'Murica! (317 Viewers)

[AFL_ITALIA]

It cant happen. Too much lobbying, those 3rd parties dont stand a chance. They dont have necessary funding which elections in US are all about. Whoever secures most donors, will win and anyone with intention to tackle billionair issues and wealth concentration in a hands of a few, loses 100%. Gets marginalized in the media that are owned, funded by these guys. The level of debates in your politics with every election are getting worse. Imo

It's not about winning though, it's about giving strength and credibility to certain positions through sustained voting records. Sort of a "yeah I'm a regular voter and would've voted for you if x and y."

 

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https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-age-harris-ramble-rcna168979

These are Trump's words:

"She destroyed the city of San Francisco, it’s — and I own a big building there — it’s no — I shouldn’t talk about this but that’s OK I don’t give a damn because this is what I’m doing. I should say it’s the finest city in the world — sell and get the hell out of there, right? But I can’t do that. I don’t care, you know? I lost billions of dollars, billions of dollars. You know, somebody said, ‘What do you think you lost?’ I said, ‘Probably two, three billion. That’s OK, I don’t care.’ They say, ‘You think you’d do it again?’ And that’s the least of it. Nobody. They always say, I don’t know if you know. Lincoln was horribly treated. Uh, Jefferson was pretty horribly. Andrew Jackson they say was the worst of all, that he was treated worse than any other president. I said, ‘Do that study again, because I think there’s nobody close to Trump.’ I even got shot! And who the hell knows where that came from, right?".

There are no ideas.

I've been saying it for a while now and I find it incredible that there is so little talk about this. Trump's mental capacities are deteriorating quickly. He's always been a grifter and he's always had that rambling style of speaking. But this is simply incoherent. He also completely forgot he was talking about Harris. Apart from his crimes, apart from his aiding an insurrection, apart from him being in debt to foreign parties and governments, apart from him being grossly unqualified to do the job of president, he is now also losing his mind.

If you vote for Donald Trump, you're a fucking moron.

The great irony here, having lived in San Francisco from 1996-2018, is that Trump thinks San Francisco was great circa 2013 but has since gone to crap. Kamala Harris -- and I've long made my irritations about her known here -- left San Francisco in 2011 for Sacramento to focus on state (CA Atty Gen) and later federal government (Senate, VP).

This would be like blaming Marcello Lippi for the decline of Juventus and their relegation to Serie B.

It’s always funny when Trumpers use “Word Salad” to describe Harris’ speeches.

Boats and bombs and sharks and that good man, Hannibal Lecter. You can't even get an AI to come up with that.

There's always third parties to vote for. It's a way to have your "voice be heard" in some way at least. I wish more people did this.

Yes, we all know that politics requires mental damage to even participate in it. That's universal.

But as I've said about Russia, a certain kind of political culture produces a certain kind of leader for that culture. So you can get rid of Putin, but you can still be assured that whoever replaces him is capable of conniving and corrupting and strong-arming the same pathway that Putin followed to the presidency. It's a variation on the theme of "You get the government you deserve."

I have to ask the same questions about the U.S. What is it about the U.S. system that produces the outcomes at this level?

You might argue that the Trumptomanics née Tea Partiers may believe they're on a mission to reclaim the nation from corrupt elites on all sides to return power to the people. But given all the above, we all know absolute power corrupts absolutely. People idiotically believe that individuals matter more than the system. Stafford Beer famously coined "The purpose of a system is what it does". Individuals are just replaceable actors, as the system has an energy and strength of its own.

Sadly, the best defenses to such self-harm are the strength of instititions relative to the barbarians at the presidential ballot every four years and the clown shows they bring with them. And yet all the "Deep State" talk from them is merely "replace those guys with our guys", which essentially eviscerates the institutions and our trust in them further in continued decline.

Institutions need to stand up to partisanism, not recreate it. And if you throw the elite bums out and replace them with lawnmower repairman who drive a pickup with the right flag, you're kidding yourself at thinking running a government is just like running a McDonald's franchisee business.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

The great irony here, having lived in San Francisco from 1996-2018, is that Trump thinks San Francisco was great circa 2013 but has since gone to crap. Kamala Harris -- and I've long made my irritations about her known here -- left San Francisco in 2011 for Sacramento to focus on state (CA Atty Gen) and later federal government (Senate, VP).

This would be like blaming Marcello Lippi for the decline of Juventus and their relegation to Serie B.



Boats and bombs and sharks and that good man, Hannibal Lecter. You can't even get an AI to come up with that.



Yes, we all know that politics requires mental damage to even participate in it. That's universal.

But as I've said about Russia, a certain kind of political culture produces a certain kind of leader for that culture. So you can get rid of Putin, but you can still be assured that whoever replaces him is capable of conniving and corrupting and strong-arming the same pathway that Putin followed to the presidency. It's a variation on the theme of "You get the government you deserve."

I have to ask the same questions about the U.S. What is it about the U.S. system that produces the outcomes at this level?

You might argue that the Trumptomanics née Tea Partiers may believe they're on a mission to reclaim the nation from corrupt elites on all sides to return power to the people. But given all the above, we all know absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Sadly, the best defenses to such self-harm are the strength of instititions relative to the barbarians at the presidential ballot every four years and the clown shows they bring with them. And yet all the "Deep State" talk from them is merely "replace those guys with our guys", which essentially eviscerates the institutions further in continued decline.

Institutions need to stand up to partisanism, not recreate it. And if you throw the elite bums out and replace them with lawnmower repairman who drive a pickup with the right flag, you're kidding yourself at thinking running a government is just like running a McDonald's franchisee business.

Agreed. Nothing fundamentally will change unless changes to the electoral system are made, so the only way to really exercise influence within our framework is to vote for third parties that more closely align with what you want.

 

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Agreed. Nothing fundamentally will change unless changes to the electoral system are made, so the only way to really exercise influence within our framework is to vote for third parties that more closely align with what you want.

Odd, but true. I can think of a couple of solid independent runs in my lifetime. But the U.S. has to break its binary obsession with GOP vs Dems (and "non-binary" is a dirty word in some circles) and run new sustainable third and fourth parties. I don't know if it's time for the U.S. to follow European-style alliances for gaining sufficient votes (the horror!). But it's absolutely bonkers that it's been 112 years since a third party got 10% of the US presidential vote.

The way decision making happens in the US govt encourages binaries and nothing but.

 

[Ronn]

My favorite Trump speech was in 4th of July 2019 when he said US Army manned the airports during War of Independence.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Odd, but true. I can think of a couple of solid independent runs in my lifetime. But the U.S. has to break its binary obsession with GOP vs Dems (and "non-binary" is a dirty word in some circles) and run new sustainable third and fourth parties. I don't know if it's time for the U.S. to follow European-style alliances for gaining sufficient votes (the horror!). But it's absolutely bonkers that it's been 112 years since a third party got 10% of the US presidential vote.

The way decision making happens in the US govt encourages binaries and nothing but.

I'd love to see it, but I think it would be more effective to change the system rather than get politicians to actually make deals these days.

The electoral college makes it so that only a few states actually matter. Closed primaries on different dates assures it. Then no runoff or ranked choice system makes it so that people are afraid of voting for anyone other than one of the two to be labeled as a "spoiler." Our system is so stupid but we will do nothing to change it, this is the closest we have. I know you know this, but I'm just venting at this point.

About 40% of the country doesn't vote for the President, to not even put in the minimum amount of effort to vote for someone just because they won't win is asinine to me. I hate laziness.

 

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I'd love to see it, but I think it would be more effective to change the system rather than get politicians to actually make deals these days.

The electoral college makes it so that only a few states actually matter. Closed primaries on different dates assures it. Then no runoff or ranked choice system makes it so that people are afraid of voting for anyone other than one of the two to be labeled as a "spoiler." Our system is so stupid but we will do nothing to change it, this is the closest we have. I know you know this, but I'm just venting at this point.

About 40% of the country doesn't vote for the President, to not even put in the minimum amount of effort to vote for someone just because they won't win is asinine to me. I hate laziness.

You need to start having third party candidates at lower levels of governments.

 

[Bjerknes]

One of the biggest X Propagandists, Tim Pool, is allegedly involved with a Russian propaganda scam where he received millions from supposed Russian agents. Now he is playing the victim of course.

https://x.com/timcast/status/1831473189173731589?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg

This is a literal traitor and I hope he receives the death penalty. But they need to make sure they take off his stupid hat first.

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https://x.com/theomniliberal/status/1831442383000760393?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg

 

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[Seven]

It has to be said also that most people don't even actually like Harris, but compared to this...

And it's frustrating that our elections always have to be framed like that.

I find her voice grating and difficult to listen to. In interviews so far I think she tends to oversimplify or even avoids answering questions directly. But with Harris there is the notion that she is not just in it for herself. And not only that, she seems surrounded by a team of capable workers.

Trump, apart from all his character flaws, is going insane. And there's no one to correct him, because no one remotely capable still wants to work with him. And not just that, even his less than capable people from before don't want to work with him.

This choice is easy. And once Harris is in place, I sincerely hope the Republicans rebuild so the US can recover and have better candidates in the future.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I find her voice grating and difficult to listen to. In interviews so far I think she tends to oversimplify or even avoids answering questions directly. But with Harris there is the notion that she is not just in it for herself. And not only that, she seems surrounded by a team of capable workers.

Trump, apart from all his character flaws, is going insane. And there's no one to correct him, because no one remotely capable still wants to work with him. And not just that, even his less than capable people from before don't want to work with him.

This choice is easy. And once Harris is in place, I sincerely hope the Republicans rebuild so the US can recover and have better candidates in the future.

This is my big hope as well, but I doubt there's any sort of altruistic reason why Harris is running. Also I have to say, her Israel stance is obviously disgusting and I still think it might cost her.

 

[Seven]

This is my big hope as well, but I doubt there's any sort of altruistic reason why Harris is running. Also I have to say, her Israel stance is obviously disgusting and I still think it might cost her.

Not truly altruistic no.

But I think she's reasonable enough to understand that no single person knows everything and thus everyone requires help in being president of the US. Because she hasn't alienated people with expertise the way Trump has, it should be possible to build a decent team and actually, you know, govern.

Hopefully after losing this election the Republicans will realise that it might be better if they focus on policy that could actually benefit people, instead of lending their party to power hungry salesmen.

 

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[s4tch]

One of the biggest X Propagandists, Tim Pool, is allegedly involved with a Russian propaganda scam where he received millions from supposed Russian agents. Now he is playing the victim of course.

https://x.com/timcast/status/1831473189173731589?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg

This is a literal traitor and I hope he receives the death penalty.

even he'd agree lol

 

[Bjerknes]

even he'd agree lol

I'd even volunteer to flick the switch. He's a total shitbag and it would be my pleasure. Same thing for that fucking whore.

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https://x.com/coffeytimenews/status/1831685777639547329?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg

 

[Ronn]

Trump is very brave to have all these interviews presenting his vision to the nation:
No 2 consecutive sentences are related to each other.

 

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One of the biggest X Propagandists, Tim Pool, is allegedly involved with a Russian propaganda scam where he received millions from supposed Russian agents. Now he is playing the victim of course.

https://x.com/timcast/status/1831473189173731589?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg

This is a literal traitor and I hope he receives the death penalty. But they need to make sure they take off his stupid hat first.

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https://x.com/theomniliberal/status/1831442383000760393?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg

Lies, deep state had to step in and shut Tim down before the election because of what a kingmaker he is

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Do you get paid more the lamer the memes are?

 

[Brny44]

Any murican? I'll be in new york from 24.10 till 30.10...I would like to watch knicks in madison, rangers vs anaheim and if is it worth to watch college football at meatlife? Any ticket recommendation? Thank you

 

[Mokku]

"School shootings are a fact of life" - that dickhead who carrys Trump's ballsack after the recent shooting. Exactly what every parent wants to hear when grieving. Prick.

 

[Seven]

"School shootings are a fact of life" - that dickhead who carrys Trump's ballsack after the recent shooting. Exactly what every parent wants to hear when grieving. Prick.

It was a bad speech, but I feel that was taken out of context.

He said he hates that they are a fact of life, which doesn't sound as bad. It's still bad though, because mostly they're only a fact of life because they refuse to adopt normal gun laws.