New Juve coach: The Last Chapter (239 Viewers)

[littlePrince]

im so tried to follow news about new coach.
i dont read news anymore untill official news.
but i hope next coach be Pep not this shit sarri.

 

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[Bisco]

Bye.

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Allegri was burnt out, and so were the players.
I love Max, but it was the right decision to part with him.

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Actually if you look at social media in general, a lot of people are satisfied with Sarri.

May I suggest you check out Romeo agresti's Instagram post with sarri.. people are pretty pissed off

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[Post Ironic]

This article gives some hope for whom may think we are getting Pep

https://www.juvefc.com/waiting-for-godot/

 

[Nedved96]

On my Twitter most people are angry.

Actually if you look at social media in general, a lot of people are satisfied with Sarri.

A lot of this depends on the kind of people you follow online.

The majority of people here seem happy:

https://www.blackwhitereadallover.c...lsea-juventus-2019-serie-a-epl-manager-rumors

 

[Post Ironic]

What if Sarri wins the same trophies Allegri usually does, and play more entertaining football.

How is that not a positive change?

There is no net loss of silverware and Juve fans don’t need to gauge their eyes out because of our abysmal football.

Same trophies, same results. Equals 3 domestic doubles + 2 CL finals in his first 3 years here.

Not Domestic double + CL quarterfinals. THat's a step back. Because we're not looking to match Allegri's results from his final years here, which you claim were big failures and "disgraceful" (PS. the most disgraceful thing is spoilt entitled turd fans who take trophies for granted). And we played entertaining and attractive football from January through May in all of the first 3 years under Max. So for Sarri to equal Max requires domestic dominance in both competitions, and getting to the CL final.

You aren't the sole arbiter of what is "entertaining football." You don't seem aware of that. Sure, we played ugly ugly football this year, and for large parts of last season, but a lot of us Juventus fans actually quite enjoyed the football we played in his first three years, and found it very entertaining.

 

[Nedved96]

Not Domestic double + CL quarterfinals. THat's a step back.

A domestic double + CL quarter final would statistically be better than the following seasons:

2018/19
2015/16

Equal to this season:

2017/18

And inferior to this season:

2014/15
2016/17

In other words, a domestic double + CL quarter final would be an normal season by Allegri's standards at Juve, not a step back.

 

[campionesidd]

Same trophies, same results. Equals 3 domestic doubles + 2 CL finals in his first 3 years here.

Not Domestic double + CL quarterfinals. THat's a step back. Because we're not looking to match Allegri's results from his final years here, which you claim were big failures and "disgraceful" (PS. the most disgraceful thing is spoilt entitled turd fans who take trophies for granted). And we played entertaining and attractive football from January through May in all of the first 3 years under Max. So for Sarri to equal Max requires domestic dominance in both competitions, and getting to the CL final.

You aren't the sole arbiter of what is "entertaining football." You don't seem aware of that. Sure, we played ugly ugly football this year, and for large parts of last season, but a lot of us Juventus fans actually quite enjoyed the football we played in his first three years, and found it very entertaining.

The comparison between the two is pointless.
Allegri is the better coach by far, but his play style had deteriorated significantly in 2 years. He had to go imo.
Btw, my standards for judging Sarri will be pretty high.
Scudetto is minimum, CL semis at least with attractive football to boot.

 

[Post Ironic]

A domestic double + CL quarter final would statistically be better than the following seasons:

2018/19
2015/16

Equal to this season:

2017/18

And inferior to this season:

2014/15
2016/17

In other words, a domestic double + CL quarter final would be an normal season by Allegri's standards at Juve, not a step back.

Normal?

You're such a troll.

Again. We played in 2 CL finals in Allegri's first 3 seasons. He's been let go because he failed to succeed in Europe the last 2 years.

So success with a new coach is competing for CL. Being up there competing to the end. Getting to finals. Anything less and it's a clear and obvious step back. Even more so if we get knocked out by inferior teams, which happened once in Allegri's 5 years here in CL. And once in Coppa Italia.

 

[Nedved96]

Normal?

Yes, normal

If Sarri's season is better than two of Allegri's seasons, equal to one, and worse to two, that makes it normal by definition. It is quite literally the median.

I'm not a troll, you are just too dumb to understand basic logic.

 

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A domestic double + CL quarter final would statistically be better than the following seasons:

2018/19
2015/16

Equal to this season:

2017/18

And inferior to this season:

2014/15
2016/17

In other words, a domestic double + CL quarter final would be an normal season by Allegri's standards at Juve, not a step back.

This is dumb. Expectation and what counts for success or failure changes with each season because the team changes and so does the opposition. And trying to make an average of it

People here should certainly give Sarri a chance (the we're doomed reaction to his appointment will fade) but as of now, based off their past results, Sarri isn't in the same tier of coaches that Maxx is and he has a lot to prove to be considered there.

 

[zizinho]

This is dumb. Expectation and what counts for success or failure changes with each season because the team changes and so does the opposition. And trying to make an average of it

People here should certainly give Sarri a chance (the we're doomed reaction to his appointment will fade) but as of now, based off their past results, Sarri isn't in the same tier of coaches that Maxx is and he has a lot to prove to be considered there.

Stats bruh

 

[Post Ironic]

Yes, normal

If Sarri's season is better than two of Allegri's seasons, equal to one, and worse to two, that makes it normal by definition. It is quite literally the median.

I'm not a troll, you are just too dumb to understand basic logic.

Please. No one cares about what the average/normal season is. This is beyond stupid. Averaging CL QFs plus a domestic double is great if it's only the average because you actually go further in CL and compete for the title some years.

Improving on Allegri means doing better than his best seasons here, not matching his average season overall. If we had 5 years of domestic double and CL quarterfinal exits under Sarri, that would be an abject failure. It would mean we never once came close to competing for the CL title.

Sarri needs to match or better Allegri's best seasons for this to be a worthwhile move. Otherwise we haven't gone anywhere, and yes, in fact did take steps back from our peak.

But keep being disingenuous.

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This is dumb. Expectation and what counts for success or failure changes with each season because the team changes and so does the opposition. And trying to make an average of it

People here should certainly give Sarri a chance (the we're doomed reaction to his appointment will fade) but as of now, based off their past results, Sarri isn't in the same tier of coaches that Maxx is and he has a lot to prove to be considered there.

Who would ever say Sarri is as good in CL as Max if we got knocked out in each year in the QFs for the next 3+ years under him, because it was Allegri's "average"? Ridiculous notion.

 

[Nedved96]

This is dumb. Expectation and what counts for success or failure changes with each season because the team changes and so does the opposition. And trying to make an average of it

If that’s the case, how do we know for sure that a quarterfinal exit for Sarri is considered a failure?

 

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If that’s the case, how do we know for sure that a quarterfinal exit for Sarri is considered a failure?

Who says we know that?

 

[kappa96]

If that’s the case, how do we know for sure that a quarterfinal exit for Sarri is considered a failure?

In my opinion.
A cl quarterfinal exit is considered a failure based on the opponent we play in that said quarterfinal and the score at the end of both legs.
For example exiting to city after a close fought 2 legs - not a failure - 5-0 aggregate for city is a failure.
Exiting to second tier clubs always a failure.
Winning the cl is always going to be hard . To much variables like luck of the draw, form of the moment, injuries, suspension, referee errors etc., come into play, regardless of who coaches us at the time.

 

[JCK]

Sarri came very close to winning the league with Napoli with a less talented team, with little depth and while playing much more attractive football than anyone in the league.

If he didn't look like an ugly bin man I don't think you guys would be half as mad.

Still hoping we can land someone better but if not i won't act like a bitch about it for other fans to laugh at us.

This argument over and over

 

[Mike-e-y]

Any Sarri appointment would clearly be a plan B because our main target (Pep) has either turned us down or can’t get himself out of his contract.

If we do end up with Sarri it’s not the end of the world, he’s a very good coach even though he lacks class. People talk about 0 titles, but the guy got into football management at 40 directly from working in banking. He started at the lowest levels and has worked his way up to top tier football in 15 seasons - that’s pretty unprecedented. He’s not going to win a CL with Sansovino...

We can only really judge him when he got to Napoli - he was a big success, he took that team way above their potential. A so called elite manager in Ancelotti has taken Napoli backwards, also failed to get them out of the group stage of the CL and got schooled by an Arsenal team that Sarri dismantled in the final.

He then went to Chelsea and took over from another so called elite in Conte, he’s done a good job their considering it’s his first experience abroad. 3rd in the PL below teams that are far superior a cup final defeat and a EL title remaining unbeaten in the competition.

He’ll do well here, he’ll make use of our attacking talent and he will win titles. He’s not my first pick but if he is our manager it won’t be the worst choice.

 

[JCK]

I believe that a third 8lace finish in the table with a R16 exit in the CL or semi final EL is a good start for Sarri because we would have won on the aesthetics.

 

[kao_ray]

Until I see Sarri's face on our official site I'm with @Mark and @Tanu_Mz #TeamPep

 

[CalcioJuventus]

Allegri's team was way stronger than Sarri's to be fair. Everyone counts trophies but Juve could have won trophies with no coach at all some years. I love Allegri but Sarri's offense might be a new way forward for us if he is in fact the coach. Look at what he did with Insigne- Mertens- Callejon and imagine what he could do with Douglas Costa- Ronaldo - Dybala. With their pace and skill we will be a sight to see. Not the stagnant waste of resources we saw so often this season. We would have certainly created more against Ajax with a better offensive plan.