New Juve coach: The Last Chapter (240 Viewers)

[GIGIthebest]

I simply read what you write, I don't pick anything. Sadly you write bs.

So where exactly is the BS? I stated allegri is a good coach. He did take us far in europe, but always made the same mistakes which led to our elimination. Against Madrid he was too cautious in finals, and quarter finals. First season was almost perfect and I don’t blame him for anything there. He was too cautious against Ajax again this year. And against Bayern he’s not really to blame since evra should’ve cleared the ball, but mandzukic sub was questionable. I might’ve misworded my claims, as I think he was good in Europe, but especially more recently, wasn’t playing positive football, which led to our eventual elimination.

I’m not saying sarri will do better, but people are writing him off too quick. Allegri at Milan never made it to semi finals, so it’s not like he was a proven European coach. Di Matteo won Chelsea the UCL with no coaching experience. Zidane as well. The main point is we need to have an identity, and the past two seasons we didn’t really. Only time will tell if allegri overachieved with this squad. If you don’t agree with my opinion it doesn’t make it BS. But don’t write off a coach before he’s even had a game here, just because you don’t like him. Half this forum probably didn’t want allegri, and now no one would even think twice about Conte leaving in 2014, Cuz allegri was the way better coach for us

 

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[zizinho]

I don’t think Ancelotti failed at Bayern, but he lost the locker room in his second season pretty quickly if I recall, and was sacked. Sarri team had no depth let’s not forget, when they lost to shakhtar, and clearly wanted to target one trophy. Now like I said it’s still a bad result, no excuses. But his only other UCL run was a R16 exit to the eventual champs. Conte was eliminated by galatasary yet everyone on this forum thought he was gonna come back and win us the UCL.

Conte had no depth either and Galata was a better team than Shakhtar. He was crucified for failing that season, despite going far further in EL than Sarri.

But still, none of that changes the fact that Ancelotti is a CL specialist, while sarri is a league one. Both of their best results and failures came in opposite competitions

 

[Xperd]

I just love how certain people are that we won't win trophies with Sarri.

Like I've said, our squad is two levels above anyone else. That is not up for debate. Unless I see serious improvement from other teams, the status quo will remain the same. Even if we hire Mihajlovic as coach.

 

[Signora Omicidi]

So if Sarri wins the Scudetto and goes out in the CL quarter-finals the Sarri doubters are proven right? Seems it's pretty easy to be proven right as a doubter

Nope. Because doubters believe we will lose the title to better coaches like Conte and Ancheloti and finish 7th.

Doubters aside. My expectations are domestic double and going at least through QF while improving our game style.

That's for his first season.

 

[.zero]

Do you really expect a coach win against this Juve with Napoli and Empoli?

Then You have highest expections ever. and Napoli and Empoli should fire every coaches that don't win serie a foe them.

But then again if he comes to Juve and wins only domestic league and cup then what's the point? If anything his bar should be set higher. But no, the fact is that for Juve only conquering Italy matters while staying relevant on the continent.

That doesn't give him a free pass as criteria for success

 

[lgorTudor]

This turn of events makes me feel physically sick in my tummy. Not sure I want to keep following

 

[GIGIthebest]

Conte had no depth either and Galata was a better team than Shakhtar. He was crucified for failing that season, despite going far further in EL than Sarri.

But still, none of that changes the fact that Ancelotti is a CL specialist, while sarri is a league one. Both of their best results and failures came in opposite competitions

Oh, I Agree Ancelotti is great in Europe, I just don’t agree sarri is bad. He’s never had a great squad to work with, and Napoli never wanted Europe as a priority anyways. Chelsea wanted the Europa league and he got it. Sure Conte didn’t have depth, but he did have the better starting 11. Top 2 midfield in the world, best defence, and an attack of Tevez and Llorente is better than anything sarri had to work with. Also don’t really agree galatasary was that much better than shakhtar, they’re in the same bracket for me.

 

[il brutto]

Nope. Because doubters believe we will lose the title to better coaches like Conte and Ancheloti and finish 7th.

Doubters aside. My expectations are domestic double and going at least through QF while improving our game style.

That's for his first season.

I doubt anyone actually thinks that.

I'm simply pointing out that you can't say that you were proven right on doubting Allegri and then say the same results for Sarri would be good enough.

 

[Ronn]

It'll be fun watching Matudi playing SarriBall, or even Pep's tiki taka.

 

[Snobist]

But then again if he comes to Juve and wins only domestic league and cup then what's the point? If anything his bar should be set higher. But no, the fact is that for Juve only conquering Italy matters while staying relevant on the continent.

That doesn't give him a free pass as criteria for success

If he does that and he does not deffend against relegating sides and scores 5-6 past them I see it as progress.

 

[vodka]

So if Sarri wins the Scudetto and goes out in the CL quarter-finals the Sarri doubters are proven right? Seems it's pretty easy to be proven right as a doubter

Then that would mean fundamental lack of something somewhere else

 

[.zero]

This turn of events makes me feel physically sick in my tummy. Not sure I want to keep following

Cyanide capsule or go out in style like David Carradine

 

[il brutto]

It'll be fun watching Matudi playing SarriBall, or even Pep's tiki taka.

He has played in some pretty dominant PSG teams that played possession based football.

 

[Snobist]

It'll be fun watching Matudi playing SarriBall, or even Pep's tiki taka.

Dont worry at best Matuidi will be 6th choice.

 

[Post Ironic]

Whether we get Sarri or not, my opinion on him won’t change.

He’s a coach who, up till now, has been great and has shown he’s willing to still learn. Forget his looks and personality, he plays positive attacking football, his players love him, and he would’ve been more successful if Chelsea players weren’t moody little bitches who never listen to their coach and kick him out the minute they feel like it.

He pushed Napoli close to the title twice, against a practically unbeatable Juve side in the league. That is by no means a failure with the depth we have compared to them, as well as our starting line up being way better than there’s. Let’s not forget we beat Allegris Milan, who had Ibra and Thiago Silva to name a few, yet no one criticizes allegri for losing that league title.

For people saying Conte, he hasn’t proven shit in Europe, couldn’t even win the Europa league with a Juve side that was practically the same one that allegri took to the final. He’s stubborn and has a big ego. Great motivator, but he Coaches inter now so fuck him.

Before anyone tells me sarris flaws, I think rotation won’t be a problem since now he finally has a proper line up to rotate. The only worry is him needing to adapt to opponents, and his obvious subs not being so obvious. If he comes in, Higuain hopefully doesn’t come back (he didn’t even use him in final, I think it’s an easy rumor to make) and Jorginho doesn’t need to come either (not what we’re looking for in the midfield)

“His players love him, and he would have been more successful if Chelsea players weren’t moody little bitches who never listen to their coach and kick him out the minute they feel like it.”

@Ronn @il brutto @Cerval

No contradiction at all in the above sentence.

 

[Stevie]

Sarri came very close to winning the league with Napoli with a less talented team, with little depth and while playing much more attractive football than anyone in the league.

If he didn't look like an ugly bin man I don't think you guys would be half as mad.

Still hoping we can land someone better but if not i won't act like a bitch about it for other fans to laugh at us.

 

[.zero]

If he does that and he does not deffend against relegating sides and scores 5-6 past them I see it as progress.

 

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[Snobist]

I get the CHL obsession but lets not forget only one team wins CHL and about 8 strong teams try to win it. It’s not like the league where at best 2 teams are fighting for it and you have about 4-5 games to fix your mistakes. 45 mins of bad games in CHL and you’re out.

 

[Ronn]

If he does that and he does not deffend against relegating sides and scores 5-6 past them I see it as progress.

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I get the CHL obsession but lets not forget only one team wins CHL and about 8 strong teams try to win it. It’s not like the league where at best 2 teams are fighting for it and you have about 4-5 games to fix your mistakes. 45 mins of bad games in CHL and you’re out.

Then what was the point of Allegri's dismissal?