New Owner - And now all about religion, just as originally planned (24 Viewers)

[Seven]

this could all be false promises byrone your not giving me any guarentees

They're not even good promises. He could tell us about the features now. There's no reason not to. He wants to lure new customers. You do that by telling people what you have to offer. Unless there is nothing to offer at all. Then you say there is something really special in the hope that people will buy that and pay for it. Byrone's promises are that maybe there are some good new features the world does not know about yet and that maybe the forum won't be down all the time.

 

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[Seven]

Juventuz Forums Statistics
Threads: 24,811, Posts: 1,947,058, Members: 11,587
Welcome to our newest member, tohamy

FAIL!

That's great, but I checked the members list. You know, the thingy on top.

 

[Byrone]

If Byrone had nothing to hide, he would tell us how much money it all costs. The way I see it he did not agree with Marty to not tell us about the monthly costs of the forum. The only reason he does not tell us, is that it's less than he makes it out to be. He wants to earn something here.

I actually realized how how much this forum means to you.

this could all be false promises byrone your not giving me any guarentees

Fair enough,wait until i announce all the finer details next week monday. Ok?

 

[Geof]

Weird.

If you really saved the forum from oblivion, thank you.

However, I have a couple of questions/remarks here.

1) If the forum/Marty was really in bad debt, why didn't Marty contact us (as in all/most of us) to ask someone to take care of it, like when Martin sold the forum?

2) How come you knew about the financial problems?

3) Why wouldn't you contact people before buying the forum, so that we could sort out how to make this work with a bunch op people instead of dropping the bomb on us?

4) Will paying members get voting rights? So far the admin could do as he wanted because he was the sole funding source. If we pay, this changes and we have to be given a right to decide on decisions regarding the forum.

4)a. In doing so, we need access to the financial information so that we can decide what would be an appropriate price and what when the forum would be viable without payment again.
​

5) You talk about "new features". we had #IRC > no success; Torrents > No success; Arcade > no success; VbPlaza > No success; Points > limited success; rep > limited success, mostly used on Hanayuko and JBF.
===> As Seven said: people come to a forum to post.

6) I don't have Paypal. How would I pay you?

7) Why not think about alternative ways of funding?

7)a. Some people would be willing to pay much more than 20$, as a donation, why not use that rather than obligatory payment

7)b. Have you thought of approaching the club for help? They might be interested in hosting the site or give some funding if we make a credible demand. After all, this site has brought many people to buy merchandising, tv subscriptions or go to the stadium, let alone raise the profile of the club internationally.

7)c. Did you approach other football forums, Juventus or not. juventus1897, VS, Xtratime. They have their own financial issues and might want to co-host to reduce costs... hell we could even league up with english fora of other Italian clubs.

7)d. Why not incorporating the forum as a non-profit to provide for more transparency and making donations (which could even be tax-deductible).

7)e. As a member, I don't see a single banner. Why not put some more banners? We'd happily click on them if it generates cash. Hell, we'd even buy things from the advertisers if it's remotely useful (match tickets, merchandising, sportswear, dvd's, games whatever).​

8) You're a nice guy, but you're far away in South-Africa. How do we know you wont run away with the money? How do we know a Nigerian scammer didn't hack your account?

9) Why would you, in your sane mind pay a fee to buy over the forum and take over Marty's debts? If the forum dies in a month because everyone leaves, you're screwed. That doesn't sound very logical and doesn't inspire me any confidence as to your managing skills.

10) Will you ban those annoying moving flags?

EDIT:

11) If you're really the owner, why aren't you an admin yet? Why are you a regular poster?

 

[da_ledgeaun]

For now,im gonna pray that the negotiations with the advertising company works out before 17th of August...Good Luck

 

[Enron]

Sorry guys I actually have rubles not rupees. I've got 35 sitting in front of me, plus a few lira. How many more of each do I need to make up 20 dollars?

 

[Byrone]

They're not even good promises. He could tell us about the features now. There's no reason not to. He wants to lure new customers. You do that by telling people what you have to offer. Unless there is nothing to offer at all. Then you say there is something really special in the hope that people will buy that and pay for it. Byrone's promises are that maybe there are some good new features the world does not know about yet and that maybe the forum won't be down all the time.

Stop being a knod,Andries.As i said wait until i unveail everything on monday & the you can continue to bring me down.

 

[Seven]

I actually realized how how much this forum means to you.

I'm not the one who went in debt for it .

Weird.

If you really saved the forum from oblivion, thank you.

However, I have a couple of questions/remarks here.

1) If the forum/Marty was really in bad debt, why didn't Marty contact us (as in all/most of us) to ask someone to take care of it, like when Martin sold the forum?

2) How come you knew about the financial problems?

3) Why wouldn't you contact people before buying the forum, so that we could sort out how to make this work with a bunch op people instead of dropping the bomb on us?

4) Will paying members get voting rights? So far the admin could do as he wanted because he was the sole funding source. If we pay, this changes and we have to be given a right to decide on decisions regarding the forum.

4)a. In doing so, we need access to the financial information so that we can decide what would be an appropriate price and what when the forum would be viable without payment again.
​

5) You talk about "new features". we had #IRC > no success; Torrents > No success; Arcade > no success; VbPlaza > No success; Points > limited success; rep > limited success, mostly used on Hanayuko and JBF.
===> As Seven said: people come to a forum to post.

6) I don't have Paypal. How would I pay you?

7) Why not think about alternative ways of funding?

7)a. Some people would be willing to pay much more than 20$, as a donation, why not use that rather than obligatory payment

7)b. Have you thought of approaching the club for help? They might be interested in hosting the site or give some funding if we make a credible demand. After all, this site has brought many people to buy merchandising, tv subscriptions or go to the stadium, let alone raise the profile of the club internationally.

7)c. Did you approach other football forums, Juventus or not. juventus1897, VS, Xtratime. They have their own financial issues and might want to co-host to reduce costs... hell we could even league up with english fora of other Italian clubs.

7)d. Why not incorporating the forum as a non-profit to provide for more transparency and making donations (which could even be tax-deductible).

7)e. As a member, I don't see a single banner. Why not put some more banners? We'd happily click on them if it generates cash. Hell, we'd even buy things from the advertisers if it's remotely useful (match tickets, merchandising, sportswear, dvd's, games whatever).​

8) You're a nice guy, but you're far away in South-Africa. How do we know you wont run away with the money? How do we know a Nigerian scammer didn't hack your account?

9) Why would you, in your sane mind pay a fee to buy over the forum and take over Marty's debts? If the forum dies in a month because everyone leaves, you're screwed. That doesn't sound very logical and doesn't inspire me any confidence as to your managing skills.

10) Will you ban those annoying moving flags?

The only question he can answer is number 10.

 

[Seven]

Stop being a knod,Andries.As i said wait until i unveail everything on monday & the you can continue to bring me down.

Reveal everything now. Surely you have a game plan. Surely you know what the new features will be. Not that I want the new features, but still. Or is there something else going on? Do you need to find some weird ideas before monday? Could it be that you have nothing at all, could it be that you're hiding stuff from us? Could it be that it's a scam?

I think it could.

 

[Enron]

This forum means a lot for me. But I think I trust Andries more than any of you. More than even Burke or Andy. It pains me to say this but I will follow Andries into the dark on the day of darkness.

 

[Seven]

This forum means a lot for me. But I think I trust Andries more than any of you. More than even Burke or Andy. It pains me to say this but I will follow Andries into the dark on the day of darkness.

Exactly.

 

[Byrone]

@ Geof - Ill give you all the answer's soon,i have to run to a meeting now.

@ Andries - Wait your turn.

 

[Seven]

@ Geof - Ill give you all the answer's soon,i have to run to a meeting now.

@ Andries - Wait your turn.

Now you're running away. I don't think anyone still trusts you. About 5 members are going to end up giving you 20 dollars. Ow and:

MARTY DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS

I doubt the forum was ever even sold to Byrone. It's a scam.

 

[Salvo]

byrone my prediction is that the so called "loyal members" pay then all the rest leave and the forum just becomes a boring shithole, then what?

 

[Seven]

byrone my prediction is that the so called "loyal members" pay then all the rest leave and the forum just becomes a boring shithole, then what?

We wait until the 17th and see what happens. I bet Byrone doesn't even own the forum.

 

[JCK]

byrone my prediction is that the so called "loyal members" pay then all the rest leave and the forum just becomes a boring shithole, then what?

Which loyal members are willing to pay. I still haven't seen any real numbers.

Do I count as a loyal member? And if so, am I willng to pay, no one has made these statistics.

 

[Seven]

Could you start a poll?

 

[Enron]

Now you're running away. I don't think anyone still trusts you. About 5 members are going to end up giving you 20 dollars. Ow and:

MARTY DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS

I doubt the forum was ever even sold to Byrone. It's a scam.

No way Byrone is joking about this. This is NOT a subject one would joke about.

If it was I would immediately cancel my subscription and practice my craft a youporn.com/forum.

 

[Azzurri7]

Could you start a poll?

What poll?

 

[Salvo]

thats my point though, there is no one besides ahmed and a few that will pay, adn for what? a service that is ment to be free?