sad story that unfortunately can't be changed.

So, again, it further indicates the issue we have with immigration. One, it is blatantly obvious that some of these people coming across the border are in fact drug dealers, rapists, etc. Whether we care to admit it or not is irrelevant. The problem persists. I wonder how many anchor babies are being born daily to keep these illegals here, further more, el Chapo has been reported to have many kids born in the US for anchor babies as well as his top henchmen. So, according to our immigration they can stay if they have a child born here. Now we have criminals legally allowed to stay because of their anchor babies. All the more reason to secure the border.

So sad that a criminal like this was given access in our country for a guy getting his ass kicked by an American. That is, if your story is valid but who knows.
 
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