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Jun 6, 2015
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that's quite a big pile of poo on all traditions. honestly, i don't like it at all.
I don't see it that way at all. Our traditions/history are not defined by a badge, they are defined by special moments and happenings. Some people might affiliate the old badges to these moments which is fine but those moments aren't going anywhere even though the badge as we know it will become history instead of being part of the present time.
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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People, who called it ugly, have no taste. What they should be criticizing is the ugly face of commercialization, cause it has nothing to do with football. There's a reason they call it a logo and not a badge. Now, they can sell expensive clothes to all kind of people.
lol what an ignorant statement, you seriously believe all people "with taste" should consider the logo beautiful?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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In that way it's a pretty clever marketing move and a lot of people all around the world are already talking about this.
It is. And if we are to make our own shirts it would be nothing short of revolutionary for a football (though I still don't really see that happening). I guess if you want to compete with the other three superclubs this is something you have to do. And while I don't like such blatant commercial moves, Juventus have always been about doing what needs to be done to win.

lol what an ignorant statement, you seriously believe all people "with taste" should consider the logo beautiful?
It's not the ugliest logo and it's quite modern. It's a bit like Nike's, though the simplicity and class of the swoosh is really hard to match, especially if you want to be recognisable. De gustibus et coloribus though...
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
25,185
lol what an ignorant statement, you seriously believe all people "with taste" should consider the logo beautiful?
Yes, cause we all know that the only alternative to ugly is beautiful. And I'm no ignorant. A look at the clothes and shoe thread and you'll realize most people here have no clue about what's good looking, from modern fashional perspective.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,326
Yes, cause we all know that the only alternative to ugly is beautiful. And I'm no ignorant. A look at the clothes and shoe thread and you'll realize most people here have no clue about what's good looking, from modern fashional perspective.

Very true. Though I must admit that it's only because my girlfriend dragged me through shop after shop that I now know what I like and is fashionable.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,326
It only looks stupid as a football logo, but I don't think they care, cause fans will buy shirts anyway.
Yes. And they're trying to appeal to people who wouldn't buy casual wear from a football club, because it always looks horrible. This logo is much more suited for such things.

I still won't buy clothes with a football logo on them though, even if it looks better.
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
25,185
It is. And if we are to make our own shirts it would be nothing short of revolutionary for a football (though I still don't really see that happening). I guess if you want to compete with the other three superclubs this is something you have to do. And while I don't like such blatant commercial moves, Juventus have always been about doing what needs to be done to win.



It's not the ugliest logo and it's quite modern. It's a bit like Nike's, though the simplicity and class of the swoosh is really hard to match, especially if you want to be recognisable. De gustibus et coloribus though...
Even brands like Adidas used to be highly fashionable brands, but they ruined it by selling it from every kind of shop they could.
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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Goal.com gets an opinion from a New York designer and illustrator called Daniel Nyari:


We love the new Juventus logo and here's why it's so important


The Italian champions are seeking to do for the letter "J" what McDonalds did for the letter "M" in a bold redesign which has firmly spilt fan opinion


We know the story. A football club rebrands and uproar ensues. Modern designs are criticised for being too elementary - almost effortless - to being out of touch with the club’s history and fans.


We are witnessing this phenomenon again with the Juventus rebrand; not only because it’s one of the most-revered historical clubs on the planet but also because of the boldness of the redesign.

But this is the most important visual rebrand in football history. With it, Juventus have cemented their place ahead of the pack when most of their competitors don’t even realise they’re in a race.



In this continuously-changing global landscape, football clubs have to fight in order to distinguish themselves. For the first time in history however clubs have to really think about what this means on a mass scale. Inevitably this requires treading the line between appealing to a local fan base and the expanding external global market. Traditionalists are apprehensive about new TV deals and new demographics emerging far away from their local cities but globalisation is also a means for a football club to stay afloat and keep its history alive.

The most effective branding always blends essential signifiers. When we think of Juventus on a general level, the signifiers that immediately come to mind are their black-and-white stripes and the word image “Juventus”. We often think of language and images as separate but they are inextricably tied up into our general cognitive mapping.

“The creation of the alphabet was a way of gobbling up images of the mythic world by their organisation into rows of lines of one dimensional text - writing invented as means of analysing and breaking mythical images apart into pieces,” philosopher Vilem Flusser wrote.

The first letter of a name – the initial - holds enough signifying power that it becomes something along the lines of a symbolic signifier for the thing the name represents. A single symbol can signify many different things at the same time. By singling out the letter “J”, Juventus created a floating signifier that acts as a container for the club’s history and all the visual motifs that come to mind when we are prompted to think about Juventus.


One can argue the previous badge had too many elements competing against each other and were superfluous in communicating a cohesive brand message. From a design point of view it’s logical to condense them. As designers we have to take into account the contemporary media landscape that is inundated with marketing rhetoric and images that simply overload the senses.

By just logging onto the internet we come face to face with an apparatus that traps millions of symbols - from adverts to websites and logos - and stores them in one place on a daily basis. By condensing the Juve brand into an essential single logomark, Juventus are future-proofing against signifier overload.


A major part of the Juventus brand roll out is in the flexibility of the logomark and its typeface. The accompanying typeface mirrors the design logic of the “J”. It will undoubtedly feature as the primary typeface on future kits as well as in any marketing campaigns such as #2beJUVENTUS.

A brand has to work on every medium from print to digital - from clothing (large) to mobile devices (small). A logo has to be legible on every single platform. The need for a brand’s message to be self-evident becomes more necessary as brands also end up inhabiting more spaces. It’s no surprise that the Juventus press release this week repeatedly emphasised the words “black and white” and “more”. The “more” here refers to the space that is now open to a global brand like Juventus, whose visual message is no longer confined to football alone.

The possibilities for lateral merchandising are endless - especially as football has begun to spill over into non-sports endeavours such as fashion and street wear. We will be seeing a lot of Juve’s new badge on non-football specific products.

The Juventus rebrand is a bold step forward and presents us a glimpse into what a truly global football club can look like. By recording its history into a primary signifier it has carved out a space for itself in the marketing world where “black and white stripes” and the letter “J” are specific to the Juventus brand.

Juventus have firmly planted a flag on yet-to-be colonised terrain. They have transformed the 10th letter of the alphabet into a visual icon that they will hope to associate with their brand just as Google is associated with the “g” or the McDonalds “M”.

History will reveal not only how successful this risky endeavour was but just how far behind other competing clubs were.



Daniel Nyari is a New York-based illustrator/ designer/ art director. You can visit his website and see examples of his work at www.danielnyari.com

Article:

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/683/...o-and-heres-why-its-so-important?ICID=HP_BN_4
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,326
Yes. They did some changes, but because it went to shit.
True. Tbh the only things I like from them now are what you would consider retro. Nothing new they make is stylish imo.

I agree with the article above btw: we have the best name as a football club. It's very strong and catchy. In that sense I can see why the new logo would emphasise that.
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
Yes, cause we all know that the only alternative to ugly is beautiful. And I'm no ignorant. A look at the clothes and shoe thread and you'll realize most people here have no clue about what's good looking, from modern fashional perspective.
and people who don't find modern fashional perspective beautiful automatically have "no taste"? I still think you're ignorant

and beautiful not the only alternative to ugly, but I phrased it that way because you apparently like categorical statements
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,930
We're going to be a top 2 club within the next decade, to be honest. Maybe I'm biased, but we're one of the best managed and most progressive clubs around.
:xfinger: Its not being biased, this logo change is bringing some realism to it. We got work to do but you've hit the nail on head with the above. I for one am amongst the critic for how we deal with things on the field but our work off the field has been exemplary. Also we are trendsetters, if that isn't something to be proud of I don't know what is but its a matter of time before other clubs follow.

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look at his own logo :lol:


:D I wonder if his the guy we employed to do ours...::hustini2::

On second thought his twitter account says he works for FCBayernUS
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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:xfinger: Its not being biased, this logo change is bringing some realism to it. We got work to do but you've hit the nail on head with the above. I for one am amongst the critic for how we deal with things on the field but our work off the field has been exemplary. Also we are trendsetters, if that isn't something to be proud of I don't know what is but its a matter of time before other clubs follow.
Agreed. I like how despite being handicapped by being part of a backward football association in a country with a struggling economy, we find innovative ways to stay as an elite team in Europe.
 

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