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Neturei Karta (Aramaic: נטורי קרתא; "Guardians of the City") is a group of Haredi (Ultra-Orthodox) Jews who reject all forms of Zionism and actively oppose the existence of the State of Israel. They are concentrated in Jerusalem, with branches in and around New York City and in Beit Shemesh near Jerusalem. Estimates of their membership range from 5,000 to less than 1,000. Other small groups associated with Neturei Karta but not actual members of the group, can be found in London, Vienna (Austria), Antwerp (Belgium), New York City, and other parts of New York state.
Mainstream Orthodox Jewish communities, including some who oppose Zionism, have denounced Neturei Karta's activities; according to The Guardian, "[e]ven among Charedi, or ultra-Orthodox circles, the Neturei Karta are regarded as a wild fringe". [1] Neturei Karta claims that the mass media deliberately downplays their viewpoint and makes them out to be few in number. Their protests are usually attended by just a few dozen people.
Neturei Karta are sometimes mistakenly confused with Satmar Hasidim, due to their similar mode of dress, and some similarities in their anti-Zionist ideology.
Ideology
Adherents of Neturei Karta stress those portions in rabbinic literature which state that the Jewish people were first sent into exile from the land of Israel for their sins. Additionally, they maintain the view that any form of forceful recapture of Israel is a violation of divine will (Babylonian Talmud, tractate Ketuboth 111). They believe that the true Commonwealth of Israel can only be reestablished with the coming of the Messiah.
Neturei Karta teaches that the exile of the Jews can end only with the arrival of the Messiah, and that human attempts return to the Land of Israel are sinful. In Neturei Karta's view, Zionism is a presumptuous affront against God. Such beliefs have lead to accusations that the group perpetuates a "ghetto mentality" in which Jews have little to no agency in determining their fate in the world.
In recent years, after the death of Rabbi Amram Blau, radicals, under the guidance of Moshe Hirsch, departed from the more passive members of the Neturei Karta has aligned itself with Yasser Arafat, the Palestine Liberation Organization and later, the Palestinian Authority. Other Jewish groups have criticized this alignment, describing it as condoning or even abetting Palestinian terrorism. These people who operate under the Neturei Karta name have been excommunicated by the real Neturei Karta. In fact, they will not be counted in a quorum of ten men required to say certain prayers in a synagogue. Hirsch is considered to be a "wicked" person by the Charedi Jewish community. Despite their extreme views on Zionism, the Neturei Karta and Satmar would never align themselves with Israel's enemies.
In 2002, during Israel's "Operation Defensive Shield", the Israeli military captured numerous documents [2] from the headquarters of Arafat which demonstrated that Rabbi Moshe Hirsch was on Arafat's payroll and received payments totaling $55,000. Rabbi Hirsch's son, however, denied that any payment was accepted.
In 2000 and in 2006, Hirsch's Neturei Karta visited Iran. During the 2006 visit, they praised Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and expressed solidarity with the Iranian position of anti-Zionism and Ahmadinejad's calls for the political destruction of the Israeli state. [5] Observers have pointed out a key difference between Iran's position and that held by some members of Neutrei Karta; the latter use the term 'dismantling' to refer to a peaceful removal of the state of Israel, as opposed to Iran, which has reserved the option of a violent removal as a last-resort. It can be argued that all anti-Zionist parties would prefer that political dismantling be a peaceful process, provided that a just accounting and reconciliation process take place afterwards.
, Neturei Karta leader Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss issued a statement criticizing Jewish attacks on Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Weiss wrote that Ahmadinejad's statements were not "indicative of anti-Jewish sentiments", but rather, "a yearning for a better, more peaceful world", and "re-stating the beliefs and statements of Ayatollah Khomeini, who always emphasized and practiced the respect and protection of Jews and Judaism." [11]
In March 2006, several Neturei Karta members visited Iran where they met with Iranian statesmen, including the Vice-President, and praised Ahmadinejad for calling for the State of Israel to be "wiped off the map." The spokesmen commented that they shared Ahmadinejad's aspiration for "a disintegration of the Israeli government". When asked by reporters, the group also mentioned that they were not bothered by Ahmadinejad's Holocaust denial. In an interview with Iranian television reporters, Rabbi Weiss remarked, "The Zionists use the Holocaust issue to their benefit. We, Jews who perished in the Holocaust, do not use it to advance our interests. We stress that there are hundreds of thousands Jews around the world who identify with our opposition to the Zionist ideology and who feel that Zionism is not Jewish, but a political agenda...What we want is not a withdrawal to the '67 borders, but to everything included in it, so the country can go back to the Palestinians and we could live with them..." [12][13]
Neturei Karta claims it has helped improve the situation of Jews still living in Iran, and was integral to the efforts to help free thirteen Iranian Jews who were arrested in 1999, convicted of spying for Israel in May 2000, and finally released in 2001 and 2003. [14] A Neturei Karta delegation did visit Iran in June 2000; however the suggestion that it was key to the prisoners' release several years later cannot be verified, particularly in light of the fact that several delegation members, including Rabbi Weiss, declared on Iranian television that Israel had "tricked" the men into spying, giving credence to the government's accusation while the trial was still ongoing. [15] (Four of the thirteen defendants continually maintained their innocence, and several of the others' "confessions" were suspected to have been coerced. Four later recanted their confessions during trial.
Full reading can be found at : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_against_zionism
Anyone who says this conflict is about religion, is talking out of their ass. This has nothing to do with it. This clearly shows there are jewish people out there who are against the occupation of Palestine, for what ever reason it may be.
Neturei Karta (Aramaic: נטורי קרתא; "Guardians of the City") is a group of Haredi (Ultra-Orthodox) Jews who reject all forms of Zionism and actively oppose the existence of the State of Israel. They are concentrated in Jerusalem, with branches in and around New York City and in Beit Shemesh near Jerusalem. Estimates of their membership range from 5,000 to less than 1,000. Other small groups associated with Neturei Karta but not actual members of the group, can be found in London, Vienna (Austria), Antwerp (Belgium), New York City, and other parts of New York state.
Mainstream Orthodox Jewish communities, including some who oppose Zionism, have denounced Neturei Karta's activities; according to The Guardian, "[e]ven among Charedi, or ultra-Orthodox circles, the Neturei Karta are regarded as a wild fringe". [1] Neturei Karta claims that the mass media deliberately downplays their viewpoint and makes them out to be few in number. Their protests are usually attended by just a few dozen people.
Neturei Karta are sometimes mistakenly confused with Satmar Hasidim, due to their similar mode of dress, and some similarities in their anti-Zionist ideology.
Ideology
Adherents of Neturei Karta stress those portions in rabbinic literature which state that the Jewish people were first sent into exile from the land of Israel for their sins. Additionally, they maintain the view that any form of forceful recapture of Israel is a violation of divine will (Babylonian Talmud, tractate Ketuboth 111). They believe that the true Commonwealth of Israel can only be reestablished with the coming of the Messiah.
Neturei Karta teaches that the exile of the Jews can end only with the arrival of the Messiah, and that human attempts return to the Land of Israel are sinful. In Neturei Karta's view, Zionism is a presumptuous affront against God. Such beliefs have lead to accusations that the group perpetuates a "ghetto mentality" in which Jews have little to no agency in determining their fate in the world.
In recent years, after the death of Rabbi Amram Blau, radicals, under the guidance of Moshe Hirsch, departed from the more passive members of the Neturei Karta has aligned itself with Yasser Arafat, the Palestine Liberation Organization and later, the Palestinian Authority. Other Jewish groups have criticized this alignment, describing it as condoning or even abetting Palestinian terrorism. These people who operate under the Neturei Karta name have been excommunicated by the real Neturei Karta. In fact, they will not be counted in a quorum of ten men required to say certain prayers in a synagogue. Hirsch is considered to be a "wicked" person by the Charedi Jewish community. Despite their extreme views on Zionism, the Neturei Karta and Satmar would never align themselves with Israel's enemies.
In 2002, during Israel's "Operation Defensive Shield", the Israeli military captured numerous documents [2] from the headquarters of Arafat which demonstrated that Rabbi Moshe Hirsch was on Arafat's payroll and received payments totaling $55,000. Rabbi Hirsch's son, however, denied that any payment was accepted.
In 2000 and in 2006, Hirsch's Neturei Karta visited Iran. During the 2006 visit, they praised Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and expressed solidarity with the Iranian position of anti-Zionism and Ahmadinejad's calls for the political destruction of the Israeli state. [5] Observers have pointed out a key difference between Iran's position and that held by some members of Neutrei Karta; the latter use the term 'dismantling' to refer to a peaceful removal of the state of Israel, as opposed to Iran, which has reserved the option of a violent removal as a last-resort. It can be argued that all anti-Zionist parties would prefer that political dismantling be a peaceful process, provided that a just accounting and reconciliation process take place afterwards.
, Neturei Karta leader Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss issued a statement criticizing Jewish attacks on Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Weiss wrote that Ahmadinejad's statements were not "indicative of anti-Jewish sentiments", but rather, "a yearning for a better, more peaceful world", and "re-stating the beliefs and statements of Ayatollah Khomeini, who always emphasized and practiced the respect and protection of Jews and Judaism." [11]
In March 2006, several Neturei Karta members visited Iran where they met with Iranian statesmen, including the Vice-President, and praised Ahmadinejad for calling for the State of Israel to be "wiped off the map." The spokesmen commented that they shared Ahmadinejad's aspiration for "a disintegration of the Israeli government". When asked by reporters, the group also mentioned that they were not bothered by Ahmadinejad's Holocaust denial. In an interview with Iranian television reporters, Rabbi Weiss remarked, "The Zionists use the Holocaust issue to their benefit. We, Jews who perished in the Holocaust, do not use it to advance our interests. We stress that there are hundreds of thousands Jews around the world who identify with our opposition to the Zionist ideology and who feel that Zionism is not Jewish, but a political agenda...What we want is not a withdrawal to the '67 borders, but to everything included in it, so the country can go back to the Palestinians and we could live with them..." [12][13]
Neturei Karta claims it has helped improve the situation of Jews still living in Iran, and was integral to the efforts to help free thirteen Iranian Jews who were arrested in 1999, convicted of spying for Israel in May 2000, and finally released in 2001 and 2003. [14] A Neturei Karta delegation did visit Iran in June 2000; however the suggestion that it was key to the prisoners' release several years later cannot be verified, particularly in light of the fact that several delegation members, including Rabbi Weiss, declared on Iranian television that Israel had "tricked" the men into spying, giving credence to the government's accusation while the trial was still ongoing. [15] (Four of the thirteen defendants continually maintained their innocence, and several of the others' "confessions" were suspected to have been coerced. Four later recanted their confessions during trial.
Full reading can be found at : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_against_zionism
Anyone who says this conflict is about religion, is talking out of their ass. This has nothing to do with it. This clearly shows there are jewish people out there who are against the occupation of Palestine, for what ever reason it may be.
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. There is no winning with hateful people like you. I am not a Nazi nor am I in the kkk. Heck, that would mean everything I stand against. I do not deny the holocaust, though it is grossly over-exaggerated. Thats all you guys ever cry about- the holocaust and people want to destroy Israel. As a matter of fact you guys are worse than the Nazis and hitler. You murder innocent people, take over land that is not yours-a lot of people don't know about the concentration camps that you guys had for the Palestenians. The truth will come out. Palestine, now called Israel was built in 1948 on the murders of innocent people. Why would I want the destruction of Israel. As far as I am concerned that land is Palestine. The EUROPEAN jews just started coming over there. And I know what your going to post-See how dangerous these people are, they want to destroy Israel. Cry all you want. The truth will be discovered. The problem is people like you don't get- I am anti-nazi-zionists-terrorits-murderers. My My-I guess that means anti-Israel. Sorry
. What I am not that you are is anti-peace, ethnic cleansing, truth, freedom, god,judaism,christianity, islam( and every other religion that has good moral values) . Oh yeah, and I do live in the United States where freedom of speech is written on an old and forgotten document that made America what it was- we no longer have that. I am an American of the values that were layed down by thomas payne, george washington and Martin Luther King-not Bush and Conde. I hope you like the avatar cuz Sharon the "kosher killer" is exactly like the buddy he's kissing.