'Murica! (163 Viewers)

[DAiDEViL]

I've seen my fair share of hospitals & doctors the past few years (multiple MRI's, other scans, minor surgery, etc) and I couldn't even tell you what I've had to pay myself. As in: I don't remember, because it was peanuts. For which I'm grateful, obviously.

My Mom has multiple sclerosis and her meds are like 25.000€ a year, for which she pays like 10€ every 3 months. Healthcare alone would be reason enough for me to never wanna live in the US.

 

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[Bjerknes]

My Mom has multiple sclerosis and her meds are like 25.000€ a year, for which she pays like 10€ every 3 months. Healthcare alone would be reason enough for me to never wanna live in the US.

I had a friend who took a spill while hiking with us in Peru. She really got busted up. When we got back to the hotel, they called a medical crew and they were there within the hour from the closest town, doctor and all. Gave her meds and fixed her up. The bill was not even 100USD. If that happened in a trail in the US, it would have been 90,000 USD or some shit.

So much of the Murican dream is just a total scam. Muricans just don't know because they've never been anywhere before and don't know anything.

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i was on holiday in slovenia (+italy, croatia) with my family, just trying to catch up with the news. did trump really deploy the national guard to dc after big balls was beaten by two 15-year-olds?

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/...r-known-as-big-balls-assaulted-in-dc-00494990
https://www.newsweek.com/photos-show-poi-big-balls-attack-doge-worker-dc-police-2111587

fucking hell

He sure did. Now different agencies are walking around DC harassing citizens. According to local news, businesses are already feeling a hit as people don't want to be out and about in a police state.

I remember just a few years ago when MAGA complained about lockdowns and police states due to Covid. Now we have a bigger one and they don't care. Just total scumbags.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

How do people even pay these stupid bills?

Simple, they don't.

 

[Seven]

I've seen my fair share of hospitals & doctors the past few years (multiple MRI's, other scans, minor surgery, etc) and I couldn't even tell you what I've had to pay myself. As in: I don't remember, because it was peanuts. For which I'm grateful, obviously.

But there's also a downside: a lot of money wasted & lots of people profiteering from the system. Cuts will (have to) be made in the near future.

No. No cuts.

We have by far the cheapest system possible. Once you privatize or limit, that's when this shit gets expensive. Healthcare has to be universal and virtually free in order to be affordable for a society.

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[Enron]

How do people even pay these stupid bills?

I had to go to the ER back in 2019, had a $9000 bill mostly for just being there. Haven’t been to a doctor since.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

No. No cuts.

We have by far the cheapest system possible. Once you privatize or limit, that's when this shit gets expensive. Healthcare has to be universal and virtually free in order to be affordable for a society.

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Not to mention, there's obscene amounts of waste and profiteering in a privatized system anyway.

 

[s4tch]

so nice that hegseth ordered to stop fighting russian attacks back in february, right? (edit: sorry, it was at the beginning of march: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2er34w0jgdo )



either this is the dumbest administration ever in any country, or they are just traitors. or both. no 4th option.

 

[Ronn]

How do people even pay these stupid bills?

For the crazy ones like that story often going to media is the only option. NPR has a monthly(!) segment discussing just one bill at a time so if you’re lucky in winning that lottery you probably won’t pay anything. But if insurance denies the coverage hospitals usually waive a good part of the bill. Unfortunately the remainder is still too much.

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crazy story. hope you've been successful.

I have 2 kids now but not because of that long shot test or any other treatment.

 

[X Æ A-12]

How do people even pay these stupid bills?

Only expensive Murica hospital bill I ever received was in college. Had an ER trip, got stiches, came out to $7,000. This was probably back in 2016 or so.I was still on my parent's insurance which brought the $7,000 down to about $2,000.

I submitted a claim of financial hardship, that I had no $ because I was a college student, and hospital collections gave me the option to pay it out installments of $25 a month for forever. I counter offered to pay them $75 up front and they accepted. So I only paid $75 out of the $7,000 bill but yea the system here is beyond rapacious

 

[Bjerknes]

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[Ronn]

Only expensive Murica hospital bill I ever received was in college. Had an ER trip, got stiches, came out to $7,000. This was probably back in 2016 or so.I was still on my parent's insurance which brought the $7,000 down to about $2,000.

I submitted a claim of financial hardship, that I had no $ because I was a college student, and hospital collections gave me the option to pay it out installments of $25 a month for forever. I counter offered to pay them $75 up front and they accepted. So I only paid $75 out of the $7,000 bill but yea the system here is beyond rapacious

Beppe is that you?

 

[Ronn]

 

[s4tch]

he's also a project 2025 author

loyalty >>>> everything else. once again, trump's murica is just like orbán's hungary but bigger

 

[Seven]

Not to mention, there's obscene amounts of waste and profiteering in a privatized system anyway.

Exactly. Privatized systems are more expensive every single time and there's arguably more profiteering. It just leads to insurance companies getting richer.

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[Seven]

https://out.reddit.com/t3_1mp2qnv?a...-debt-treasury-department-trump-b2806657.html

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5447001-trump-tax-cuts-cbo-inequality/

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250807-us-to-rewrite-its-past-national-climate-reports

https://www.salon.com/2025/08/12/tr...involvement-in-pedophile-ring-philly-da-says/

Trump has stumbled the US into record debt, while making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Climate change no longer exists, even if the world is on fire. Labor figures are altered when they don't suit Trump's vision and DC is taken over by troops to avoid people asking questions about his involvement in a pedophile ring.

@Hust
@MAXCAP

This is what you wanted? A pedophile living in la la land?

Is this who you are as person? Are these your ideals?

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[Dostoevsky]

I doubt there will be any president to make the US debt smaller. At this point it can only increase. Sooner or later they won't be able to pay the interest rate lol.

 

[Siamak]

greatest country in the world, right?

even in an authoritarian shithole like hungary it would have been covered by universal healthcare. we do have helicopters and competent doctors too, even though the general state of the infrastructure obviously lacks behind italy, france or germany. but this is unimaginable, even here

and this is on everyone, not only trump and his dumb cult. universal healthcare should be the number two priority for every politician, second only to the federal debt. and they are kicking rocks instead and approve trump's idiotic big baffling bill.

Doesn't insurance cover part of it?
I recall Trump promising to improve healthcare system in one of his speeches before the election.

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My Mom has multiple sclerosis and her meds are like 25.000€ a year, for which she pays like 10€ every 3 months. Healthcare alone would be reason enough for me to never wanna live in the US.

Last year I went through a complete physical and pay nothing, all costs included blood tests and radiology were in the insurance side. Of course, I pay a monthly amount for insurance, which is insignificant compared to the costs of treatment.

 

[Bjerknes]

https://out.reddit.com/t3_1mp2qnv?app_name=android&token=AQAARgOeaNvxB70Y8DUCaL-matnZ_liwjShln9dw1SbOgBS2JJ4_&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/national-debt-treasury-department-trump-b2806657.html

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5447001-trump-tax-cuts-cbo-inequality/

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250807-us-to-rewrite-its-past-national-climate-reports

https://www.salon.com/2025/08/12/tr...involvement-in-pedophile-ring-philly-da-says/

Trump has stumbled the US into record debt, while making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Climate change no longer exists, even if the world is on fire. Labor figures are altered when they don't suit Trump's vision and DC is taken over by troops to avoid people asking questions about his involvement in a pedophile ring.

@Hust
@MAXCAP

This is what you wanted? A pedophile living in la la land?

Is this who you are as person? Are these your ideals?

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Doesn't get much more dystopic than that.

It's always the same story with "conservatives" on debt. Once their guy is in, they couldn't care less.

As long as they target gays and blacks they're good with anything.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I doubt there will be any president to make the US debt smaller. At this point it can only increase. Sooner or later they won't be able to pay the interest rate lol.

We had a budget surplus as recently as 2001, it's not impossible.

 

[Dostoevsky]

We had a budget surplus as recently as 2001, it's not impossible.

That's 24 years ago. And I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. The US debt has kept on increasing since forever and I doubt any president will change that. Nor I think it's possible.