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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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i sincerely hope that somehow rfk jr won't be confirmed by the senate, or if he will, he'll be kept on a short leash. this is a lunatic and nobody, not even the millions who voted for him and trump deserve the consequences of his probable actions

but but but he's shredded for a 70+ guy therefore he's healthy therefore he's got the skills and expertise to run a complete department lol. let's give hulk hogan and stallone an office quick

 

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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Apparently much of the country was tired of the message, while there was more serious issues.
yeah there was, like the president saying it was just a flu (before he got infected lol; after that he said it was an attack), and the virus is very fragile, let's inject disinfectants to get rid of it

then a few million americans died, and now you'll likely have a secretary who'd get rid of vaccines and fluoride in the water. kids might die because dumbasses elected a dumbass who appointed a dumbass. let's hope the senate has some common sense
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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yeah there was, like the president saying it was just a flu (before he got infected lol; after that he said it was an attack), and the virus is very fragile, let's inject disinfectants to get rid of it

then a few million americans died, and now you'll likely have a secretary who'd get rid of vaccines and fluoride in the water. kids might die because dumbasses elected a dumbass who appointed a dumbass. let's hope the senate has some common sense
Is that really a bad thing, though?

I'm still hoping this entire administration exists simply to kill off poor, dumb people. Right now we are tracking rather well.

It's the most corrupt admin in history already and they haven't even taken office yet.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,887
yeah there was, like the president saying it was just a flu (before he got infected lol; after that he said it was an attack), and the virus is very fragile, let's inject disinfectants to get rid of it

then a few million americans died, and now you'll likely have a secretary who'd get rid of vaccines and fluoride in the water. kids might die because dumbasses elected a dumbass who appointed a dumbass. let's hope the senate has some common sense
Many countries do not fluoridate their water and they are fine, correct me if I'm wrong.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
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Many countries do not fluoridate their water and they are fine, correct me if I'm wrong.
as far as i know it has a proven positive effect, it reduces cavities with young people, without any drawbacks

people would be fine without it, especially dentists. a completely unnecessary measure for the sake of it

jfk jr's anti vaccine policy though, that's a real danger

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So according to this no one would’ve lost a life if it was a democratic president?
quote anyone saying anything remotely similar
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,887
as far as i know it has a proven positive effect, it reduces cavities with young people, without any drawbacks

people would be fine without it, especially dentists. a completely unnecessary measure for the sake of it
I'm reading Hungray doesn't fluoridate their water, same for my country. I don't think there's any extra cavity epidemic here at least, because there's fluoride in toothpaste.

I've read some dentists say that fluoride in water isn't really effective compared to topical application (toothpaste). But I'm sure the Tuz community will tell me that fluoride in water has been researched thousands of times and proven to be safe and effective :D

Maybe so, I'm not putting my head on a block for it. But if it does happen to be unnecessary, I'd rather as little unnecessary additives to my water as possible.

Hey but Tuz please don't kill me if there's a Harvard study saying otherwise.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Is that really a bad thing, though?

I'm still hoping this entire administration exists simply to kill off poor, dumb people. Right now we are tracking rather well.

It's the most corrupt admin in history already and they haven't even taken office yet.
Yes.

Americans deserve what they have coming.

But banning vaccines will directly result in many unnecessary deaths, particularly of children. Furthermore many will become the victim of lifelong disabilities. It doesn't matter who voted what. A 5 year old getting polio and being paralyzed from the waist down is by definition a bad thing. This 5 year old had nothing to do with any of it.

Fortunately I don't believe it will come to that. It would require pretty much all doctors in the entirety of the USA to "forget" all the medical knowledge they accumulated over the years. I'm sure there are many scumbags who will sidestep everything to make money. But I don't see how an an entire profession would let this happen.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
34,442
I'm reading Hungray doesn't fluoridate their water, same for my country. I don't think there's any extra cavity epidemic here at least, because there's fluoride in toothpaste.

I've read some dentists say that fluoride in water isn't really effective compared to topical application (toothpaste). But I'm sure the Tuz community will tell me that fluoride in water has been researched thousands of times and proven to be safe and effective :D

Maybe so, I'm not putting my head on a block for it. But if it does happen to be unnecessary, I'd rather as little unnecessary additives to my water as possible.

Hey but Tuz please don't kill me if there's a Harvard study saying otherwise.
that's not even the main point. it will cost some thousands of teeth probably

getting rid of vaccines though, now let's hear your take on that
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
75,685
I'm reading Hungray doesn't fluoridate their water, same for my country. I don't think there's any extra cavity epidemic here at least, because there's fluoride in toothpaste.

I've read some dentists say that fluoride in water isn't really effective compared to topical application (toothpaste). But I'm sure the Tuz community will tell me that fluoride in water has been researched thousands of times and proven to be safe and effective :D

Maybe so, I'm not putting my head on a block for it. But if it does happen to be unnecessary, I'd rather as little unnecessary additives to my water as possible.

Hey but Tuz please don't kill me if there's a Harvard study saying otherwise.
Calgary is a pretty good recent case study. Took fluoride away in 2011. Now looking to reintroduce but it proving much more expensive that before.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,887
Calgary is a pretty good recent case study. Took fluoride away in 2011. Now looking to reintroduce but it proving much more expensive that before.
:tup: Interesting

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/calgary-...-drinking-water-pushed-back-to-2025-1.6845098

James A. Dickinson, a professor of medicine at the University of Calgary, said the rates of dental treatments under anesthesia have risen steadily in Calgary since the loss of fluoridation.

“We are concerned about avoidable and potentially life-threatening disease, pain, suffering, misery and expense experienced especially by very young children and their families due to dental decay,” Dickinson said in an emailed statement.

“In just eight years after fluoridation ended in 2011, the need for intravenous antibiotic therapy by children to avoid death by infection rose 700 per cent at the Alberta Children’s Hospital.”

According to Dickinson, a recent University of Alberta study shows that for children under five years old, the rate of dental treatments under anesthesia doubled from 22 per 100,000 in 2010-11 to 45 per 100,000 in 2018-19.

For kids aged six to 11, the rates rose from 14 per 100,000 to 19 per 100,000.

The rates stayed the same over that time period in Edmonton, where the water is fluoridated.

“Since fluoridation ceased, the cavities (holes) in teeth are more numerous and larger. These might require filling or extractions,” Dickinson said.

“They are occurring earlier in a child’s life so that treatment can require general anesthesia.”
 

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