Myanmar Cyclone (2 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

But why is one useless RIP better than another? It does nothing, right? And the only thing we really care about is things that affect us, so all the Western tourists in Thailand and stuff when the tsunami occurred. And yes, you can't differentiate between the tourists and the locals in good faith, especially because there were so many tourists and locals who helped each other and all that. But otherwise would there be such an uproar? If it wasn't our favorite holiday destination? What about Bali, lots of Western (well, Australian, but they qualify as one of us) tourists there too.

Because, Martin, at least the people who are obtaining RIPs are receiving some attention. I don't know about you, but I'd rather get the word out about people who are suffering instead of some moron that took their life already in front of an audience.

I agree that this psychology of sympathy is pretty interesting, because people don't know how to react. Heck, when I see these things I don't know what I should be doing myself. If someone shoots themselves isn't that sad? I mean the circumstances that must have led them to do this can't be happy can they? They must either have gone through a rough time or had mental health issues, neither of which are particularly cheerful. So what is wrong with sympathizing with that? Isn't that maybe something we relate to more easily than a natural disaster we could do nothing about?

I'm sorry, but someone who commits suicide at a football match should not be given any respect. Can you imagine this scenario? A police woman gets up one day, suits up in her uniform, travels to the stadia, and blows her head off. Why doesn't she just end it there when she wakes up? Should we feel bad for everyone that goes to public places and kills themselves? What if someone had mental issues and went to other places and killed others before killing themselves? Should we feel pitty for them?

Fuck no, Martin. You're just avoiding the issue here, plus contradicting yourself. You say we shouldn't mourn people for different issues but then sympathize who blow people's brains out. I mean, this should be a clear cut issue.

So who wrote it, where was he from? If he was European I'm fairly confident he was comparing you with Europe, and maybe a couple of other countries like Japan etc that we feel have a similar standard of living. In other words "our world". Not with Myanmar, in fact people who would argue the US is less civilized than Myanmar probably don't exist, because they don't know what Myanmar is.

I don't give a crap where he's from. It doesn't matter. His name could be Borat and I wouldn't judge him on where the hell he's from. This isn't about that. Rather, it's about the author using generality to combat one group of people, specifically Americans. The author never gave any sort of specifications to his comparisons between wherever the hell he was talking about and the USA. The author never really specified which sort of people are more civilized than us; instead, his arguments just consist of everything that went horribly wrong in the response to Katrina. This is hardly a way to convince people that Americans are less civilized than anybody else, those from Myanmar to London.

And talk about "civil" - over here in the US, we actually have our meteorological data publicly available. Let me ask you, Martin. How many powerful hurricanes or tornadoes does Europe experience per year compared to the USA? Sure, you lot have powerful low pressure windstorms that smash in from the North Sea, but you do not have Category 4 hurricanes smashing into your coastlines on a monthly basis in the peak season. Absolutely not. The highest you've ever encountered is something comparable to a Cat 2 hurricane, and that happened a couple times I believe.

So therefore, even if the author was from Europe, he has no right to compare the civility seen after Katrina in the South to anything seen in Europe because the latter has never had to deal with a storm THAT POWERFUL. Until a Cat 4 storm slams into one of Europe's low lying cities, he has no argument.

I don't mean to sound like I'm taking this personal, and you know that I am a spoken critic of my own nation. But this criticism is fucking off the richter scale, which reeks of illogic and meteorological misunderstanding. If you want to talk about the engineering that goes into protecting cities, such as seen in Holland, that's certainly another matter.

 

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[Zé Tahir]

There is fear that another cyclone is forming outside Burma, Joint Typhoon Warning Center report.

 

[Snoop]

I feel for Chinese people thou, it's tragic to die in an earthquake, which you die slowly in pain, sometimes it takes many days, under the buildings without food or water, without a room to move yourself, just waiting there your time, that's just sad..

 

[Salvo]

I feel for Chinese people thou, it's tragic to die in an earthquake, which you die slowly in pain, sometimes it takes many days, under the buildings without food or water, without a room to move yourself, just waiting there your time, that's just sad..

its all horrible what is happening with this world?

 

[sallyinzaghi]

Nothing much we can do, I just donate in hopes that it'll make a difference.

 

[swag]

I feel for Chinese people thou, it's tragic to die in an earthquake, which you die slowly in pain, sometimes it takes many days, under the buildings without food or water, without a room to move yourself, just waiting there your time, that's just sad..

True. But perhaps we need Andy to open a Schezuan Earthquake thread first.

 

[Bjerknes]

True. But perhaps we need Andy to open a Schezuan Earthquake thread first.

All you need to do is fetch me some Schezuan chicken, and I'll do anything you want, baby.