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[Seven]

Agree. I don't have a law degree but one of my best friends is a lawyer and a girl I dated for two years is a lawyer. I'd say you don't really need a law degree to know acting in self -defense isn't always wrong.

Now, like I said I'd like to reiterate that the only time I would kill a man is if I am clear my life is in danger or they have a weapon then I don't think I really have a choice but to defend myself. Now, a guy running with my wallet I will chase him unless I know he has a gun or knife and I'm unarmed. Earlier when I said he wouldn't stop hitting until he stopped moving that was more meant until he was knocked out.

Okay. This I can agree with. And I think a lot of people could.

 

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[Hust]

Yes, but in the example I gave you chased the guy. Self defence ends when you are no longer in danger. Even if it may start out as self defence, it does not necessarily stay that way.

U funny.

Ironically, there have been issues where criminals actually try and sue people they tried to steal from because they got their asses kicked in return, you do see that from time to time.

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Okay. This I can agree with. And I think a lot of people could.

Which is all I've been trying to say.

 

[Ocelot]

Solution: we need to find a better solution than a wallet. I mean, it's 21st century after all.

Bitcoin is a good example.

I don't think anyone would break into my house to get my HDD.

Of course not, who wants imaginary internet money.

 

[Seven]

Ironically, there have been issues where criminals actually try and sue people they tried to steal from because they got their asses kicked in return, you do see that from time to time.

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Which is all I've been trying to say.

Yeah, but you didn't say that initially. At least not that clearly.

You do have criminals who sue people because, after a robbery, they have become disabled. Sometimes I even believe the criminal has a point. Even so it is very difficult to sell that idea to a judge/jury.

 

[Hust]

Solution: we need to find a better solution than a wallet. I mean, it's 21st century after all.

Bitcoin is a good example.

I don't think anyone would break into my house to get my HDD.

Well, most things now you can use your phone to pay.

-starbucks app
-some groceries have apps
-gas stations you can scan your phone I think


Now, if you lose your phone you are screwed but at least its bio metrically locked or has a code.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Well, most things now you can use your phone to pay.

-starbucks app
-some groceries have apps
-gas stations you can scan your phone I think


Now, if you lose your phone you are screwed but at least its bio metrically locked or has a code.

Well, good enough, we'd decrease pickpocketing too then.

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Of course not, who wants imaginary internet money.

Yeah, but having a paper in your pocket which is worth basically nothing, does make sense.

 

[Hust]

Yeah, but you didn't say that initially. At least not that clearly.

You do have criminals who sue people because, after a robbery, they have become disabled. Sometimes I even believe the criminal has a point. Even so it is very difficult to sell that idea to a judge/jury.

Believe it or not, some criminals actually win. There was something in DC recently, but I don't remember the details. Something along the lines of a guy was being attacked by pit bulls and a neighbor heard the guy screaming and the neighbor got his gun and killed the dogs saving the guys life, mind you, guns are illegal in DC so the dog owner went after the guy in court that killed his dogs because he had a gun which was illegal.

The good guy saved a guys life and now finds himself in a court battle with the dog owner.

 

[Ocelot]

Yeah, but having a paper in your pocket which is worth basically nothing, does make sense.

I wasn't completely serious

But for the sake of argument: "Real" money has about as much physical value than Bitcoins, true. The difference is, money derives its value essentially from people believing it has value, at least since the gold backing was abolished. That's what I don't see with Bitcoins

 

[Hust]

Well, good enough, we'd decrease pickpocketing too then.

When in public I usually keep all my shit in my front pockets or my chest pocket of my jacket.

Telling ya, in DC shit gets ghetto quickly so you gotta be one step ahead of the perps.

 

[Seven]

Believe it or not, some criminals actually win. There was something in DC recently, but I don't remember the details. Something along the lines of a guy was being attacked by pit bulls and a neighbor heard the guy screaming and the neighbor got his gun and killed the dogs saving the guys life, mind you, guns are illegal in DC so the dog owner went after the guy in court that killed his dogs because he had a gun which was illegal.

The good guy saved a guys life and now finds himself in a court battle with the dog owner.

Yeah, you have cases like that. But, you know, there is something to say for the dog owner. Perhaps the guy who was being attacked shouldn't have been there in the first place. And was the only solution really to kill the dogs?

Although I do suspect that in the first case it would make more sense to sue the guy who was being attacked, rather than the guy who rescued him.

 

[Raz]

Arguing with Hustini I love this forum.

 

[Hust]

I wasn't completely serious

But for the sake of argument: "Real" money has about as much physical value than Bitcoins, true. The difference is, money derives its value essentially from people believing it has value, at least since the gold backing was abolished. That's what I don't see with Bitcoins

Bring back the gold standard for 500, Alex.

 

[Seven]

What's wrong in arguing with Hustini?

 

[Hust]

Yeah, you have cases like that. But, you know, there is something to say for the dog owner. Perhaps the guy who was being attacked shouldn't have been there in the first place. And was the only solution really to kill the dogs?

Although I do suspect that in the first case it would make more sense to sue the guy who was being attacked, rather than the guy who rescued him.

The dogs were unchained or secured. The guy that was attacked was walking on the sidewalk and doing nothing illegal.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Like I said, a jury will see what history that guy would have versus the history I don't have and see I was completely sane without a violent history. If my life is threatened and there is a risk I won't see my family again I'll take my chances.

You mentioned shooting someone who was fleeing. Don't do that. You will go to prison, even in America

 

[Hust]

What's wrong in arguing with Hustini?

Raz has never liked me.

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You mentioned shooting someone who was fleeing. Don't do that. You will go to prison, even in America

Kneecap shot isn't manslaughter unless he bled to death. Seven was mentioning if I gun the guy down in the back.

 

[Dostoevsky]

I wasn't completely serious

But for the sake of argument: "Real" money has about as much physical value than Bitcoins, true. The difference is, money derives its value essentially from people believing it has value, at least since the gold backing was abolished. That's what I don't see with Bitcoins

Yeah, I still believe people don't know that nowadays money is backed by a thin air and bacterias.

Anxiety has influenced this world way too much imo.

 

[Seven]

The dogs were unchained or secured. The guy that was attacked was walking on the sidewalk and doing nothing illegal.

Then I think the dog owner has little chance of being reimbursed. At least in Belgium that would be the case. Especially because here pet owners carry pretty much all of the risk that is associated with animals.

 

[Hust]

Then I think the dog owner has little chance of being reimbursed. At least in Belgium that would be the case. Especially because here pet owners carry pretty much all of the risk that is associated with animals.

Yeah, I'm not sure if the case is still in court or what the outcome of it was.


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I wasn't even close. Here is what happened:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/23/man-who-shot-dogs-biting-boy-could-face-charges/

 

[Raz]

HAHAHAHA, fucking reading Hustini, it's like listening to John McClane crossed with John Rambo.

Man in my european eyes you sound like a madman that should be locked up in a mental institution for the safety of others.